[time-nuts] Z3801A expert?

2015-09-24 Thread Ben Hall
Hey guys, I suspect we may have a Z3801A expert on the list. A couple of nights ago, we had a power failure. GPSCON says that my Z3801A has failed self-test, but everything else looks fine: Self Test: Err Int Pwr: OK Oven Pwr: OK OCXO: OK EFC: OK GPS Rcv: OK The whole screen can be see

Re: [time-nuts] algorithms and hardware for comparing clock pulses

2015-09-24 Thread Bill Hawkins
Perhaps I can do this in words, as I have no schematic software. Start with the input to your favorite microprocessor's A/D converter. Connect it to a suitable (more later) capacitor to analog ground. Connect a cmos switch across the cap and call it S2. When S2 is on, it discharges the cap. Now b

Re: [time-nuts] Z380XA The saga of the aging 10811

2015-09-24 Thread Attila Kinali
On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 23:49:25 -0400 "Bob Benward" wrote: > Continuing this discussion, I have included a PDF showing the past 30days of > EFC. Amazingly, the drift has reversed direction! Anyone have any insights > into this behavior? Each data point represents 10 seconds. Vig and Meeker have

[time-nuts] Value of parts for the RC network of "GPSDO with 1ns res TIC"

2015-09-24 Thread Can Altineller
Hello, I got some 4046 plls and I decided to implement the schematic given on: https://www.febo.com/pipermail/time-nuts/attachments/20140211/8bdbc232/attachment-0004.jpg in the drawing phase comparator 3 output is connected to a diode, which then is fed to a network, and then read from an adc. I

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 134, Issue 23

2015-09-24 Thread Bob Benward
Hi Dan, I would love to see your data. 3E-12 is very impressive (I assume an inferred drift from the EFC counts?). I am really surprised at the oscillator turn around, nothing changed in my house or in the setup, so I was surprised to see the sudden dip. At first I thought the oscillator was agi

[time-nuts] Symmetricom experts?

2015-09-24 Thread G1FEF
Do we have any Symmetricom experts on this list? I've had a Symmetricom Syncserver S200 GPS+PPS with rubidium clock running for several years until we had a power cut and the UPS battery failed, on powering back up it won't boot at all. I suspect the flash is corrupt but they protect it in some

Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A expert?

2015-09-24 Thread Hal Murray
kd5...@gmail.com said: > When I command a self test via *TST? command, it returns 0, which is no > error. It runs all the tests again and didn't find any errors, but it remembers that it has seen an error sometime recently that hasn't been cleared. > Not sure why GPSCON is reporting a self test

Re: [time-nuts] Symmetricom experts?

2015-09-24 Thread Mike Cook
Hi Chrs, Not an expert… but usually computer systems give some indication of why a boot is failing on the systems console. The S200 is probably a unix based system as it has utilities such as SSH. TELNET. HTTP. So you could try connecting an RS232 terminal , or telnet’ing to its console server

Re: [time-nuts] algorithms and hardware for comparing clock pulses

2015-09-24 Thread Alex Pummer
the role of the diode is just to have a voltage drop? 73 KJ6UHN Alex On 9/23/2015 11:31 PM, Bill Hawkins wrote: Perhaps I can do this in words, as I have no schematic software. Start with the input to your favorite microprocessor's A/D converter. Connect it to a suitable (more later) capacitor

Re: [time-nuts] teensy as time capture device

2015-09-24 Thread Jim Lux
On 9/23/15 10:08 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message <5602f65b.6050...@earthlink.net>, Jim Lux writes: I've got a teensy3.1 hooked up to a 33120 function generator (not exactly a super stable device) and generating period data for a 1 Hz square wave. That is actually a particular

Re: [time-nuts] first teensy3.1 data

2015-09-24 Thread Jim Lux
On 9/23/15 2:50 PM, Magnus Danielson wrote: Jim, There is some systematic bumps in there which make me wonder what happens here. Care to share data/plots for phase? Sure.. This is just the part sitting on my desk with the source hooked up with clip leads. The run is very short (5-10 minutes)

Re: [time-nuts] algorithms and hardware for comparing clock pulses

2015-09-24 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Simple approach: Use a pair of tri-state buffers. Both have their outputs hooked to the cap through resistors. One (call it A) has its signal input grounded. The other (call it B) has its signal input tied high. Both of the tri-state controls normal sit in the “off” (= output is tri-state)

Re: [time-nuts] Symmetricom experts?

