Re: [time-nuts] Time security query

2009-08-26 Thread Javier Serrano
When something goes wrong in an accelerator, like an unsolicited beam dump, the timing system broadcasts a Post Mortem event (message) and lots of equipment push diagnostics data with time tags up to the Post Mortem system for analysis. These PLCs control things like Cryogenics, and other

[time-nuts] 58540A, anyone ?

2009-08-26 Thread Marco IK1ODO -2
Hi all, anyone here has an HP 54540A for sale? Answers to ik1...@spin-it.com 73 - Marco IK1ODO ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the

[time-nuts] Service manual / schematics HP 5334A`

2009-08-26 Thread Borislav Diviziev
Hello everyone, Can you, please, help me with finding a service manual and schematics of the HP counter 5334A. On the Agilent site I can find the 5334B but I know there are quite some differences between both. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks, bdivi-at-hotmail.com

[time-nuts] Tbolt temperature Control

2009-08-26 Thread WarrenS
TBolt Nuts To keep My TBolt's temperature constant so that the environment has minimal effect on it, I use an aquarium temperature controller (modified to have low hysteresis) connected to a low wattage light bulb, placed in a box with the TBolt. It works OK and keeps the TBolt's temperature

Re: [time-nuts] Tbolt temperature Control

2009-08-26 Thread Don Latham
Heck, Warren, I'll put it on the line :-). Use a very simple and cheap processor such as a Picaxe, pass the rs232 through it to Lady Heather etc, and capture the temperature, using it appropriately. Should work nicely and keeps the temp control local. Even put a little LED on it to indicate

Re: [time-nuts] Tbolt temperature Control

2009-08-26 Thread WarrenS
Note you do not have to pass anything thru or output any RS232, just the ONE bit if the micro is going to control the temp out bit. It just needs to pick up the Tbolt output data in parallel and capture the Temp info. If the micro is not doing the Temp control then there is no need to have the

Re: [time-nuts] Tbolt temperature Control

2009-08-26 Thread WarrenS
Another useful feature to add to a completely independent micro controller so that it needs no other inputs is to have its program smart enough to automatically and slowly readjust its set point control Temperature to just above the highest day to day Peak temp it sees. Needs no extra inputs,

Re: [time-nuts] Tbolt temperature Control

2009-08-26 Thread WarrenS
This can also be made to work on the TBolt units that have the 1/2 deg course Temp sensor. The control loop gets a bit trickier, but it can hold the Temp very close at one its course transitions points. This would come in handy for those not wanting to change their sensor to the high

[time-nuts] Couple of questions for Racal 1992 owners

2009-08-26 Thread John Green
Just acquired a used 1992 off eBay. Excellent, almost like new with manual and even spare fuses. I noticed that the internal reference's waveform is more like a nasty sawtooth than a nice sine wave. Is that normal? Also, when I hook my GPSDO through a two way splitter and two different length

[time-nuts] Tbolt temperature Control

2009-08-26 Thread Mark Sims
Putting the PID stuff into Lady Heather is no problem (if you write the algorithm). It would be pretty trivial to drop it into the DOS version. It would be best if a single control line would either heat or cool (no OFF state). Even simpler, keep the fan stirring the air all the time.

Re: [time-nuts] Tbolt temperature Control

2009-08-26 Thread Lux, Jim (337C)
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Mark Sims Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:35 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Tbolt temperature Control Putting the PID stuff into Lady Heather is no problem

Re: [time-nuts] Tbolt temperature Control

2009-08-26 Thread Scott Newell
At 03:34 PM 8/26/2009 , Mark Sims wrote: The problem is with the Windows code. I don't know how to reliably control the modem signals under Windows... perhaps John Miles would know. Most Windows users use USB- EscapeCommFunction()? ___ time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Tbolt temperature Control

2009-08-26 Thread Lux, Jim (337C)
I use the System.IO.Ports.SerialPort.RtsEnable property If you're doing input (e.g. looking for a 1pps), I would imagine you'd use the PinChangedEvent. I haven't tried it or looked at the timing. These exist in all .NET frameworks from 2.0 onwards. If you want to use the Windows API

Re: [time-nuts] Couple of questions for Racal 1992 owners

2009-08-26 Thread Ed Palmer
My 1992 has a similarly ugly reference output - until I terminate it. Then it's a fairly nice square wave between 0 and 1 volt. Rise fall times are in the range of 5 ns. The manual doesn't state what the wave shape is, only that it's 600 mVp-p into 50 ohms. I have a brochure that says TTL

Re: [time-nuts] Tbolt temperature Control

2009-08-26 Thread Neville Michie
Hi, your problem should be to adjust to physical reality, then you may be able to control you TBOLT temperature. I cannot remember the term in a PID equation that accounts for time delay. In fact there is not one! It is the wrong algorithm for controlling almost any heater! It is excellent

Re: [time-nuts] Tbolt temperature Control

2009-08-26 Thread WarrenS
Neville My responses to your well stated and mostly accurate 2c worth, even though much of it does not apply to this situation. I cannot remember the term in a PID equation that accounts for time delay. Yea, pretty hard to remember, It called Delay on Smith predictor type of PID. Sounds like