Re: [time-nuts] FreeBSD version

2009-09-30 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message , Josep h Gray writes: >I know this has been asked in the past, but things change and new >versions come out. So, what is the currently recommended version of >FreeBSD to use for an NTP server? Is the same version recommended for >a NanoBSD build? I'm probably going to build a server fro

[time-nuts] FreeBSD version

2009-09-30 Thread Joseph Gray
I know this has been asked in the past, but things change and new versions come out. So, what is the currently recommended version of FreeBSD to use for an NTP server? Is the same version recommended for a NanoBSD build? I'm probably going to build a server from a Net4501 and another from an old "i

Re: [time-nuts] GPS with PPS - fluke.l

2009-09-30 Thread John Allen
My apolgies. In Arial font upper case I is graphically identical to lower case l. Aargh! John K1AE - Original Message - From: "Robert Darlington" To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS wit

Re: [time-nuts] GPS with PPS

2009-09-30 Thread Magnus Danielson
Joe, Joseph Gray wrote: Magnus, Thanks for the explaination. I forgot about ionispheric latency effects. I'll look for the book you mentioned. I think there is two books one should get: Elliot D. Kaplan & Christopher J. Hegarty, "Understanding GPS; Principles and Applications; Second editio

[time-nuts] Kaplan and Hegarty book

2009-09-30 Thread Lux, Jim (337C)
> > > > Dip your nose into the Kaplan & Hegarty book for instance. That is what I > > used to reinforce my recollection of things. There are better sources. http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-GPS-Principles-Applications-Second/dp/1580538940 ___ time-n

Re: [time-nuts] GPS with PPS

2009-09-30 Thread Joseph Gray
Magnus, Thanks for the explaination. I forgot about ionispheric latency effects. I'll look for the book you mentioned. Joe KA5ZEC On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 4:11 AM, Magnus Danielson wrote: > Dear Joe, > > Joseph Gray wrote: >> >> Does anyone know if any of those all-in-one hockey puck GPS receive

Re: [time-nuts] GPS with PPS

2009-09-30 Thread Joseph Gray
Well, fluke currently only has the GPS16 HVS. The least expensive GPS18x LVC I've found so far (on or off ebay) is here: http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Garmin-GPS-18x-LVC-Receiver-010-00321-36_W0QQitemZ400075170888QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5d2656a448&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 Thanks to al

Re: [time-nuts] GPS with PPS

2009-09-30 Thread Robert Darlington
http://myworld.ebay.com/fluke.l/ On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Dave hartzell wrote: > Can someone provide a link? I can't seem to find it... > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Robert Darlington >wrote: > > > No, it's fluke.L (well, lowercase L), not upper case i. > > > > > > -Bob > > >

Re: [time-nuts] VLF time stations in Europe

2009-09-30 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <00d701ca4212$e2a41890$0900a...@lark>, "Alan Melia" writes: >Possibly the local noise is the >problem though the signal is quite strong. I maybe didnt give it long >enough.well its French :-)) I built this active antenna last year, and it is the best I have had yet, I have been ab

Re: [time-nuts] VLF time stations in Europe

2009-09-30 Thread Alan Melia
Ah thanks for that Poul I knew there was some data on it which averages out but was not sure what it was. I have a source locked to Droitwich here (which doesnt have time-code), but I have never had a successful lock to Allouis (an option on my off-air unit) Possibly the local noise is the problem

Re: [time-nuts] GPS with PPS

2009-09-30 Thread Dave hartzell
Can someone provide a link? I can't seem to find it... On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Robert Darlington wrote: > No, it's fluke.L (well, lowercase L), not upper case i. > > > -Bob > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 2:45 PM, John Allen >wrote: > > > Hello All - > > > > The seller's eBay ID is fluke.I

Re: [time-nuts] GPS with PPS

2009-09-30 Thread Robert Darlington
No, it's fluke.L (well, lowercase L), not upper case i. -Bob On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 2:45 PM, John Allen wrote: > Hello All - > > The seller's eBay ID is fluke.I. The uppercase letter. > > Back to our regular fine Programming, John K1AE > > - Original Message - From: "Roy Phillips" >

Re: [time-nuts] GPS with PPS

2009-09-30 Thread John Allen
Hello All - The seller's eBay ID is fluke.I. The uppercase letter. Back to our regular fine Programming, John K1AE - Original Message - From: "Roy Phillips" To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:46 AM Subject: Re: [time-n

Re: [time-nuts] VLF time stations in Europe

2009-09-30 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <00b501ca4205$69611440$0900a...@lark>, "Alan Melia" writes: >Hi Magnus TDF (?) France Inter ( Allouis ) is, I believe, a strictly >frequency distribution station [...] They send DCF77 like timecode with phase-shifts. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebs

