[time-nuts] CW12-TIM

2014-07-12 Thread Shane Morris
Hello Time Nuts (and Time Lords!), This is my first real post here, and I understand fully, I am but a grasshopper when it comes to some of the messages I have seen on the list. I am needing a GPS source of precise time, in three flavours - 10MHz (or so), 1PPS, and ethernet NTP. In the

Re: [time-nuts] CW12-TIM

2014-07-12 Thread David J Taylor
Hello Time Nuts (and Time Lords!), This is my first real post here, and I understand fully, I am but a grasshopper when it comes to some of the messages I have seen on the list. I am needing a GPS source of precise time, in three flavours - 10MHz (or so), 1PPS, and ethernet NTP. In the

Re: [time-nuts] CW12-TIM

2014-07-12 Thread Hal Murray
edgecombe...@gmail.com said: I am needing a GPS source of precise time, in three flavours - 10MHz (or so), 1PPS, and ethernet NTP. In the beginning, the NTP will be most important, and as time goes on, I'll need the 1PPS signal. ... If a static CW12-TIM ethernet clock could be made, I would

Re: [time-nuts] CW12-TIM

2014-07-12 Thread Shane Morris
Hal, As much as I'd like to explain the big picture in list, it would make God awful noise - if you wish to know any details, I encourage you to respond to me off list. Given the fact that the robotics is so totally off topic, I'm not willing to discuss them here. Thats only out of respect to the

Re: [time-nuts] CW12-TIM

2014-07-12 Thread Jason Rabel
I am needing a GPS source of precise time, in three flavours - 10MHz (or so), 1PPS, and ethernet NTP. In the beginning, the NTP will be most important, and as time goes on, I'll need the 1PPS signal. I know DIY is always lots of fun, but if you want to get up and running quick with little to

Re: [time-nuts] CW12-TIM

2014-07-12 Thread Graham Haddock
Shane: The question I think that is being asked is ... What does precise mean to you? To the nearest order of magnitude, what kind of accuracy are you looking for on your three signals. This defines the kind of system you will need. This group normally aspires to the more accurate end of the

Re: [time-nuts] CW12-TIM

2014-07-12 Thread SAIDJACK
Graham, I think that is the real challenge here: most folks don't know what precise means for them. Timing is such a novel technology that most folks are amazed that we are trying to get parts per trillion (or better) accuracy and stability! We get customers all the time that want very

Re: [time-nuts] CW12-TIM

2014-07-12 Thread Magnus Danielson
Said, ... and deprive us from cheap surplus oscillators of good performance? What where you thinking? :) But I agree fully with your point, people don't understand how their poorly speced requirements translate into cost and design-time. Accurate time to the fs for no budget is what you can

[time-nuts] Setting Windows XP clock.

2014-07-12 Thread Max Robinson
As some of you no doubt know microshaft has stopped supporting windows XP. As part of this they have ceased to correct windows XP clocks. This seams rather small of them as it can't possibly be any inconvenience to them to continue to provide this service. I have a program on my old 98 box

Re: [time-nuts] Setting Windows XP clock.

2014-07-12 Thread Bob Stewart
Have you looked into NTP for Windows? Bob From: Max Robinson m...@maxsmusicplace.com To: Time Nuts time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 6:29 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Setting Windows XP clock. As some of you no doubt know microshaft has stopped

Re: [time-nuts] Setting Windows XP clock.

2014-07-12 Thread Don Latham
I use nmeatime, you can set from the net or from a gps plugged in to the computer. Have used it on all my computers for many moons. http://www.visualgps.net/nmeatime/ Don Max Robinson As some of you no doubt know microshaft has stopped supporting windows XP. As part of this they have ceased to

Re: [time-nuts] Setting Windows XP clock.

2014-07-12 Thread Ed Palmer
You don't need an app. 1. Right click on the time display in the task bar. 2. Select 'Adjust Date/Time'. 3. Click on the 'Internet Time' tab. 4. Type in any server you want. I suggest 'us.pool.ntp.org'. This gives you access to a pool of servers so that if one is down or wrong, the next one

Re: [time-nuts] Setting Windows XP clock.

