Re: [time-nuts] Isolated input oscilloscopes

2010-12-12 Thread Henry Hallam
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Mark Sims hol...@hotmail.com wrote: A little off topic,  but needed for a time-nutty application:  4 channel scope with isolated inputs that is affordable.  I have a 2 channel Tek THS730A.  The Tek TPS2014 is rather pricey.  Does anybody know of something

Re: [time-nuts] Data Professionals Press Release

2010-12-12 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 20101212055157.1b3ac11b...@karen.lavabit.com, Charles P. Steinmet z writes: Intellectual property rights do not just evaporate or return to the public domain when a company disappears -- SOMEONE owns them (often someone who bought the assets of the company, perhaps for less than a

Re: [time-nuts] Software defined spectrum analyzer

2010-12-12 Thread Gerhard Hoffmann
Am 12.12.2010 07:43, schrieb Jim Lux: I think it would be possible to build a microwave front end for, say the tentec tapr VNA. A nice quiet synthesized LO, etc I have this one: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VNWA/ excellent to 500 MHz, quite ok to 1300. 12-term calibration, Includes opt.

Re: [time-nuts] Data Professionals Press Release

2010-12-12 Thread Charles P. Steinmetz
I wrote: Intellectual property rights do not just evaporate or return to the public domain when a company disappears -- SOMEONE owns them Poul replied: Actually, they do evaporate if nobody defends them. Yes and no (under US law). If someone openly and notoriously infringes IP rights

Re: [time-nuts] TrueTime DC468 sat clock simulator is working well

2010-12-12 Thread shalimr9
Paul, You are welcome to upload your project files to my site. You can also use the Wiki to make a project information page. Let me know if you need any Getting Started help with the Wiki. Didier KO4BB Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: paul swed

[time-nuts] Loran DX and Austron 2100

2010-12-12 Thread Claude Houde
Hello everybody. Does anyone on the northern east coast has been sucessfull in receiving European Loran C chains ? I'm located around Montreal, Québec. If so, what type of antennas you used ? Thanks ! Claude Houde VA2 HDD ___ time-nuts mailing

Re: [time-nuts] Data Professionals Press Release

2010-12-12 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 20101212110630.e4f6211b...@karen.lavabit.com, Charles P. Steinmet z writes: I wrote: Intellectual property rights do not just evaporate or return to the public domain when a company disappears -- SOMEONE owns them Poul replied: Actually, they do evaporate if nobody defends them. But

Re: [time-nuts] Data Professionals Press Release

2010-12-12 Thread Charles P. Steinmetz
But a rights holder almost never loses all rights, [...] Poul wrote: ...provided they can prove that they own them in the first place. Absolutely. As I said, I have no information one way or the other as to whether Data Professionals bought anything from anybody -- and if they did,

[time-nuts] Software defined spectrum analyzer

2010-12-12 Thread Geraldo Lino de Campos
I found the Signal Hound while searching for a baseband analyzer, to be use in phase noise measurements. Don, do you have tried it? maybe using an external low noise ref? Any other member tried it? -- Geraldo Lino de Campos gera...@decampos.net

Re: [time-nuts] DJVU and PDF

2010-12-12 Thread Chuck Harris
Perry Sandeen wrote: ... I tried the free Open Office but the word processor did not have an un-do function (which I ALWAYS need) that I could find. On the main window frame up at the top: EDIT-UNDO or CTRL-Z In the preferences section, you can set how many levels of undo you wish to

Re: [time-nuts] Loran DX and Austron 2100

2010-12-12 Thread Stan, W1LE
Good Morning Claude, I am assembling a K9AY terminated loop antenna, pointing to N. Europe. (~30 degrees) Will use a ARR preamplifier at the antenna. I hope to start listening later this month. Some stations to listen for: Lessay, France master on GRI 6731, Soustons France, slave X BO ,

Re: [time-nuts] TrueTime DC468 sat clock simulator is working well

2010-12-12 Thread paul swed
Everyone thank you for the offers. Really appreciate it. Will email when the documentation and such are complete. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 7:54 AM, shali...@gmail.com wrote: Paul, You are welcome to upload your project files to my site. You can also use the Wiki to make a

Re: [time-nuts] Software defined spectrum analyzer

2010-12-12 Thread paul swed
It is pretty impressive for 10 oz of weight. Thats also a reasonable price if you did not have the big iron big power units. Regards On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 1:43 AM, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: On Dec 11, 2010, at 10:14 PM, Don Latham d...@montana.com wrote: Jim: Indeed. I've a

Re: [time-nuts] Loran DX and Austron 2100

2010-12-12 Thread paul swed
I had picked up the Lessay chain in the summer over night. But it was very unreliable. Have been waiting for winter to try again. I suppose it might be time but business travel will preclude a effort this week. I am off next week so that should be a good chance. My antennas are. Preamplified

