Re: [time-nuts] Electronics Question

2011-07-28 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 4e30be7c.7060...@comcast.net, Steve Longcor writes: The M12 is 3V logic. I assume the net4501 is 5V logic, No, the net4501 is 3.3V. Also: COM2's TXD and RXD are available at 3.3V level in the GPIO connector. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20

[time-nuts] LightSquared again.

2011-07-28 Thread David
This might amuse, LightSquared promises to replace satellite push-to-talk kit http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07/27/lightsquared_ptt/ -- ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Electronics Question

2011-07-28 Thread Jason Rabel
Thanks for the answer Chris. I kind of figured the max232 chip would be pulling the signal and override any attempts to bypass it. To the other person a little confused. The GPS in/outputs TTL signals. The Net4501 is the same way (TTL) coming out of the CPU, but on the board there is a max232

[time-nuts] Info on Hamilton Railroad watch?

2011-07-28 Thread John Green
I know there are those who have a lot of knowledge about pocket watches and railroad watches so, I know someone with a 992B Hamilton Railroad Special, 21 jewel, lever set, with a Montgomery dial. He seems to think this is a special watch. Is it? ___

Re: [time-nuts] Electronics Question

2011-07-28 Thread Jason Rabel
Also: COM2's TXD and RXD are available at 3.3V level in the GPIO connector. Oh man I didn't know that! Time for me to take a second look at the manual. Thanks! ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Info on Hamilton Railroad watch?

2011-07-28 Thread brent evers
Any Hamilton is special in my book. Brent On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:15 AM, John Green wpxs...@gmail.com wrote: I know there are those who have a lot of knowledge about pocket watches and railroad watches so, I know someone with a 992B Hamilton Railroad Special, 21 jewel, lever set, with a

Re: [time-nuts] Anybody experienced in using a prescaler as a widebandpreamp?

2011-07-28 Thread Bob Camp
Hi To answer a slightly different question: Combining a wideband MMIC preamp and a prescaler can be tricky. It's easy to get it to work and hard to get it to work well. Finding a MMIC preamp that makes a good limiter is only one of the challenges. Bob -Original Message- From:

Re: [time-nuts] Electronics Question

2011-07-28 Thread Chris Albertson
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 6:34 AM, Jason Rabel ja...@extremeoverclocking.com wrote: . If it wasn't a TSOP chip I would have just ripped that puppy right out as you suggested Chris. TSOP is very easy to hand solder. Maybe easier than a DIP package because you don't have to flip the PCB over and

Re: [time-nuts] Info on Hamilton Railroad watch?

2011-07-28 Thread Don Latham
a quick search of yahoo groups will no doubt get you the info you seek... brent evers Any Hamilton is special in my book. Brent On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:15 AM, John Green wpxs...@gmail.com wrote: I know there are those who have a lot of knowledge about pocket watches and railroad

Re: [time-nuts] Electronics Question

2011-07-28 Thread Robert LaJeunesse
One TSOP trick: Use fine desolder braid just enough solder to bridge all the leads on one side, melt all the solder on that side, then with a pointed hobby knife lightly pry the chip up just enough to disconnect the whole row of leads.  Repeat for other side using tweezers to gently lift the

Re: [time-nuts] Info on Hamilton Railroad watch?

2011-07-28 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Posting *good* pictures to one of the watch message boards is the best way to answer the question. There are always a lot of small details that count when you try to decide if it's special or not. Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] Electronics Question

2011-07-28 Thread lists
Technically, he just has to lift the offending pins. My recollection is the transmitters invert, so that might be an issue. -Original Message- From: Robert LaJeunesse rlajeune...@sbcglobal.net Sender: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 10:08:55 To: Discussion of precise

Re: [time-nuts] European LORAN-C

2011-07-28 Thread asmagal
What a pitty! I am currently receiving the Xray/Soustons of the 6731 LESSAY chain in very good conditions (day and night). The Loran-C phase record against one of my TBolts never exceeds 50 nS and I wish I could have a predominant over-land path to investigate some possible (?!) seismic

Re: [time-nuts] Electronics Question

2011-07-28 Thread Robert LaJeunesse
Lifting a pin often causes it to break off. May as well pull the part for later reuse.  Agree on the inversion issue. One needs to be careful as 3.3V CMOS logic is usually not (or not exactly) TTL compatible. Crossing power supply boundaries means having to assure the associated pins are

Re: [time-nuts] Electronics Question

2011-07-28 Thread lists
Only lift the transmitter output. Note that by design, 232 ports can be floated. Receivers all have pull-down resistors. For much of the world today, if they have a 232 port, it is floating. A little heat and exacto knife should lift the pin just fine. I've done this before. It helps to own a

Re: [time-nuts] Info on Hamilton Railroad watch?

2011-07-28 Thread Chuck Harris
It's a nice watch, probably about the best of the best for mass production pocket watches. It is, however a mass production watch, and there are tens of thousands of them still in existence. They were built for a goodly portion of the 20th century... production stopped in the 1960's. It is one

Re: [time-nuts] Anybody experienced in using a prescaler as a wideband preamp?

2011-07-28 Thread Peter Monta
Paul Swed writes: I agree this does not make sense. There is a divider in the way so its not a preamp. I'll bite: what does a small-signal model of a prescaler look like? As a guess, it might be a (flat? highpass?) attenuator (with a great deal of loss) up to some threshold amplitude, then

Re: [time-nuts] Anybody experienced in using a prescaler as a wideband preamp?

2011-07-28 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Small signal wise a prescaler looks like a divider. Below some threshold you (hopefully) get nothing. Above that point you get various sorts of garbage (which could include self oscillation) unrelated to the input frequency. Past another point you get an increasingly solid divide out. The

Re: [time-nuts] Anybody experienced in using a prescaler as a, wideband preamp?

2011-07-28 Thread Joe Leikhim
It would probably behave as some kind of funky mixer when you feed it Fc (single carrier) and LO. But once you expose it to the real world of multiple carriers, the output would be a mishmash. I also doubt the noise figure would be useful for any useful pre-amplification. But that's with

Re: [time-nuts] 992B Hamilton

2011-07-28 Thread John Green
Thanks Chuck. That kind of information was exactly what I was looking for. Special is in the eye of the beholder. It does sound like a watch he would fancy because it would have probably been the kind of watch an engineer would have carried. Plus, it is a pretty good watch. I saw it briefly.

[time-nuts] Anyone know of a frequency comparator module or kit?

2011-07-28 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
Hello Folks, New time nut here. I have a Fluke 103A frequency comparator which I use with a Z3801 GPS to other frequency sources. At 1 time I had a bunch of HP oscillators plug ins and it was great fun to watch each of these plug ins warm up, move back and for across 10 Mhz. Finally,

Re: [time-nuts] Anybody experienced in using a prescaler as a wideband preamp?

2011-07-28 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 07/27/11 10:38 PM, Peter Krengel wrote: Hi group, I know my question is time-nuts of topics but as I know there are some really skilled GHz specialists on the group I like to ask whether somebody made experience using a prescaler MMIC (i.e. up to 12GHz) as a very wideband preamp? Thanks for