Re: [time-nuts] Question about SoundCard stability?

2010-10-14 Thread David McClain
Or, now that I think about it, it's similar to what we do when measuring ADEV.. you can do a crude how many zero crossings in the time window or you can do a fit a sinusoid to a series of ADC samples. One has an uncertainty of one count/epoch, the other can be substantially better. How

[time-nuts] measuring frequency

2010-10-14 Thread jimlux
David McClain wrote: Or, now that I think about it, it's similar to what we do when measuring ADEV.. you can do a crude how many zero crossings in the time window or you can do a fit a sinusoid to a series of ADC samples. One has an uncertainty of one count/epoch, the other can be

Re: [time-nuts] measuring frequency

2010-10-14 Thread David McClain
No, it isn't restricted to an integral number of periods, but you will have a higher variance in your fits unless there are, due to variations of the fit with respect to initial phase. I don't want to send this thread in the wrong direction... but we have to agree on apples vs apples

[time-nuts] Thunderbolt Not Warming Up?

2010-10-14 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi: Another idea to check the WWVB loop-stick was to connect it to the HP 4395A in Spectrum Analyzer mode. But the notation Ext Ref did not appear, i.e. the external 10 MHz reference signal is not there. It should be coming from the Thunderbolt. The Thunderbolt (although running all the

[time-nuts] HP 5090B

2010-10-14 Thread David C. Partridge
OK, I just got one of these as part of a lot of other test gear. What is it for? I found nothing searching the archive, and Google didn't help much either. The Agilent site disclaimed all knowledge! I suspect it MIGHT be an off air frequency standard as it has 1MHz and 100kHz outputs and an

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5090B

2010-10-14 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi: Can you confirm the model number and provide a photo? Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com David C. Partridge wrote: OK, I just got one of these as part of a lot of other test gear. What is it for? I found nothing searching the archive, and Google didn't help much either.

Re: [time-nuts] Question about SoundCard stability?

2010-10-14 Thread shalimr9
I think that's what Jim is saying. If you try to fit to the signal using only the zero crossing, it will be hard unless you have a lot of zero crossing, because you will have only one point per period to fit to. If you fit 10 or 100 points per period, you improve your fitting considerably. That

[time-nuts] HP 5090B

2010-10-14 Thread Mark Sims
Standard Frequency Receiver.   There was a 5090 and 5091.  This guy lists the manual (and he is in the UK): http://www.divdev.fsnet.co.uk/manmisc.htm ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To

[time-nuts] HP 5090B

2010-10-14 Thread Mark Sims
Make that:  http://www.divdev.fsnet.co.uk/man.htm ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5090B

2010-10-14 Thread GandalfG8
In a message dated 14/10/2010 20:46:15 GMT Daylight Time, david.partri...@perdrix.co.uk writes: OK, I just got one of these as part of a lot of other test gear. What is it for? I found nothing searching the archive, and Google didn't help much either. The Agilent site disclaimed all

[time-nuts] HP 5090B

2010-10-14 Thread Arthur Dent
The info I’ve included below appears to be from 1969 and sounds like it was the scheme to broadcast standard frequency on the TV channels, or to synchronize the broadcasting stations. I have removed the number references scattered in the text because they refer to a drawing that isn’t

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5090B

2010-10-14 Thread GandalfG8
In a message dated 14/10/2010 22:47:20 GMT Daylight Time, golgarfrinc...@yahoo.com writes: Some commercially available receivers which are suitable for this purpose are the type OFS1 manufactured by Advance Electronics Ltd., the types 5090B and 5091A manufactured by Hewlett-Packard Ltd.

[time-nuts] [rather OT] nice MJD

2010-10-14 Thread Jean-Louis Oneto
Hello, I just realized that there will be a nice time coming: MJD=5.5, which happen to fall on Chrismas Day 25-Dec-2010 at 13:19:59.52 UTC. I would dare to say that it must carry any theological significance... Jean-Louis Oneto ___

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5090B

2010-10-14 Thread Neville Michie
The HP5090A is a Droitwich receiver to get the 200kHz standard frequency transmission from Droitwich UK. Some buffoon of a bureaucrat moved the transmitter to the much more useful frequency of 198kHz, where it is today. I have one of these receivers and somewhere some circuit manual