Re: [time-nuts] Data Professionals Press Release

2010-12-12 Thread randy_hunt...@yahoo.com
Actually, Heathkit is not out of business. Check out Heathkit learning systems. -- Sent from ATT Wireless using Mobile Email --Original Message-- From: Charles P. Steinmetz charles_steinm...@lavabit.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com

[time-nuts] (from HP list) Frequency Standards: Basics and Applications

2010-12-12 Thread k6rtm
From the HP equipment list, thought it might be of interest here: - Posted by: k6...@aol.com k6...@aol.com k6yaz Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:16 pm (PST) A useful and interesting textbook, Frequency Standards Basics and Applications by Dr. Fritz Riehl, published in 2004, is available on

Re: [time-nuts] DJVU and PDF

2010-12-12 Thread Chris Albertson
People _think_ they can't afford a Mac. But the total cost of ownership is actually lower. For example in this case with just the basic software that comes with Mac OSX you can create and edit PDF files, extract the images, cut out and copy the text and so on. PDF is the native display format

Re: [time-nuts] (from HP list) Frequency Standards: Basics and Applications

2010-12-12 Thread Joseph Gray
For those who don't have or want a Scribd account (you can't download w/o one), here is a bookstore with links to a free copy: http://www.addebook.com/tech/engineer/frequency-standards-basics-and-applications_3817.html Joe Gray W5JG On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:13 AM, k6...@comcast.net wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] (from HP list) Frequency Standards: Basics and Applications

2010-12-12 Thread Eric Garner
they put the links below the ads for some stupid reason here are the links: http://mihd.net/x6govu http://rapidshare.com/files/66949321/Frequency_Standards_Basics_and_Applications_3527402306.rar I used the first one sucessfully -Eric On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 1:09 PM, paul swed

Re: [time-nuts] DJVU and PDF

2010-12-12 Thread Chuck Harris
Chris Albertson wrote: People _think_ they can't afford a Mac. But the total cost of ownership is actually lower. For example in this case with just the basic software that comes with Mac OSX you can create and edit PDF files, extract the images, cut out and copy the text and so on. PDF is

Re: [time-nuts] (from HP list) Frequency Standards: Basics and Applications

2010-12-12 Thread Richard W. Solomon
I get a file deleted error message ??? Perhaps it doesn't like Firefox ?? 73, Dick, W1KSZ -Original Message- From: paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com Sent: Dec 12, 2010 2:09 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] (from HP

Re: [time-nuts] (from HP list) Frequency Standards: Basics and Applications

2010-12-12 Thread William H. Fite
Try the mihd link. On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Richard W. Solomon w1...@earthlink.netwrote: I get a file deleted error message ??? Perhaps it doesn't like Firefox ?? 73, Dick, W1KSZ -Original Message- From: paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com Sent: Dec 12, 2010 2:09 PM To:

Re: [time-nuts] (from HP list) Frequency Standards: Basics and Applications

2010-12-12 Thread Stanley Reynolds
Try www.n4iqt.com/books I like the first part and the last part the math in the middle is over my head :-) Stanley - Original Message From: Richard W. Solomon w1...@earthlink.net To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sun, December 12, 2010

Re: [time-nuts] (from HP list) Frequency Standards: Basics and Applications

2010-12-12 Thread Cook Mike
try http://mihd.net/x6govu worked for me with firefox. Le 12/12/2010 23:57, Richard W. Solomon a écrit : I get a file deleted error message ??? Perhaps it doesn't like Firefox ?? 73, Dick, W1KSZ -Original Message- From: paul swedpaulsw...@gmail.com Sent: Dec 12, 2010 2:09 PM

Re: [time-nuts] 3586A HQ Manuals READY

2010-12-12 Thread Chuck Harris
Hi Robert, I just got some time to scan through your latest manuals for the 3586, and they are beautiful! Thank you very much for taking the time and effort to produce such a high quality product. They will be very useful to me. -Chuck Harris Roberto Barrios wrote: Hi, The manuals are

Re: [time-nuts] (from HP list) Frequency Standards: Basicsand Applications

2010-12-12 Thread jimlux
Or its a bootleg copy and they were asked to take it down Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Richard W. Solomon w1...@earthlink.net Sender: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 15:57:07 -0700 (GMT-07:00) To: Discussion of precise time and frequency

Re: [time-nuts] DJVU and PDF

2010-12-12 Thread Mike S
At 05:48 PM 12/12/2010, Chuck Harris wrote... Chris Albertson wrote: PDF is the native display format used by the Mac. No it isn't. Postscript is the standard internal language. It is also the internal language of Windows, and Linux. LOL. For someone who presumes to correct others, you

