[time-nuts] Question on HP5359 Time Synthesizer

2008-06-23 Thread Ulrich Bangert
Gentlemen, some time ago I had the possibility to buy a surplus HP5359 Time Synthesizer. As far as I can judge from my measurements with a HP5370 and a SR620 the two delays that are generated inside the box with high precision are ok and completely within the specs, which is the most important

[time-nuts] Thunderbolt meets ntpd

2008-06-23 Thread Hal Murray
Does anybody have their Thunderbolt working directly with ntpd? The documentation for ntpd says the Palisade driver has been updated to work with the Thunderbolt. It has a config option (mode 2) to use 8N1 and a few other changes. I haven't looked carefully at the code. I'm pretty sure my

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt meets ntpd

2008-06-23 Thread Harlan Stenn
I think Fer is still an active maintainer on the tbolt work he did... -- Harlan Stenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ntpforum.isc.org - be a member! ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt meets ntpd

2008-06-23 Thread Chris Kuethe
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 11:30 PM, Hal Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody have any Linux code to print the stuff it's sending? If not, I'll probably have something soon. 1) dig around on trimble.com - there's a link to iQSource.zip which may be useful 2) rip some code from gpsd - we

Re: [time-nuts] Question on HP5359 Time Synthesizer

2008-06-23 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ulrich Bangert writes: There is however one annoying fact: If I use the instrument in frequency or period mode, [...] the frequency of the repetitive waveform will change and drift by an amount of some 100 Hz up to a few kHz so that my counter may read 996 kHz after

Re: [time-nuts] Question on HP5359 Time Synthesizer

2008-06-23 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Ulrich Bangert wrote: Gentlemen, some time ago I had the possibility to buy a surplus HP5359 Time Synthesizer. As far as I can judge from my measurements with a HP5370 and a SR620 the two delays that are generated inside the box with high precision are ok and completely within the specs,

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3801A Motorola Oncore VP receiver...

2008-06-23 Thread Peter Vince
I have bought a number of different items from that seller (fluke.I), and have found him very friendly, helpful, and trustworthy. See my previous message about contact phone numbers - let him have it - it's in your own interest. Regards, Peter Vince (G8ZZR, London,

Re: [time-nuts] Question on HP5359 Time Synthesizer

2008-06-23 Thread Greg Burnett
Ulrich, Your HP 5359A observations are normal, and many other HP 5359A users have asked exactly the same question, down through all these years since the box was first introduced. The main point is that the HP 5359A's purpose is *only* to generate precise timing. The box wasn't intended to

[time-nuts] Trak Systems 9101-3

2008-06-23 Thread paul
Hello Does anyone have a service manual or at least the connector pinout for the Trak Systems 9101-3 or 5 gps reference please? Regards Paul -- 73 de Paul GW8IZR IO73TI http://www.gw8izr.com ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To

[time-nuts] NTPD PPS on OpenSolaris

2008-06-23 Thread Matthew Smith
Hi Folks Does anyone know the current status of NTPD with NMEA PPS drivers on OpenSolaris? After much hmm-ing and hah-ing, I have decided that my new office server will be running this OS. Now I need to work out whether it will be my time server or whether an additional lightweight BSD

Re: [time-nuts] NTPD PPS on OpenSolaris

2008-06-23 Thread Magne Mæhre
Matthew Smith wrote: Hi Folks Does anyone know the current status of NTPD with NMEA PPS drivers on OpenSolaris? Disclaimer: I work for Sun Microsystems, and may be biased... OpenSolaris is still running with NTP version 3, but v.4 is enroute. All the standard clock drivers should be

Re: [time-nuts] NTPD PPS on OpenSolaris

2008-06-23 Thread Magne Mæhre
Magne Mæhre wrote: btw, the OpenSolaris NTP project home page is at http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/ntp/ --Magne signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] NTPD PPS on OpenSolaris

2008-06-23 Thread Matthew Smith
[sorry about new thread ID - I've gone to digest mode and Thuderbird can't figure out to what it is replying.] Magne wrote: OpenSolaris is still running with NTP version 3, but v.4 is enroute. All the standard clock drivers should be working (I've only used NMEA and PPS myself, with

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt meets ntpd

2008-06-23 Thread Tim Cwik
Chris Kuethe wrote: On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 11:30 PM, Hal Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody have any Linux code to print the stuff it's sending? If not, I'll probably have something soon. 1) dig around on trimble.com - there's a link to iQSource.zip which may be useful

Re: [time-nuts] Question on HP5359 Time Synthesizer

2008-06-23 Thread Ulrich Bangert
Poul, Bruce and Greg thanks for your help. I see a lot clearer now! The manual can be downloaded from Didier's manual web page http://www.ko4bb.com/cgi-bin/manuals.pl?dir=HP_Agilent Best regards Ulrich -Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im

[time-nuts] THUNDERBOLE STATUS LED'S

2008-06-23 Thread jshank
Hi, Has anyone determined how an interface could be incorporated into the Thunderbolt so as to show if it was locked. Some status led's would be nice such as can be fount on the Z3801's front panel. Jeff ___ time-nuts mailing list --

Re: [time-nuts] THUNDERBOLE STATUS LED'S

2008-06-23 Thread Christian Vogel
Hello Jeff, Has anyone determined how an interface could be incorporated into the Thunderbolt so as to show if it was locked. Some status led's would be nice such as can be fount on the Z3801's front panel. provided that there is no easily accessible connector with the relevant signals

[time-nuts] Thunderbolt meets ntpd

2008-06-23 Thread Mark Sims
I have written a little (2500 line) C program that parses all the Thunderbolt and Thunderbolt-E massages. I'll post it after I scrub some code that can't be shared. The program is actually written in Quick-C for DOS. Sholld be easy to port to Linux by changing the serial I/O routines.