2014-07-12 Thread Max Robinson
This is what I was looking for. On this computer I only need accuracy within a few seconds. Thank you to all who suggested alternatives. Regards. Max. K 4 O DS. - Original Message - From: Ed Palmer ed_pal...@sasktel.net To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement

Re: [time-nuts] Setting Windows XP clock.

2014-07-12 Thread Dave M
Max, In the Control Panel, click on Date Time. In the date Time Properties window, click the Internet Time tab. Make sure the Automatically synchronize with an Internet time server box is checked. In the Server: box, copy the following server name and paste it into the Server box:

Re: [time-nuts] Setting Windows XP clock.

2014-07-12 Thread Chris Albertson
What did Microsoft actually do? Possibly Windows XP was set by default to use some time servers at Microsoft and those servers were shut down. If so all you need to do is change the configuration file to use public Pool servers. But is this what happened? Did Microsoft actually have NTP

Re: [time-nuts] Setting Windows XP clock.

2014-07-12 Thread DaveH
Hi Max You do not want to have your XP box connected to the internet at all. This is not something that can be dealt with by any anti-virus software you are running. There are parts of XP that can be exploited by an outside hacker. Software can be installed and run on your system without your

Re: [time-nuts] Setting Windows XP clock.

2014-07-12 Thread Dale H. Cook
At 07:29 PM 7/12/2014, Max Robinson wrote: Does anyone know of a program I can download that will do the same for my XP box. For years I have used a program from the National Institute of Standards and Technology, NISTime: http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/its.cfm You can run it manually

Re: [time-nuts] Setting Windows XP clock.

2014-07-12 Thread John Allen
Hi Max - try Dimension 4, www.thinkman.com/dimension4/ In a large number of situations, XP's time sync does not work. Dimension 4 works. Dave - With all due respect, there is no problem running Windows XP provided that you have a good antivirus such as Avast www.avast.com (Free version). The

Re: [time-nuts] CW12-TIM

2014-07-12 Thread Shane Morris
Graham, Yeah, I suppose I'm not aspiring to the most precise of the measurements, I want something that'll give me a reasonable accuracy on a budget. Inside the RaspberryPi is a free running 1MHz oscillator - if I could train it with a 1PPS to a good degree of accuracy (say 10ns to 100ns or so)

Re: [time-nuts] CW12-TIM

2014-07-12 Thread Shane Morris
Said, good measure! Put it into dollars! This helps! Let me have a think about my budget... On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Shane Morris edgecombe...@gmail.com wrote: Graham, Yeah, I suppose I'm not aspiring to the most precise of the measurements, I want something that'll give me a

Re: [time-nuts] Setting Windows XP clock.

2014-07-12 Thread Chris Albertson
For years I have used a program from the National Institute of Standards and Technology, NISTime: http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/its.cfm This quote from a highlighted section on the above page: ...users are strongly encouraged to switch to the Network Time Protocol (NTP), which is more

Re: [time-nuts] Setting Windows XP clock - XP Security

2014-07-12 Thread DaveH
Hi John Both applications are excellent choices. Malwarebytes also offers a great free system scanner that will detect rooted malware (this is the stuff that runs without your knowing it is there). It has to be run manually but it is excellent. There is a lot going on behind the scenes besides

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB remod instant cheap clock receiver

2014-07-12 Thread Paul Davis
Paul - You over paid ;) Neither one is going to break the bank, but I found the Westclox Model 72006 'Atomic LCD Alarm Clock' $10.97 at Walmart. Similar module inside. Paul On Jul 11, 2014, at 12:55 PM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote: Intended to add the model number. Cosco only has

Re: [time-nuts] Setting Windows XP clock.

2014-07-12 Thread David J Taylor
As some of you no doubt know microshaft has stopped supporting windows XP. As part of this they have ceased to correct windows XP clocks. This seams rather small of them as it can't possibly be any inconvenience to them to continue to provide this service. I have a program on my old 98 box