Re: [time-nuts] DDS on AD9852

2015-01-17 Thread Bill Byrom
I'm new to this list, so please forgive me if I am missing some older information not in your post. I also believe you are overdriving the amplifier, but the oscilloscope display scaling is confusing us. Several things stand out at me from your message: * The AD9858 has a current-mode D/A

Re: [time-nuts] DDS on AD9852

2015-01-17 Thread paul swed
The DDS puts out perhaps a volt far to large for a preamp device. I suspect like everyone else you are clipping. Just take a 2n3904 use it as a common collector/buffer and bias the emitter for a clean cycle and see what level you get. Regrads Paul WB8TSL On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 2:51 AM, Tom

Re: [time-nuts] DDS on AD9852

2015-01-17 Thread d0ct0r
Hello, That Q1 is MAV1-0104 made by Mini-Circuits. This part is exact replacement for the MSA-0104, which was in TenTec kits early. The schematic of that pre-amp is pretty simple: +12 V | [ ] (470 Ohm)

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency doubler 5/10 and distribution amplifier for Lucent KS-24361

2015-01-17 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Based on the phase noise on the 15 MHz output, I would *guess* that the 5 MHz OCXO has a floor in the vicinity of -160 dbc / Hz. That would be correct per the MTI spec sheet. It also would make sense based on your phase noise plots. Close in ( around 200 Hz) your multiplier and amp are

Re: [time-nuts] DDS on AD9852

2015-01-17 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The amp you are using has about 18.5 db of gain. It’s a typical self biased transistor style amp. From the part number, it’s got a ~ 1.5 dbm output limit at 1 db compression. That gives you a max input level of -17 dbm when the amp is in compression. If you want reasonable noise

Re: [time-nuts] question Alan deviation measured with Timelab and counters

2015-01-17 Thread Magnus Danielson
Bonsoir Stéphane, (For Stéphane's unedited reply, look in the Current state thread) On 01/17/2015 12:36 AM, Stéphane Rey wrote: Hi, I've took the time to read carefully your long and detailed message Magnus and this was very interesting. I've learned many things that have enabled me to

Re: [time-nuts] DDS on AD9852

2015-01-17 Thread wb6bnq
Hi, I am not clear about the little sawtooth riding on the signal, but it looks like you are running out of headroom on the Ten-Tec preamp. The Ten-Tec preamp would not be my first choice for the job. One of the Minicircuits MMIC's would probably be a better choice depending upon your

Re: [time-nuts] DDS on AD9852

2015-01-17 Thread Tom Miller
- Original Message - From: d0ct0r t...@patoka.org To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 12:02 AM Subject: [time-nuts] DDS on AD9852 Hello, I would like to ask some advise about the signal distortion I get

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency doubler 5/10 and distribution amplifier for Lucent KS-24361

2015-01-17 Thread Gerhard Hoffmann
Am 03.01.2015 um 02:43 schrieb Gerhard Hoffmann: over the Christmas season, I have designed and built a frequency doubler from 5 to 10 MHz and a distribution amplifier for the Lucent KS-24361. A preliminary writeup is under http://www.hoffmann-hochfrequenz.de/downloads/DoubDist.pdf I