Re: [time-nuts] STEL-1173

2009-09-24 Thread Peter Vince
Hi Magnus, I was surprised to read that you had needed help to resolve the problem as, not to over-inflate your ego, you seem to be very experienced and knowledgable. So don't tease us - what was it? TTFN, Peter Vince (G8ZZR, London, England) On Thu Sep 24 1:04 , Magnus

Re: [time-nuts] Solartron 7150plus DMM Failure

2009-09-24 Thread Roy Phillips
Nigel Do you know if the Solartron 7060 (I think of the same vintage), has the same problem ? Roy - Original Message - From: gandal...@aol.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:49 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Solartron 7150plus DMM Failure In a message

Re: [time-nuts] Solartron 7150plus DMM Failure

2009-09-24 Thread GandalfG8
In a message dated 24/09/2009 10:27:54 GMT Daylight Time, phill...@btinternet.com writes: Do you know if the Solartron 7060 (I think of the same vintage), has the same problem ? Hi Roy Sorry, but I don't know. I don't have any specific information on the

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Mini-T GPSDO

2009-09-24 Thread GandalfG8
In a message dated 24/09/2009 02:34:35 GMT Daylight Time, saidj...@aol.com writes: since you are only concerned about a couple of sample units, I would not be too worried about the tin-whisker problem. Probability of failure is still quite low for a single unit, even if massively

Re: [time-nuts] Solartron 7150plus DMM Failure

2009-09-24 Thread Alan Melia
Hi all, I dont know whether it is pertinent but it may pay to collect dta on this one as there are fairures reported in many makes of equipment. the failing part in my kit has a datecode (??) of 8922F on the paper label on the side. By my reckoning that would be week 22 of 1989, which ties in with

Re: [time-nuts] Solartron 7150plus DMM Failure

2009-09-24 Thread Robert Atkinson
Hi, Not too sure bout the 7060, but the 7061 has the same problem, at least mine did. I'm pretty certain the 7060 will be the same. I don't think it's a batch problem, more a basic design flaw and environmental conditions. I first saw this in the eary BBC B computers. Robert G8RPI. --- On

Re: [time-nuts] RoHS Solder

2009-09-24 Thread SAIDJACK
Hi, yes, tin whiskering is a huge issue. Wikipedia has some nice (and shocking) pics on it. One of the best sources of information is the Nasa Tin Whisker page: _http://nepp.nasa.gov/whisker/_ (http://nepp.nasa.gov/whisker/) bye, Said In a message dated 9/24/2009 06:15:04

Re: [time-nuts] RoHS Solder

2009-09-24 Thread Pete Lancashire
Another article I will see if I can find it took a different slant. Since it can take two to three years for a whisker to grow enough to cause a short. It is a big plus for the consumer industry. Finally a built in failure mechanism to force the consumer to have to buy again, and again, and again.

Re: [time-nuts] RoHS Solder

2009-09-24 Thread SAIDJACK
That's kind of part of the scam in my opinion, we now create much more electronic trash in the name of removing miniscule amounts of environmentally unsafe lead from products.. Forget about running your new Agilent counter for 25+ years like we used to be able to do... Another part of

Re: [time-nuts] RoHS Solder

2009-09-24 Thread Alan Melia
It is amazing the loops we go though. I remember being involved in whiskers about 40 years ago. the information I got then is that tin wgiskers only grow from pure tin, I cant now remember the level of alloying that is necessary to suppress the growth. The problem I had tuened out to be a leadtree

Re: [time-nuts] RoHS Solder

2009-09-24 Thread Lux, Jim (337C)
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of saidj...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 4:38 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] RoHS Solder That's kind of part of the scam in my opinion, we now

Re: [time-nuts] RoHS Solder

2009-09-24 Thread Mike Monett
saidj...@aol.com wrote: That's kind of part of the scam in my opinion, we now create much more electronic trash in the name of removing miniscule amounts of environmentally unsafe lead from products.. Forget about running your new Agilent counter for 25+ years like we used to