Re: [time-nuts] VLF time stations in Europe

2009-09-30 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <4ac3a6d5.9040...@rubidium.dyndns.org>, Magnus Danielson writes: >I am trying to make an overview of VLF time stations that can reach >Sweden and may be of practical use. There is a russian station at 200/3 kHz with timesignals, it's a bit too faint on my antenna to be usable. >I kno

Re: [time-nuts] VLF time stations in Europe

2009-09-30 Thread Alan Melia
Hi Magnus TDF (?) France Inter ( Allouis ) is, I believe, a strictly frequency distribution station like Droitwich 198kHz (UK) carrier referenced to a rubidium and measured by the French national bureau I expect. Details of MSF and Droitwich are available from NPL http://www.npl.co.uk/science-techn

Re: [time-nuts] VLF time stations in Europe

2009-09-30 Thread Peter Vince
Hi Magnus, The BBC's "Radio 4" signal on 198 KHz should be another contender. Beware that it has slow (25Hz?) phase mod that carries commercial data signals. From memory, the data packets are 50 bits each, so each spans 2 seconds. Time is sent leading up to the top of the minute, and othe

[time-nuts] VLF time stations in Europe

2009-09-30 Thread Magnus Danielson
Fellow time-nuts, I am trying to make an overview of VLF time stations that can reach Sweden and may be of practical use. Loran-C at 100 kHz seems obvious. DCF77 at 77,5 kHz (50 kW in Germany) is known, certainly within range (my receiver works without much trouble). MSF at 60 kHz (17 kW i

Re: [time-nuts] GPS with PPS

2009-09-30 Thread Hal Murray
> Does anyone know if any of those all-in-one hockey puck GPS receivers > put out PPS on the serial cable? The type that has the antenna and GPS > together, with a serial cable hanging off of it. I'm thinking about > using one for a timing project. The more sensitive, the better, as it > will be u

Re: [time-nuts] GPS with PPS

2009-09-30 Thread David McGaw
Specifically the GPS 18x LVC (high-sensitivity, bare wires). David At 12:07 PM 9/30/2009, you wrote: The Garmin GPS-18 series with serial output (not USB) is a hockey puck with WAAS and PPS output. David At 06:46 AM 9/30/2009, you wrote: Joe I would suggest that you could consider one of th

Re: [time-nuts] Stanford Research SR620 Measurement Bias

2009-09-30 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Jürg, Jürg Kögel wrote: Make the adjustment in the correct sequence: 1. Set the Cal jumper to Cal Enable 2. Connect the reference to Ext Ref (rear) and Input A 3. Switch the counter to Ext Ref 4. Set the CalByte 50 for the best display (this is a very fine adjustement) 5. Switch the counter

Re: [time-nuts] GPS with PPS

2009-09-30 Thread David McGaw
The Garmin GPS-18 series with serial output (not USB) is a hockey puck with WAAS and PPS output. David At 06:46 AM 9/30/2009, you wrote: Joe I would suggest that you could consider one of the Garmin GPS 16/17 models, that have been offered by Fluke1(China) at a sensible price. I have a GPS 1

Re: [time-nuts] Stanford Research SR620 Measurement Bias

2009-09-30 Thread Jürg Kögel
Make the adjustment in the correct sequence: 1. Set the Cal jumper to Cal Enable 2. Connect the reference to Ext Ref (rear) and Input A 3. Switch the counter to Ext Ref 4. Set the CalByte 50 for the best display (this is a very fine adjustement) 5. Switch the counter to Int Ref 6. Set the CalByte

Re: [time-nuts] GPS with PPS

2009-09-30 Thread Roy Phillips
Joe I would suggest that you could consider one of the Garmin GPS 16/17 models, that have been offered by Fluke1(China) at a sensible price. I have a GPS 16HVS which is performing very well just sitting on a window-sill (facing North), this offers a 1pps timing signal. It requires between 8.0 t

Re: [time-nuts] GPS with PPS

2009-09-30 Thread Magnus Danielson
Dear Joe, Joseph Gray wrote: Does anyone know if any of those all-in-one hockey puck GPS receivers put out PPS on the serial cable? The type that has the antenna and GPS together, with a serial cable hanging off of it. I'm thinking about using one for a timing project. The more sensitive, the be

[time-nuts] GPS with PPS

2009-09-30 Thread Joseph Gray
Does anyone know if any of those all-in-one hockey puck GPS receivers put out PPS on the serial cable? The type that has the antenna and GPS together, with a serial cable hanging off of it. I'm thinking about using one for a timing project. The more sensitive, the better, as it will be used indoors