Re: [time-nuts] OT: 5372A

2010-11-21 Thread Bill Hawkins
What's this?? Has gold been discovered on the west coast again?

Shall I cash in all my timenuts acquisitions for a pan and a donkey?

:-) for the sarcasm impaired . . .

Bill Hawkins
 

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planning to move to gold beach...

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Re: [time-nuts] OT: 5372A

2010-11-21 Thread Dave Mallery
planning to move to gold beach...

73

dave

On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Eric Garner  wrote:

> Out of curiosity, how many other time-nuts are here in Oregon ( besides me,
> and apparantly pete)
>
>
>
> Sent from my Banana Jr. mobile device
>
>
> On Nov 19, 2010, at 3:15 PM, Magnus Danielson 
> wrote:
>
>  On 19/11/10 18:13, Pete Lancashire wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks everyone. The question came up in what I am being charged for
>>> shipping
>>> From Texas to Oregon, $140 UPS Ground. Not complaining since I got the
>>> thing
>>> for $53. Hopefully will be FIP.
>>>
>>> -pete
>>>
>>> PS Thanks also on the battery issue. Next to get a real service manual.
>>>
>>
>> I've done most of the things I need with what's on the net.
>>
>> Replacement of the battery was trivial. Finding out that it was the root
>> cause was a bit less than obvious. The input sensitivity calibration always
>> goes flat-line, being a huge factor of annoying you, as you would need to
>> trim it up on each power-up. It's done with menues and no service-mode
>> required. Replacing the battery is a matter of finding a 3,6V Lithium
>> battery and do some soldering. Then after power-up do the input calibration
>> and you are all set for the next 20 years or so. It is worth the effort and
>> not hard at all.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Magnus
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Re: [time-nuts] Changing frequency of an HP 10811 oscillator

2010-11-21 Thread Adrian

Demian,

the big question is, what are your requirements?
Long term stability, phase noise, ADEV,...?

You'll probably spend a multiple of what a finished product costs to get 
the 10811A with a cstom made x-tal on specs. Not to speak of the phase 
noise test equipment needed, that will break your bank if you have to 
rent it for a couple of weeks...


The easiest way to get 20 MHz out of a 10811A is to double the output 
frequency.

The next option would be to phase lock a 20 MHz VCXO to the 10811A.
Obviously, you can also divide a 80 MHz, 100 MHz etc. oscillator down to 
20 MHz.


So, the question is, what do you really need?

Adrian


Demian Martin schrieb:

Having seen the note on alternate crystals for the HP10811 oscillator I was
wondering if its realistically possible to re-crystal one to frequencies in
the 20 MHz range? Some other components may need to be changed of course but
is this worthwhile exploring? Who would be a good vendor for a few custom SC
crystals that would work in an HP10811? I have been quoted prices in the
$500+ range for finished products and want to explore a more cost effective
option before I spend a lot of money.



Demian Martin

Product Design Services

San Leandro, CA 94577

209 613 6990



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Re: [time-nuts] Changing frequency of an HP 10811 oscillator

2010-11-21 Thread Bob Camp
Hi

The crystal package used in the 10811 is a bit unusual. The crystal is a tight 
fit in the heater block, so you would need a "same/same" package. A loose fit 
would impact the thermal performance. 

Bottom line - you need to find somebody who does:

1) That package
2) SC's at your (likely odd) frequency 
3) Small orders

My *guess* is that the crystal isn't going to be cheap.

Bob


On Nov 21, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Demian Martin wrote:

> Having seen the note on alternate crystals for the HP10811 oscillator I was
> wondering if its realistically possible to re-crystal one to frequencies in
> the 20 MHz range? Some other components may need to be changed of course but
> is this worthwhile exploring? Who would be a good vendor for a few custom SC
> crystals that would work in an HP10811? I have been quoted prices in the
> $500+ range for finished products and want to explore a more cost effective
> option before I spend a lot of money.
> 
> 
> 
> Demian Martin
> 
> Product Design Services
> 
> San Leandro, CA 94577
> 
> 209 613 6990
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [time-nuts] Christmas Comes Early #1

2010-11-21 Thread Stan, W1LE

Hello The Net:

The GPIB controller is spoken for.