Re: [time-nuts] DJVU and PDF

2010-12-12 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 12/13/2010 12:33 AM, Mike S wrote: At 05:48 PM 12/12/2010, Chuck Harris wrote... Chris Albertson wrote: PDF is the native display format used by the Mac. No it isn't. Postscript is the standard internal language. It is also the internal language of Windows, and Linux. LOL. For someone

Re: [time-nuts] DJVU and PDF

2010-12-12 Thread Chuck Harris
Mike S wrote: At 05:48 PM 12/12/2010, Chuck Harris wrote... Chris Albertson wrote: PDF is the native display format used by the Mac. No it isn't. Postscript is the standard internal language. It is also the internal language of Windows, and Linux. LOL. For someone who presumes to correct

Re: [time-nuts] DJVU and PDF

2010-12-12 Thread Mike S
At 05:48 PM 12/12/2010, Chuck Harris wrote... Postscript is the standard internal language. It is also the internal language of Windows, and Linux. At 07:11 PM 12/12/2010, Chuck Harris wrote... My reference was to outputs from applications level programs. Very strange, then, that you'd

Re: [time-nuts] DJVU and PDF

2010-12-12 Thread Larry Snyder
This is not the place for this. -ls- mi...@flatsurface.com (Mike S) wrote: At 05:48 PM 12/12/2010, Chuck Harris wrote... Postscript is the standard internal language. It is also the internal language of Windows, and Linux. At 07:11 PM 12/12/2010, Chuck Harris wrote... My reference was to

Re: [time-nuts] (from HP list) Frequency Standards: Basicsand Applications

2010-12-12 Thread paul swed
Thanks for the local copies. they downloaded fine and look like an interesting read. the other sites were quite a problem. Regards On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 6:20 PM, jim...@earthlink.net wrote: Or its a bootleg copy and they were asked to take it down Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original

Re: [time-nuts] (from HP list) Frequency Standards: BasicsandApplications

2010-12-12 Thread WB6BNQ
For sure, The problem was not in the downloading. The real problem was in trying to read the damn thing as it gave my one cell brain a serious headache. BillWB6BNQ paul swed wrote: Thanks for the local copies. they downloaded fine and look like an interesting read. the other sites

Re: [time-nuts] DJVU and PDF

2010-12-12 Thread Mike S
So, once again, there's an extended discussion not even closely related to time. I apologize for getting involved. I can only hope that Mr. Ackerman steps in sooner next time, and is true to his previous words: Cute or fun as they may be, there's no place here for threads that aren't related

Re: [time-nuts] Older Lucent GPSDO and Rubidium combo

2010-12-12 Thread Paul Cloud
Hello Bob and the list, Thanks for the reply, I have been trying to set up a good quiet 24 volt supply with adequate current capacity to carry the startup load. I was initially using a small switcher but it didn't have enough moxie to get startup completed it seems. Some of my initial issues were

Re: [time-nuts] DJVU and PDF

2010-12-12 Thread William H. Fite
Now, now. Let's play nicely. On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Mike S mi...@flatsurface.com wrote: So, once again, there's an extended discussion not even closely related to time. I apologize for getting involved. I can only hope that Mr. Ackerman steps in sooner next time, and is true to

Re: [time-nuts] Older Lucent GPSDO and Rubidium combo

2010-12-12 Thread Hal Murray
Are you under the impression that the Rb is disciplined also? I had thought that the GPSDO side was disciplined and the Rb was only for holdover, they seem to call it fly-wheeling. They spec 8 hour holdover for the GPSDO and 24 hour holdover for the Rb in the limited info I've been able to

Re: [time-nuts] Older Lucent GPSDO and Rubidium combo

2010-12-12 Thread Paul Cloud
Well I suppose that my use of the word spec was incorrect the quote is listed below. OM redundancy The Oscillator Module provides a highly stable timing reference capable of being disciplined from an external source, such as the GPS receiver or network clock. Two versions are available: Rubidium

Re: [time-nuts] Older Lucent GPSDO and Rubidium combo

2010-12-12 Thread Paul Cloud
Oops I found more just as you suspected. Rb RF frequency stability After a minimum of 22 minutes of warm-up at 25° C (77° F), interface circuitry with 0.05-ppm 15-MHz accuracy can be maintained for a minimum of seven years with CTU adjustment of the OM frequency. For temperatures between 0-10° C

Re: [time-nuts] DJVU and PDF

2010-12-12 Thread Chris Albertson
It's worth reading the documentation. 1) PDF is now an ISO standard. Adobe created it but as of 2008 it is ISO. 2) Look at the developer documentation for Mac OSX's quartz graphic system. Very loosely, what you do is open a contex and then send PDF drawing comands to it. This can be directed