Re: [time-nuts] Hammond Boxes Available -

2010-12-31 Thread Eric Garner
Mike, Do you mind if I forward your email to my local dorkbot group to see if anyone is interested in your Hammond boxes? Sent from my Banana jr (tm) Mobile Device On Dec 31, 2010, at 7:49 PM, "Mike Feher" wrote: > Sorry for the on-line post. I thought it was sent to me direct. Best of > time

Re: [time-nuts] Problems with Garmin - maybe we should cut them alittle slack

2010-12-31 Thread Horst Schmidt
Well Richard. maybe we should all go back to the horse and buggy days. The horse even found its way bak when the driver had a skin full and was not to sure where he lived. Regards, Horst (e) On 1/01/2011 16:08, Richard W. Solomon wrote: I add just one more comment ... Most of the destinati

Re: [time-nuts] Problems with Garmin - maybe we should cut them alittle slack

2010-12-31 Thread J. Forster
HNY, I disagree. The reason a high performance GPS costs 100K or more is that the engineering cost is ammortized over a few hundred units. Say the thing cost $10M to develop and you make 1000, that's $10,000 NRE per unit. However, if you have a successful commercial unit and sell 1,000,000 the N

Re: [time-nuts] Problems with Garmin - maybe we should cut them alittle slack

2010-12-31 Thread Richard W. Solomon
I add just one more comment ... Most of the destinations I program in, by address, work well. Most of the time, I get led right to the door. So why can't it figure out where I live ?? Just sloppy work, pure and simple. 73, Dick, W1KSZ -Original Message- >From: Horst Schmidt >Sent: De

Re: [time-nuts] Problems with Garmin - maybe we should cut them alittle slack

2010-12-31 Thread Horst Schmidt
Hi, first, a happy and hopefully healthy New Year to all of you. I think, some of you are going slightly overboard, in what you expect a $150 Dollar car navigator should do, I also don't believe some of you you realise what exactly it was designed to do. It is not a device to accurately

Re: [time-nuts] Hammond Boxes Available -

2010-12-31 Thread Mike Feher
Sorry for the on-line post. I thought it was sent to me direct. Best of time-nut happiness in 2011 - Mike Mike B. Feher, EOZ Inc. 89 Arnold Blvd. Howell, NJ, 07731 732-886-5960 office 908-902-3831 cell -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] Hammond Boxes Available -

2010-12-31 Thread Mike Feher
Stan - Too many, HI. You would do better getting 3 as the shipping would be the same. I can let you have 3 for $22 plus the $10.70 shipping. You decide. 73 - Mike Mike B. Feher, N4FS 89 Arnold Blvd. Howell, NJ, 07731 732-886-5960 office 908-902-3831 cell -Original Message- From: time-nu

Re: [time-nuts] Hammond Boxes Available -

2010-12-31 Thread Stan, W1LE
Hello Mike, Any boxes left ? I am looking for 2 each sent by mail to zip 02644. Thanks Stan, W1LE On 12/21/2010 1:51 PM, Mike Feher wrote: I have a quantity of NOS Hammond boxes available. These are model number 1598HBK. Mouser is the cheapest source for these that I found on a quick searc

Re: [time-nuts] Problems with Garmin - maybe we should cut them a little slack

2010-12-31 Thread Greg Troxel
Since we're already having an OT flamefest about garmin, I'd like to point out openstreetmap (OSM): http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=36.38671875&lon=-93.251953125&zoom=4 which is a world-wide wiki-style editable map. In some places, it's more accurate than navteq and teleatlas, but it is gen

Re: [time-nuts] Problems with Garmin Nuvi

2010-12-31 Thread John Green
When a product is sold giving the distinct impression that it is to be used to navigate to street addresses, then it should be accurate for the use it is sold for. If the street addresses aren't going to be accurate, they should just leave them off. Tonight, I tried to use my Nuvi and it didn't eve

[time-nuts] Problems with Garmin - maybe we should cut them alittle slack

2010-12-31 Thread Arthur Dent
gonzo- "A GPS is a precision device. A Navigator is a consumer device. To confuse the two is to fail to understand either." A navigator IS a GPS. Surveying GPSs may use carrier phase tracking or whatever to get about 2mm accuracy. Just because it is optimized for navigation instead of locati

Re: [time-nuts] Problems with Garmin - maybe we should cut them alittle slack

2010-12-31 Thread gonzo .
A GPS is a precision device. A Navigator is a consumer device. To confuse the two is to fail to understand either. ian ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.co

