Re: [time-nuts] OT: AC voltage standard

2007-11-06 Thread Didier Juges
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY I suggest you use a CMOS multiplexer driven by a clock and a flip-flop (to guarantee 50% duty cycle) to switch the Weston cell's output voltage on and off at 50% ratio. Knowing the ON resistance of the CMOS multiplexer will

[time-nuts] OT: AC voltage standard

2007-11-06 Thread Joe McElvenney
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hi, Excuse the topic but is does push the same buttons as it were. After calibrating my old HP54502A 6-bit digitizing scope I'm left with an error I can't quite believe and so am trying to determine which of my instruments is

[time-nuts] October MVUS Frequency Measuring Test Results

2007-11-06 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY The results of the first MVUS Frequency Measuring Test are now available at http://www.febo.com/pages/mvus-fmt/index.html (click on October 2007 Results). There are also pages at that URL describing how we generated and

Re: [time-nuts] OT: AC voltage standard

2007-11-06 Thread Bruce Griffiths
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Joe McElvenney wrote: Hi, Excuse the topic but is does push the same buttons as it were. After calibrating my old HP54502A 6-bit digitizing scope I'm left with an error I can't quite believe and so am trying to determine

Re: [time-nuts] WinOncore

2007-11-06 Thread ernieperes
Hi Tom, I have a few ONCORE docs but need the correct P/N in order to determine the type of your board Question for what purpose do you like to use it? Best regards, Ernie. -Original Message- From: Tom Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent:

Re: [time-nuts] WinOncore

2007-11-06 Thread GandalfG8
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hi Tom I have WinOncore12 and will send you a copy direct. Easily may not be the best description as it defaults to not displaying data after a test, and some other commands, but should be basically ok. TAC32 is much

[time-nuts] WinOncore

2007-11-06 Thread Tom Clifton
I just received an older 8 channel Oncore GPS board - still not sure if it is a timing or navigation part... In any event, I have found plenty of documentation on it, but so far none of the links for the Motorola eval software WinOncore (presumably free) seem to be functional. Can someone help me

Re: [time-nuts] OT: AC voltage standard

2007-11-06 Thread Neon John
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:57:27 +, Joe McElvenney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know of a simple way of producing an AC voltage standard suitable for general workshop use without reference to another one? About one percent

Re: [time-nuts] WinOncore

2007-11-06 Thread Art Sepin
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Tom, WinOncore12 software is available directly from our website: http://www.synergy-gps.com/content/view/33/90/ Regards, Art Sepin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

[time-nuts] 5065A cell flooding Typo!

2007-11-06 Thread corby d dawson
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Bill, OOOPs, Yes it was a typo! 5VDC and 5 ohm 10Watt is correct. Thanks for correcting me, I hope everone will see the correction! Best Regards, Corby ___ time-nuts mailing

Re: [time-nuts] OT: AC voltage standard

2007-11-06 Thread Brooke Clarke
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hi John: How does it compare to the Linear LTZ1000? Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com http://www.precisionclock.com http://www.prc68.com/I/WebCam2.shtml 24/7 Sky-Weather-Astronomy Cam Neon John wrote: );

Re: [time-nuts] OT: AC voltage standard

2007-11-06 Thread WB6BNQ
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY To All, Let me repeat what John De Armond stated. It is most important. A standard cell, whether saturated or unsaturated, cannot be loaded under any circumstances. Any current draw will upset the cell chemistry and cause

Re: [time-nuts] OT: AC voltage standard

2007-11-06 Thread Didier Juges
The problem with a mercury relay is that the switching delay is significant and not well controlled, so the duty cycle of the resulting waveform is not well controlled, and so would be the RMS value. I believe CMOS analog switches would provide better control, and with series resistance that

Re: [time-nuts] OT: AC voltage standard

2007-11-06 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Didier Juges wrote: The problem with a mercury relay is that the switching delay is significant and not well controlled, so the duty cycle of the resulting waveform is not well controlled, and so would be the RMS value. I believe CMOS analog switches would provide better control, and with

Re: [time-nuts] OT: AC voltage standard

2007-11-06 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Didier Juges wrote: The problem with a mercury relay is that the switching delay is significant and not well controlled, so the duty cycle of the resulting waveform is not well controlled, and so would be the RMS value. I believe CMOS analog switches would provide better control, and with

Re: [time-nuts] OT: AC voltage standard

2007-11-06 Thread Hal Murray
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Anyone know of a simple way of producing an AC voltage standard suitable for general workshop use without reference to another one? About one percent would be good enough, wave shape and frequency accuracy not important

Re: [time-nuts] OT: AC voltage standard

2007-11-06 Thread Neon John
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 13:52:13 -0500, Didier Juges [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem with a mercury relay is that the switching delay is significant and not well controlled, so the duty cycle of the resulting waveform is not

Re: [time-nuts] OT: AC voltage standard

2007-11-06 Thread Didier Juges
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY I thought the question was: Anyone know of a simple way of producing an AC voltage standard suitable for general workshop use without reference to another one? About one percent would be good enough, wave shape and

Re: [time-nuts] Fury Interface Board: 5MHz needed?

2007-11-06 Thread Peter Schmelcher
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 10:24:59 -0500 From: xaos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Fury Interface Board: 5MHz needed? To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Message-ID:

Re: [time-nuts] OT: AC voltage standard

2007-11-06 Thread Bill Hawkins
Nice catch, John. A solution provider would do well to understand the problem before presenting the solution. The first paragraph of this morning's 5:52 AM (UTC-6) posting outlined the problem. A 1% solution will satisfy a 6 bit calibration. The reading is likely to be Average, not RMS, so the

Re: [time-nuts] OT: AC voltage standard

2007-11-06 Thread Neon John
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 17:41:21 -0500, Didier Juges [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was no reference to a 6 bit scope. First paragraph of the original post: Joe McElvenney wrote: Hi, Excuse the topic but is does push the

Re: [time-nuts] Fury Interface Board: 5MHz needed?

2007-11-06 Thread SAIDJACK
In a message dated 11/6/2007 16:29:16 Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: George for a single ground pin OXCO you might want to consider compensating for the oven's internal ground bounce. The voltage drop caused by a normal heater current is around 1/4 to 1/2mV for an MTI

[time-nuts] OT: AC voltage standard, a practical implementation

2007-11-06 Thread Didier Juges
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Well, it may not qualify as a standard, but I made a small synthesized signal generator tonight using a Silabs Toolstick. It can be calibrated with a DC voltmeter (how about that!), I would assume most anyone on this list has