2015-09-24 Thread Anders Wallin
FWIW our SyncServer S250 has a PSU with an electrolytic cap that has failed at least twice over the years: http://www.anderswallin.net/2015/08/psu-electrolytic-cap-fix/ Anders On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:21 AM, G1FEF wrote: > Do we have any Symmetricom experts on this list? > > I've had a Symmet

Re: [time-nuts] teensy as time capture device

2015-09-24 Thread cfo
On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 05:30:35 -0700, Jim Lux wrote: > > What would be interesting is if there's a pin on the Arduino/Teensy that > you could feed a high quality oscillator to, and then do counting with > that. The K20 microcontroller has a mindbendingly large number of > features and alternate p

Re: [time-nuts] Value of parts for the RC network of "GPSDO with 1ns res TIC"

2015-09-24 Thread Jim Harman
On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Jim Harman wrote: > The diode prevents it from being discharged by the LS4046. Sorry, I meant HC4046. -- --Jim Harman ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi

Re: [time-nuts] Value of parts for the RC network of "GPSDO with 1ns res TIC"

2015-09-24 Thread Jim Harman
Diode at HC4046 output pin 15 is 1N5711 (Schottky signal diode) This is in series with 3900 ohm resistor. Cap to ground is 1nf NPO ceramic Resistor across the cap is 1 M These values are suitable for the Arduino Uno (ATmega 328 processor) with the analogReference set to INTERNAL. This gives the AD

Re: [time-nuts] Symmetricom experts?

2015-09-24 Thread Brian M
S200s definitely shared the PSU issue. A rep from Symmetricom/MicroSemi told me that the custom manufacturer had used a part which was not spec'd properly (betting it was a cap). I'd be surprised if the flash is corrupt. There's two compact flash cards, each with a copy of the OS. Updates go to th

Re: [time-nuts] Symmetricom experts?

2015-09-24 Thread Wojciech Owczarek
Hi Chris, This is a Linux box - an x86 box in fact. As far as I remember they even have VGA pin headers on the board inside. Boot it up with the serial console active and see if you get anything meaningful, but I doubt it. I opened one up for the same purpose last year but I don't have it to hand

Re: [time-nuts] Symmetricom experts?

2015-09-24 Thread Bob Darlington
I've had the same problem with an S300 so I gave up and started working on a replacement. Eventually I'll get everything documented and offered to the group, but far I've built a custom sheild for a BeagleBone Black with a Furuno GT-8736 timing receiver, and it looks great so long as it's doing no

Re: [time-nuts] teensy as time capture device

2015-09-24 Thread Hal Murray
xne...@luna.dyndns.dk said: > External Oscillator (the system clock clock) , or External Timer clock > (limited to system clock/4) That sounds like they are running the external signal through a synchronizer and then doing all the logic on the system clock. That would add a lot of high frequ

Re: [time-nuts] wwvb gps d-psk-r details 500KB

2015-09-24 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
This is profoundly cool, Paul! Thanks so much for this work. I'm not making any promises, but I hope to lay out a PCB for the DBM section and will make the gerbers available. If there's enough interest, we might be able to do a group PCB order. Contact me off-line about that. John On 9/2

Re: [time-nuts] teensy as time capture device

2015-09-24 Thread Jim Lux
On 9/24/15 7:13 AM, cfo wrote: On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 05:30:35 -0700, Jim Lux wrote: What would be interesting is if there's a pin on the Arduino/Teensy that you could feed a high quality oscillator to, and then do counting with that. The K20 microcontroller has a mindbendingly large number of

[time-nuts] Symmetricom 8130A Software

2015-09-24 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
In a 2005 White Paper singing the praises of "their", actually ex Datum, 8130A rubidium module, Symmetricom mentioned a small RS232 utility they referred to as 8130Comm. However, it isn't mentioned in the 8130A manual and I can't find anything else about it either online or within my own Sy

Re: [time-nuts] teensy as time capture device

2015-09-24 Thread Chris Caudle
On Thu, September 24, 2015 7:30 am, Jim Lux wrote: > What would be interesting is if there's a pin on the Arduino/Teensy that > you could feed a high quality oscillator to, and then do counting with > that. The K20 microcontroller has a mindbendingly large number of > features and alternate pin fu