[time-nuts] Austron 1530a manual or schematic

2008-06-23 Thread Bruce Richardson
Hello there: I see the word Austron mentioned on here a fair amount and tune it out (usually :-) ) on account of not having any equipment that I was aware of. Well two things have occurred, on my local ham radio list W0BJ asked if anyone had an Austron 1530a manual or schematic. (So that he

Re: [time-nuts] THUNDERBOLT STATUS LED'S

2008-06-23 Thread Richard W. Solomon
If there is NMEA Data available, there is a design utilizing a PIC chip that will indicate 3D GPS Fix. It was published by W1AUV. 73, Dick, W1KSZ -Original Message- From: Christian Vogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jun 23, 2008 7:28 AM To: jshank [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Discussion of precise

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3801A Motorola Oncore VP Firmware Dates

2008-06-23 Thread randy warner
Larry, Et al, So long as the unit is a VP, the firmare date should not matter. The last firmware for the VP was v10.0 and was released in 1997, but all VP firmware will work with the HP's. As you can see from the TAC32 screenshot on Ebay the receiver being used was a 6 channel VP with v8.4

Re: [time-nuts] Austron 1530a manual or schematic

2008-06-23 Thread Rob Kimberley
Are you sure it's a 1530a? I used to work for Austron, but don't recognise that model number. Rob Kimberley -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Richardson Sent: 23 June 2008 16:11 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Austron

Re: [time-nuts] Austron 1530a manual or schematic

2008-06-23 Thread Rob Kimberley
Or the 2180. ;-( Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Kimberley Sent: 23 June 2008 18:18 To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Austron 1530a manual or schematic Are you sure it's a

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt meets ntpd

2008-06-23 Thread Sylvain RICHARD
Chris Kuethe wrote: On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 11:30 PM, Hal Murray [1][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody have any Linux code to print the stuff it's sending? If not, I'll probably have something soon. 1) dig around on trimble.com - there's a link to iQSource.zip which may be useful Do

[time-nuts] HP Z3801A Motorola Oncore VP Firmware Dates

2008-06-23 Thread vendors
Randy et al: Thanks, Randy, for the history lesson on the VPs and their firmware. My previous firmware comment, however, was directed at the Z3801A's motherboard firmware, not the VP's firmware. This is because my Z3801A won't take a manually entered date after Dec 31st, 2007. With a 2008

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt meets ntpd

2008-06-23 Thread Harlan Stenn
Folks, Just in case anybody isn't aware of the following pages, I thought I'd mention it and invite folks to put whatever information they think would be useful there: http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Support/ConfiguringRefclocks http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Support/RefclockUsers I'm happy

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3801A Motorola Oncore VP Firmware Dates

2008-06-23 Thread randy warner
Larry, Not a problem. The VP works fine with current dates. The ones you have to look out for are back in the original v6.x firmware days. Because of their programming the were not capable of handling the 1024 week rollover. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[time-nuts] VP Startup Times

2008-06-23 Thread randy warner
Guys, Art Sepin was nice enough to pass along the VP startup note. It is attached. Randy VPStart-Up Note.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] VP Startup Times

2008-06-23 Thread Hal Murray
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Art Sepin was nice enough to pass along the VP startup note. It is attached. Interesting. Thanks. What is a pendulum oscillator, and what changes while one is sitting idle? Why does it change more than a normal quartz oscillator? -- These are my opinions, not

Re: [time-nuts] Austron 1530a manual or schematic

2008-06-23 Thread Bruce Richardson
Hi Rob: Well W0BJ said the 1530a is a crystal frequency standard made by austron. And I'll go check on the other one in my storage locker :-). thanks for replying. Still haven't searched the Time-Nuts archives yet. 73 Bruce Richardson W9FZ Attend the CSVHFS Conference in Wichita on July

[time-nuts] THUNDERBOLT STATUS LED'S

2008-06-23 Thread Tom Clifton
/snip Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:24:35 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: Richard W. Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [time-nuts] THUNDERBOLT STATUS LED'S If there is NMEA Data available, there is a design utilizing a PIC chip that will indicate 3D GPS Fix. It was published by W1AUV. 73, Dick, W1KSZ

Re: [time-nuts] VP Startup Times

2008-06-23 Thread randy warner
Hal, A pendulum oscillator is not that different. Basically it is a quartz oscillator that is pulled by an electronic circuit, not unlike a VXVCO. As any crystal does, it ages as it sits around, and depending on how well it follows the characteristic curve for that particular unit the sooner it

[time-nuts] THUNDERBOLT STATUS LED'S

2008-06-23 Thread Mark Sims
The Thunderbolt does not produce NMEA messages, so you would need to parse the TSIP data stream. My C program to do that for all Thunderbolt messages is around 2700 lines long. LOCK on the Thunderbolt is not a simple question to answer with a single blinkey light. There are many degrees of

Re: [time-nuts] THUNDERBOLT STATUS LED'S

2008-06-23 Thread jshank
Mark, I hope you or someone else is able to come up with a Thunderbolt controller for the many of us who have or will be receiving Thunderbolts. A controller based on a LCD touchscreen would be great in the since that one could assemble a self-contained frequency standard based on the