Re: [time-nuts] Lab Test Equipment

2010-07-20 Thread Said Jackson
Hi there xx, A 2 channel scope with 2ns per division and ext trigger input would already give you very precise performance data of all three sources against each other.. That's the low-cost solution. On the high end look to buy a Symmetricom Tsc-5115a analyzer. Bye Said Sent from my iPad

Re: [time-nuts] surface mount (was PICTIC II Parts from Mouser)

2010-07-20 Thread Stanley Reynolds
Bob, Thank you for the video Now all we need is a robot and software to filter the jitter from my hands. Maybe a little less expensive than the da Vinci robot. http://www.davincisurgery.com/ Stanley   - Original Message From: Bob Bownes bow...@gmail.com To: Discussion of precise time

Re: [time-nuts] Lab Test Equipment

2010-07-20 Thread Said Jackson
Forgot to mention: With the below two instruments you can adjust two of your Rb's so that all have the same frequency by adjusting them so that there is no phase drift over long time periods. You will need to discipline one or more of them to gps to know if this frequency is actually accurate

Re: [time-nuts] Datum TS-2100 Rubidium

2010-07-20 Thread Greg Dowd
Hey Rob! Yeah, there was a LPRO Rb option on that board and you are remembering correctly. The main thing was a dc-dc converter to get the right voltage (24vdc?). Then, I believe we just selected the external clock and cranked the filter constant up to 1000 and I think that's it. I can't

Re: [time-nuts] Datum TS-2100 Rubidium

2010-07-20 Thread Greg Dowd
I think the Rb version went in a taller case? As for the reboot, probably depends on where you are probing :-) My proto unit from 1996 is still happily ticking along on my bench in the lab with an MTI oven that still has tuning range. -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] surface mount (was PICTIC II Parts from Mouser)

2010-07-20 Thread Chuck Harris
Stanley, Your brain will do an excellent job of translating your finger motion to the micro motions necessary to move surface mount parts around with tweezers. Barring disease, the usual solution to finger jitter is to keep tweezers pressure light, and lay off the coffee. Even if you do jitter

Re: [time-nuts] Lab Test Equipment

2010-07-20 Thread Peter Vince
Hello, and welcome to the group, and what I find an endlessly fascinating subject. Said's suggestion of using a 'scope is fine, but is mind-numbingly tedious (I've done it!) I think you need a frequency counter/timer whose readings can be output to a computer for subsequent analysis. There are

Re: [time-nuts] surface mount (was PICTIC II Parts from Mouser)

2010-07-20 Thread Peter Vince
On 20 July 2010 18:51, Chuck Harris cfhar...@erols.com wrote: ...I use the little finger on my tweezers hand as a balance point for my hand.  Just the act of having it touch the stage, or board removes all of the jitter. If only our 1PPS signals had a little finger that could rest somewhere

Re: [time-nuts] surface mount (was PICTIC II Parts from Mouser)

2010-07-20 Thread David Martindale
You'll probably also find that your fine motor control improves a bunch when you can actually *see* what you are doing in 3D. I got a stereo microscope a year or two ago, and I'm amazed at how finely I can control the tip of a pair of tweezers or a knife point or soldering iron under the

[time-nuts] OT: Looking for Systron-Donner 1618 manual

2010-07-20 Thread Bert, VE2ZAZ
Hi Everyone, I am looking for a Systron-Donner 1618 or 1618B microwave synthesizer Service Manual. Please contact me direct if you can help. Thanks Bert, VE2ZAZ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] surface mount (was PICTIC II Parts from Mouser)

2010-07-20 Thread Joseph M Gwinn
It's amazing what one can do by hand. In the 1970s I worked in an electrophysiology lab where we put glass microelectrodes into rat neurons. The microelectrodes were made in the lab by heating 1 mm diameter glass tubing to an orange heat and pulling abruptly. (This was done in a simple

[time-nuts] Pictic II boards are here !

2010-07-20 Thread Stanley Reynolds
Paypal to stanley_reyno...@yahoo.com  . Yes I still have extra boards. Stanley ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Pictic II boards are here !

2010-07-20 Thread Stanley Reynolds
Picture of board here: www.n4iqt.com/stanley_reynolds/picticii/Picticboard001.JPG - Original Message From: Stanley Reynolds stanley_reyno...@yahoo.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 5:08:22 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Pictic II boards are here ! Paypal to

Re: [time-nuts] Pictic II boards are here !

2010-07-20 Thread Stanley Reynolds
Corrected link to picture: www.n4iqt.com/picticii/Picticboard001.JPG   - Original Message From: Stanley Reynolds stanley_reyno...@yahoo.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 5:26:44 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Pictic

Re: [time-nuts] Pictic II boards are here !

2010-07-20 Thread Robert Darlington
Cool board, Stanley. The PIC chips are in on my end and the plastic protective tubes I ordered came in today. I got these for mailing them out to the various folks that wanted a chip. Guys, I'm going to try to get them out this week. As I mentioned before, I'm leaving for Arizona this coming

Re: [time-nuts] Datum TS-2100 Rubidium

2010-07-20 Thread Julien Goodwin
On 21/07/10 02:41, Greg Dowd wrote: Hey Rob! Yeah, there was a LPRO Rb option on that board and you are remembering correctly. The main thing was a dc-dc converter to get the right voltage (24vdc?). Then, I believe we just selected the external So some more probing with a meter this