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Antenna

2010-12-31 Thread Joe Leikhim
Here in Florida, I would recommend ANY external antenna or other roof mounted device be bonded to the building ground system conductor. See NEC and check Polyphazer's website for guidance. Polyphazer makes devices to protect GPS equipment as does Huber and Suhner. Be sure the device is rated to

Re: [time-nuts] Problems with Garmin - maybe we should cut them a little slack

2010-12-31 Thread J. Forster
Not only MS. Any product whose cost ofd production is trivial compared to selling price. Look at Coke... it's 99+% water. In some places it sells for $2/pint. -John == > > Hmmm, sounds like the Microsoft model. > > What did you expect for $100? > > > On 12/31/2010 12:49 PM, J. For

Re: [time-nuts] Problems with Garmin - maybe we should cut them a little slack

2010-12-31 Thread Mike Naruta AA8K
Hmmm, sounds like the Microsoft model. What did you expect for $100? On 12/31/2010 12:49 PM, J. Forster wrote: Well, I won't rant back at you, Dick, but your expectations are way off base. GPS cartographers have to designate billions (yes, billions) of addresses and the fact that they miss a

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Antenna

2010-12-31 Thread shalimr9
I have also observed the low sensitivity of the T-Bolt here. The older one (red box with built-in DC/DC converters) barely worked with the Trimble Bullet antenna I got with it, but works fine with an HP 58532A and also with a small mag-mount Trimble model. The two newer T-Bolts (group buy) appea

Re: [time-nuts] Problems with Garmin - maybe we should cut them a little slack

2010-12-31 Thread Jean-Louis Oneto
Let's look at it from another point of view: as it is, the map data store about very few points for each road (less than 10 in most cases anyway). To have correct coordinates for each number on each road (I suppose here that these data exist somewhere...) would multiply that by a factor between

Re: [time-nuts] Problems with Garmin - maybe we should cut them a little slack

2010-12-31 Thread Bob Paddock
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:18 AM, William H. Fite wrote: > Maybe we should cut these cartographers a little slack.  When you consider > that Garmin will sell you a map update of the entire northern hemisphere for > eighty bucks, we perhaps shouldn't get too wadded up if they miss the exact > locat

Re: [time-nuts] Problems with Garmin - maybe we should cut them alittle slack

2010-12-31 Thread scmcgrath
My 0.02 These SAME maps are being used in E911 and other GIS systems so the poor workmanship which is so obvious here has the potential to put lives in danger. Most of the emergency response trucks up here have GPS systems with these maps onboard - not a problem for locals but if we needed outs

Re: [time-nuts] Problems with Garmin - maybe we should cut them a little slack

2010-12-31 Thread J. Forster
> Well, I won't rant back at you, Dick, but your expectations are way off > base. GPS cartographers have to designate billions (yes, billions) of > addresses and the fact that they miss a few scarcely justifies a backhand > brushoff as "shoddy work." Look at it another way: They are producing o

Re: [time-nuts] Problems with Garmin Nuvi

2010-12-31 Thread William H. Fite
Alas, Garmin cannot run itself with a particular focus on your neighborhood or mine, something that New Yorkers have been learning about their city government this past week. Of course it is annoying when an address is off. But, in the first place, the error may have occurred long before the data

Re: [time-nuts] Problems with Garmin - maybe we should cut them a little slack

2010-12-31 Thread William H. Fite
Well, I won't rant back at you, Dick, but your expectations are way off base. GPS cartographers have to designate billions (yes, billions) of addresses and the fact that they miss a few scarcely justifies a backhand brushoff as "shoddy work." Can you have a product of this size and complexity tha

Re: [time-nuts] Problems with Garmin Nuvi

2010-12-31 Thread John Green
Quote:" Maybe we should cut these cartographers a little slack. When you consider that Garmin will sell you a map update of the entire northern hemisphere for eighty bucks, we perhaps shouldn't get too wadded up if they miss the exact location of my little bungalow by a couple of hundred feet. Af

Re: [time-nuts] Problems with Garmin - maybe we should cut them a little slack

2010-12-31 Thread Richard W. Solomon
I could not disagree with you more ... it is this acceptance of shoddy work and product that is leading us down the road to ruin. My Garmin tells me to take a right to get to my house when in fact I should go left. How simple is it to tell right from left. For the price they charge, I can almos

