Re: [time-nuts] Possibly off topic - Jitter on Ethernet over poweradapters

2013-02-11 Thread Christopher Brown
Ahem! Ethernet over powerline! NOT PoE! The various forms of ether over power are (for practical purposes) a wireless ethernet protocol coupled into the AC wiring. And yes, it is noisy timing wise, for all the same reason that a simplex/shared variable rate 802.11 system is. On 2/10/13

Re: [time-nuts] Possibly off topic - Jitter on Ethernet over

2013-02-11 Thread Dan Kemppainen
On 2/11/2013 10:35 AM, time-nuts-requ...@febo.com wrote: It is unlikely to add much noise. The PoE device only puts a DC bias on the twisted pair. The data signal is differential. It is transformer couple to is pretty much is immune to common mode noise. So even iif the DC bias was noisy I

Re: [time-nuts] Possibly off topic - Jitter on Ethernet overpower adapters

2013-02-11 Thread David J Taylor
All, Strangely today the jitter numbers seem to be behaving themselves! Nothing has been done to the set up. Thanks to everyone for their comments. I'm looking at putting a direct Ethernet cable in here to see what the difference might make. Attached is a picture of latest NTP Monitor readout.

Re: [time-nuts] Possibly off topic - Jitter on Ethernet overpower adapters

2013-02-11 Thread Rob Kimberley
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of David J Taylor Sent: 11 February 2013 16:13 To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Possibly off topic - Jitter on Ethernet overpower adapters

Re: [time-nuts] Possibly off topic - Jitter on Ethernet over, power adapters

2013-02-11 Thread Joe Leikhim
I use a number of power line switches in my home environment. Primarily Insteon devices which are similar, but much improved version of the X-10 products. For powerline communications, the data bursts are timed with the zero-crossing point of the power line signal. This implies that some

Re: [time-nuts] FRK-L Rubidium

2013-02-11 Thread Garren Davis
Ed, Bob, This morning I noticed the crystal control voltage was down to 11 volts. I'll let it keep running to see if it drops any further. The tuning capacitor is adjusted out about as far as I want to set it. Any further and I think the adjustment screw will fall out. I did remove C11 as an

Re: [time-nuts] FRK-L Rubidium

2013-02-11 Thread Tom Miller
It is possible to open the can if you are careful. A good vacuum desoldering tool is a good start to remove as much of the solder as possible. Then one would peal the can open a bit at a time. Then you need to find out where the failure is. But to answer your question, yes just buy one, it's

[time-nuts] lightweight webserver for, e.g., NTP widget

2013-02-11 Thread Jim Lux
I'm intrigued by the possibility of using a lightweight web server to provide a management/user interface to test equipment or appliances (e.g. like the NTP server recently discussed, or a box with mixers and counters). I've built some web interfaces to very small things using Arduinos and

Re: [time-nuts] lightweight webserver for, e.g., NTP widget

2013-02-11 Thread David Armstrong
There are numberous web servers that are small and light weight, some examples are boa ( www.boa.org ) and HTTPd http://www.nongnu.org/mini-httpd/ On Mon, 2013-02-11 at 14:01 -0800, Jim Lux wrote: I'm intrigued by the possibility of using a lightweight web server to provide a management/user

Re: [time-nuts] lightweight webserver for, e.g., NTP widget

2013-02-11 Thread Bill Roy
If you just want to static-serve the assets in a particular folder, and have python available, there's always: python -m SimpleHTTPServer …which serves the current directory on localhost:8080. But no PHP. For a modern approach you might look at building a small server based on

Re: [time-nuts] lightweight webserver for, e.g., NTP widget

2013-02-11 Thread Joseph Gray
I used thttpd many years ago. It is tiny and fast. There are others. Joe Gray W5JG On Feb 11, 2013 3:01 PM, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: I'm intrigued by the possibility of using a lightweight web server to provide a management/user interface to test equipment or appliances (e.g. like

[time-nuts] altinex switches

2013-02-11 Thread Don Latham
I bought a couple of 180986059633 switches. The manual is at: http://pdf.textfiles.com/manuals/STARINMANUALS/Altinex/Manual/Archive/Home%20Run%20(HR)%20Series.pdf You get 8 inputs switchable to 12 outputs IN ANY COMBO. meaning it can be a 12 output distribution amp. isolation amps all round, and

Re: [time-nuts] altinex switches

2013-02-11 Thread J. L. Trantham
Looks like 75 ohms if I understand the manual correctly. Joe -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Don Latham Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 8:00 PM To: time nuts Subject: [time-nuts] altinex switches I bought a couple of

[time-nuts] altinex switches

2013-02-11 Thread Arthur Dent
I just bought the last one at 11:30PM. -Arthur ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] lightweight webserver for, e.g., NTP widget

2013-02-11 Thread David J Taylor
From: Jim Lux [] Is there something that runs under Linux on a lightweight single board PC (Raspberry pi or Intel Mini-ITX Atom mobos) that isn't too much of a pain, and doesn't require you to be a full time web server administrator to make it work?

Re: [time-nuts] lightweight webserver for, e.g., NTP widget

2013-02-11 Thread Chris Albertson
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:04 PM, David J Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Anything which works on the Raspberry Pi must be fairly lightweight! G I don't think that basic Apache would be too much to manage, and many folk have used it: I have to agree with the above. Many people