Stan, W1LE


On 11/21/2010 11:20 AM, Stan, W1LE wrote:

Hello The Net:

Excess to my needs is a National Instruments model: GPIB 232CT 64K,   
P/N: 180450-01 Rev B1


Looks to be a RS-232 to IEEE 488 controller (GPIB adapter) in a 
standalone box.


I do not have the wall wart power supply, but it uses +9VDC @ 700 mA max.
I do not have any drivers or any documentation, which should be on the 
NI website.


Connectors are for a female 25 pin D shell for the RS-232 and a female 
GPIB connector.


Does it work ?  I do not know.

Free to the first respondent who wants to pay the postage.
Should fit in one of those priority mail boxes with unlimited weight.

I grew up and got a Prologix USB to GPIB adapter and I have never 
looked back.


Stan, W1LE Cape Cod FN41sr




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[time-nuts] Changing frequency of an HP 10811 oscillator

2010-11-21 Thread Demian Martin
Having seen the note on alternate crystals for the HP10811 oscillator I was
wondering if its realistically possible to re-crystal one to frequencies in
the 20 MHz range? Some other components may need to be changed of course but
is this worthwhile exploring? Who would be a good vendor for a few custom SC
crystals that would work in an HP10811? I have been quoted prices in the
$500+ range for finished products and want to explore a more cost effective
option before I spend a lot of money.

 

Demian Martin

Product Design Services

San Leandro, CA 94577

209 613 6990

 

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Re: [time-nuts] Christmas Comes Early #1

2010-11-21 Thread Bob Camp
Hi

These gizmos can be very useful when the counter is on one end of the room and 
the computer is 30+ feet away. They are a bit speed limited in that case, but 
for a reading a second - no problem. 

Bob


On Nov 21, 2010, at 11:20 AM, Stan, W1LE wrote:

> Hello The Net:
> 
> Excess to my needs is a National Instruments model: GPIB 232CT 64K,   P/N: 
> 180450-01 Rev B1
> 
> Looks to be a RS-232 to IEEE 488 controller (GPIB adapter) in a standalone 
> box.
> 
> I do not have the wall wart power supply, but it uses +9VDC @ 700 mA max.
> I do not have any drivers or any documentation, which should be on the NI 
> website.
> 
> Connectors are for a female 25 pin D shell for the RS-232 and a female GPIB 
> connector.
> 
> Does it work ?  I do not know.
> 
> Free to the first respondent who wants to pay the postage.
> Should fit in one of those priority mail boxes with unlimited weight.
> 
> I grew up and got a Prologix USB to GPIB adapter and I have never looked back.
> 
> Stan, W1LE Cape Cod FN41sr
> 
> 
> 
> 
> z
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[time-nuts] Christmas Comes Early #1

2010-11-21 Thread Stan, W1LE

Hello The Net:

Excess to my needs is a National Instruments model: GPIB 232CT 64K,   
P/N: 180450-01 Rev B1


Looks to be a RS-232 to IEEE 488 controller (GPIB adapter) in a 
standalone box.


I do not have the wall wart power supply, but it uses +9VDC @ 700 mA max.
I do not have any drivers or any documentation, which should be on the 
NI website.


Connectors are for a female 25 pin D shell for the RS-232 and a female 
GPIB connector.


Does it work ?  I do not know.

Free to the first respondent who wants to pay the postage.
Should fit in one of those priority mail boxes with unlimited weight.

I grew up and got a Prologix USB to GPIB adapter and I have never looked 
back.


Stan, W1LE Cape Cod FN41sr




z

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