Re: [time-nuts] 2201A GPS

2011-04-08 Thread paul swed
WT Interesting there are at least 3 total people now that have the 2201. All on time-nuts. I have been working on my 2201 with the help of another time-nut and home brewed the antenna/downconverter. But the way I did it is really not reproducible. Unless you have a 1600 MC very stable external

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A

2011-04-08 Thread John Green
Interesting to read the comments of others who have these. I have one I got years ago, gave up on. I knew it worked because I could see the 50 something MHz inside moving around and then locking up. I finally found out how to hook RS232 up to it and reset the frequency. It couldn't be set to

Re: [time-nuts] 2201A GPS

2011-04-08 Thread Paramithiotti, Luciano Paolo S
Hi all, I have an Austron 2200 with antenna. I think is the same antenna used with 2201. Internally the converter is very simple to rebuilt with patient and time to spend. From the mainframe you have DC power, a 10 MHz fx to be multiplied for LO,and back the IF frequency. In the antenna

Re: [time-nuts] 2201A GPS

2011-04-08 Thread paul swed
Luciano, The 750 may be made up by the use of a pll and then doubled to 1500. With the information I see they never went into any detail about the converter. Just maybe you have those details. Regards On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Paramithiotti, Luciano Paolo S luciano.paramithio...@hp.com

Re: [time-nuts] 2201A GPS

2011-04-08 Thread Paramithiotti, Luciano Paolo S
Hi, The multiplier is a classic analog harmonic distortion multiplier to avoid to add phase noise with a PLL. The mixer is a two diode harmonic mixer, I suppose they use to drive it with 1/2 LO frequency due the old semiconductor thecnology available at the moment. I have the complete manual

Re: [time-nuts] 2201A GPS

2011-04-08 Thread Rob Kimberley
From what I remember from my days at Austron, antenna had 10 Mhz LO and 75 MHz IF. Rob K -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of paul swed Sent: 08 April 2011 5:04 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement

Re: [time-nuts] 2201A GPS

2011-04-08 Thread paul swed
Rob you are correct but the 10 MC is a ref for the pll. Luciano goes into more detail on the diode mixer/doubler and this makes sense. It would be simple, but would not be very sensitive. So by feeding the converter as he has with a modern antenna he gains a lot and most likely a lower frontend

Re: [time-nuts] 2201A GPS

2011-04-08 Thread Paramithiotti, Luciano Paolo S
Correct, but again : no PLL is used due high phase noise introduced by it. Monday I will be back home and I will take the manual. I can scan the schematic for you Luciano Luciano P. S. Paramithiotti IZ5JHJ -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] Realhamradio Forum

2011-04-08 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 04/07/2011 09:44 AM, Joseph Gray wrote: Does anyone know what happened to the forum at http://realhamradio.com? It has been in maintenance mode for quite some time. I know that the other web pages are still available, but the forum had additional information and discussion. Even if no new

Re: [time-nuts] 2201A GPS

2011-04-08 Thread paul swed
Interesting then it would be some form of linear multiplier chain. Thats ugly for 750 Mhz. 75 X 10 or is it actually 1500 MC and its 10 X 50 X 3. It will be interesting to see what math was used. On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Paramithiotti, Luciano Paolo S luciano.paramithio...@hp.com wrote:

[time-nuts] HP 3586 entirely referenced to 10MHz...

2011-04-08 Thread Burt I. Weiner
I forget to comment on trimming the existing crystal's frequencies: There is no adjustment provided in the 3586B for netting the crystals. We tried adding adjustment capability, but since the crystal frequency is divided down by a fair amount it would take more adjustment than the actual

Re: [time-nuts] Realhamradio Forum

2011-04-08 Thread Joseph Gray
Magnus, Thanks for the links. I did have those. I was just wondering about the forums, because AFAIR not every bit of useful information mentioned in the forums found its way to the static web pages. I'll shoot Bill an email. Joe Gray W5JG On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Magnus Danielson

[time-nuts] New GPS App.

2011-04-08 Thread J. Forster
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