[time-nuts] HP-3336A Level Generator manual

2007-07-16 Thread S McNamara
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] G'Day Nigel, I have a paper copy of the manual, which bit of the circuit diagram do you require. (I cannot scan the whole manual at this stage but a couple of pages is possible) Regards Scott

Re: [time-nuts] HP-3336A Level Generator manual

2007-07-16 Thread GandalfG8
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 16/07/2007 08:53:58 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: G'Day Nigel, I have a paper copy of the manual, which bit of the circuit diagram do you require. (I cannot scan the whole manual at this

[time-nuts] Cs stability

2007-07-16 Thread Pablo Alvarez Sanchez
Hi, I am curious about the total stability of Cs clocks. Normally producers give you an initial accuracy after 30 minutes of power on and a table with the Allan deviation for different measurement intervals. After that they give you the environmental and physical specifications. For the

Re: [time-nuts] Cs stability

2007-07-16 Thread SAIDJACK
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 7/16/2007 10:05:51 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My questions are: Are the Allan deviation specs also valid for all the environmental range, including shock and vibration, or only for lab

[time-nuts] HP-3336A Manual

2007-07-16 Thread Tom Clifton
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I perused the pdf manual and came up more confused than when I started... My problem seems to be in the Option 005 high precision attenuator (as I can best tell). There is an aluminum box between the circuit board and the front

Re: [time-nuts] Cs stability

2007-07-16 Thread Dr Bruce Griffiths
Pablo Alvarez Sanchez wrote: ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I am curious about the total stability of Cs clocks. Normally producers give you an initial accuracy after 30 minutes of power on and a table with the Allan deviation for different

Re: [time-nuts] HP-3336A Manual

2007-07-16 Thread Greg Burnett
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom, I was last involved with a 3336A about 12 years ago, so I hope I can still remember the correct situation (but no guarantee). As I remember it, there are some relays in that aluminum box between the circuit board and the front

[time-nuts] 5370A jitter - What to look for

2007-07-16 Thread Bill Janssen
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I need to fix my HP 5370A jitter to reduce it to something reasonable. It is now about 3 nano seconds and is partially periodic. It is not totally random If I plot the data (using plotter) I see what looks like two oscillators

Re: [time-nuts] 5370A jitter - What to look for

2007-07-16 Thread Magnus Danielson
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bill Janssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [time-nuts] 5370A jitter - What to look for Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:30:12 -0700 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Bill, I need to fix my HP 5370A jitter to reduce it to something

Re: [time-nuts] Cs stability

2007-07-16 Thread Tom Van Baak
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] After that they give you the environmental and physical specifications. For the hp5071 you have: ... Are the Allan deviation specs also valid for all the environmental range, including shock and vibration, or only for lab

Re: [time-nuts] Cs stability

2007-07-16 Thread Tom Van Baak
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For example tilting the Cs unit by 90 degrees will typically give an error of about 1E-09 or so. Have you tried this with your FTS 4050? Anyone else do this with a 4060 or hp 5061? /tvb

Re: [time-nuts] Cs stability

2007-07-16 Thread Dr Bruce Griffiths
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom Van Baak wrote: The given specs are conservative (in typical HP style) but I would guess the best ADEV numbers are only for laboratory conditions. Someone from Agilent/Symmetricom might want to comment on this. In the

Re: [time-nuts] Cs stability

2007-07-16 Thread Jack Hudler
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Who was it that said; every clock is a thermometer? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dr Bruce Griffiths Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 8:31 PM To: Tom Van Baak; Discussion of

Re: [time-nuts] Cs stability

2007-07-16 Thread Chuck Harris
Tom Van Baak wrote: ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For example tilting the Cs unit by 90 degrees will typically give an error of about 1E-09 or so. Have you tried this with your FTS 4050? Anyone else do this with a 4060 or hp 5061? I'm pretty sure that

Re: [time-nuts] Cs stability

2007-07-16 Thread Tom Van Baak
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Who was it that said; every clock is a thermometer? Even a short length of coax is a thermometer if you look close enough. See the 50 fs / °C tempco at test #6: http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/tadd-1/ /tvb

Re: [time-nuts] Cs stability

2007-07-16 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: Chuck Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Cs stability Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:55:26 -0400 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom Van Baak wrote: ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL

Re: [time-nuts] Cs stability

2007-07-16 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: Tom Van Baak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Cs stability Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:47:10 -0700 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Who was it that said; every clock is a thermometer? Even a short length of coax

Re: [time-nuts] Cs stability

2007-07-16 Thread Magnus Danielson
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Cs stability Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 01:13:58 EDT Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi guys, Hi Said, I did tilt my 4050 when I first installed the unit, that number is from my