Re: [time-nuts] Problems with Garmin - maybe we should cut them a little slack

2010-12-31 Thread J. Forster
My concern is a major industrril building complex and all the visitors that get missdirected to the wrong end of a long road every day. -John === > Maybe we should cut these cartographers a little slack. When you consider > that Garmin will sell you a map update of the entire north

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Antenna Splitters Symmetricom 58535A Available

2010-12-31 Thread William H. Fite
Chris said: 3) Do people really run coax straight from a GPS antenna into their > house with no protection from lightening? Maybe a GPS antenna is a > small target compared to a 100 foot wire antenna in Florida > Chris, I'm in Orlando, the lightning capitol of the entire world. Here, * nothing

[time-nuts] Problems with Garmin - maybe we should cut them a little slack

2010-12-31 Thread William H. Fite
Maybe we should cut these cartographers a little slack. When you consider that Garmin will sell you a map update of the entire northern hemisphere for eighty bucks, we perhaps shouldn't get too wadded up if they miss the exact location of my little bungalow by a couple of hundred feet. After all,

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Antenna

2010-12-31 Thread paul swed
Definately nice ways to go. However if this is a hobby then TV RF splitters and satellite LNB IF line amps (LNBs IFs are .9-1.5 Ghz) also work very well. I picked up the line drivers for $2 at a typical old stock store and splitters to 2 Ghz for $1. Measured them and they are pretty good. But the r

Re: [time-nuts] Happy New Year from Melbourne UTC+10

2010-12-31 Thread Michael Poulos
swingbyte wrote: First New Year at home ( 20 week old baby ) fortunately the neighbours have let off a few fireworks. Happy New Decade, mate! (and thanks for that quirk in Strine, too!) In America, we don't "let off" fireworks, but instead "set" them off or light them off. (possibly Chicago-s

[time-nuts] GPS Antenna -Receiver Mutual Interference...

2010-12-31 Thread Arthur Dent
Burt I. Weiner- "Recently I've had need to operate with two GPS navigation systems in the same car at the same time and I've had to shield the antennas from each other, or at lease get them as far apart as practical on a car otherwise they both seem to interfere with each other and I can lose GP

Re: [time-nuts] Happy New Year from Melbourne UTC+10

2010-12-31 Thread Julien Goodwin
On 01/01/11 00:16, swingbyte wrote: > First New Year at home ( 20 week old baby ) fortunately the neighbours > have let off a few fireworks. Melbourne is, of course UTC+11 at the moment being AEDT not AEST for the summer. We had idiots with fireworks here too, as apparently did much of Melbourne.

[time-nuts] Happy New Year from Melbourne UTC+10

2010-12-31 Thread swingbyte
First New Year at home ( 20 week old baby ) fortunately the neighbours have let off a few fireworks. Tim ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the inst

Re: [time-nuts] My Garmin 18x, Ver 3.50, currently 1 second slow to UTC

2010-12-31 Thread Kasper Pedersen
On 12/31/2010 10:20 AM, Joseph Gray wrote: If I am using the NMEA data (as in the Garmin is the only time source), what firmware is recommended by all those using a GPS18x-LVC? Here are measurements on the bad versions: http://n1.taur.dk/permanent/gps18x-330-pps.jpg http://n1.taur.dk/permanent/

Re: [time-nuts] My Garmin 18x, Ver 3.50, currently 1 second slow to UTC

2010-12-31 Thread David J Taylor
If I am using the NMEA data (as in the Garmin is the only time source), what firmware is recommended by all those using a GPS18x-LVC? Joe Gray W5JG Kiwi Geoff recommended: __ http://www.gawisp.com/perry/oem_sensor/ From there I downloaded: GPS18x

Re: [time-nuts] My Garmin 18x, Ver 3.50, currently 1 second slow to UTC

2010-12-31 Thread Joseph Gray
If I am using the NMEA data (as in the Garmin is the only time source), what firmware is recommended by all those using a GPS18x-LVC? Joe Gray W5JG On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 1:52 AM, David J Taylor wrote: >> So, what is the final consensus as to which is the best firmware >> version to use for NTP

Re: [time-nuts] My Garmin 18x, Ver 3.50, currently 1 second slow to UTC

2010-12-31 Thread David J Taylor
So, what is the final consensus as to which is the best firmware version to use for NTP purposes? Joe Gray W5JG Any, providing you don't use the NMEA data to get the nearest second, but use a secondary reference source. Bit of a problem for a stand-alone system, though. I certainly would /