Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb: Are they that good?

2011-12-09 Thread Javier Herrero
El 09/12/2011 02:27, Peter Bell escribió: 5) Although the output is a sine wave, it's not especially nice - internally it's derived from a square wave fed into a rather simple filter circuit - having said that, none of my test gear has any problem with using it for a reference input, Regards.

[time-nuts] UK GPS jamming - February 2012

2011-12-09 Thread David J Taylor
UK GPS jamming - February 2012 I have received the following: ___ NOTIFICATION OF GPS JAMMING EXERCISES RAF SCULTHORPE AIRFIELD, EAST ANGLIA, FEBRUARY 2012 Dates: Between 6 and 10 February 2012 inclusive. Times: between 0700 and 1700 GMT.

Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb: Are they that good?

2011-12-09 Thread Marco IK1ODO -2
Javier, the plots are nice, and I did the same years ago for an Efratom FRS-C. Found about the same data. The only point is that with the spectrum analyzer you see the S/A pahse noise, not the Rb, wich has to be orders of magnitude lower. About the comments on the waveform and harmonics

Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb: Are they that good?

2011-12-09 Thread paul swed
Marco Think you are correct for most things we do. However in communications for mixing and such a sine wave is desirable and a very clean output to minimize things like IMD and other products as we get the 10 MC to its final frequency. Since you are a ham you may appreciate that. Regards Paul

[time-nuts] Oscilloquartz 5240 GPSDO

2011-12-09 Thread Gerald Molenkamp
Hi All, If anyone is ever in need of Local Management Software for the OSA 5240, drop me a private mail. Great unit at Zero cost. After config the 3RU case is equipped with 16 x BNC outputs at 10MHz 1VRMS into 50 Ohm. Regards Gerald VK3GJM

Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb: Are they that good?

2011-12-09 Thread Javier Herrero
Hello, Yes, I know that the phase noise is the spectrum analyzer one, but the spurious that are around (mostly -70, -80dBc) are not, particularly the ones at +/200kHz and +/-400kHz. I was mostly curious about the harmonics and other spurii since in this unit, 10MHz are generated from a CPLD

Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb: Are they that good?

2011-12-09 Thread Peter Bell
Getting the square wave out is easy - if you follow down the trace from that J8 socket (which is also connected to the output on the D-type) it goes to a cap - just remove that and solder a jumper across the pair of pads to the left of it (I.E. closer to the PLD). Regards, Pete On Fri, Dec 9,

[time-nuts] Anyone know anything about the Oscilloquartz GPSCU II-B ?

2011-12-09 Thread Peter Bell
Seeing that other post about an Oscilloquartz GPSDO made me wonder if anyone on here knows about these? It's a board-level product, which looks very much lile it's designed to go into some piece of telecoms equipment. Push button switch, 2 SMA connectors and a D-type on the front panel - carrier

Re: [time-nuts] Anyone know anything about the Oscilloquartz GPSCU II-B ?

2011-12-09 Thread Robin Kimberley
Can you let us have a picture? Rob Kimberley -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Peter Bell Sent: 09 December 2011 13:55 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: [time-nuts] Anyone know anything

Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb: Are they that good?

2011-12-09 Thread Marco IK1ODO -2
At 14:21 09-12-11, you wrote: Marco Think you are correct for most things we do. However in communications for mixing and such a sine wave is desirable and a very clean output to minimize things like IMD and other products as we get the 10 MC to its final frequency. Since you are a ham you may

Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb: Are they that good?

2011-12-09 Thread paul swed
Marco I understand also. But good enough for this conversation. What I find interesting is that you can not even find a good xtal these days for $40. Yet here is a complete package that delivers quite a bang for the buck. I have wavered back and forth on buying one since I already have numbers of

Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb: Are they that good?

2011-12-09 Thread EWKehren
Paul I was exactly where you are. The last thing I needed was an other Rb. But an Rb at $ 40 I did bite the bullet and running the tests I do not regret it. Bert Kehren In a message dated 12/9/2011 10:11:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, paulsw...@gmail.com writes: Marco I understand

Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb: Are they that good?

2011-12-09 Thread paul swed
I understand Bert. But you wanted to test it. I actually don't have a real reason grab one of these jewels. Though understanding when the piles gone, its gone. Thats the way it works on this stuff. But I have 6 of the old cel site Lucent RBs all $20 and a Good HP 5065 and then last spring a lpro

Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb: Are they that good?

2011-12-09 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
I've ordered one. Meanwhile, my Racal-Dana 1992 soldiers on nicely. The attached is a gnuplot of a few days' measurements of the Trimble Thunderbolt's 10 MHz output. -- Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R c...@omen.com www.omen.com Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications

Re: [time-nuts] Anyone know anything about the Oscilloquartz GPSCU II-B ?

2011-12-09 Thread Peter Bell
I guess I need somewhere to upload it, since the file size restriction on the list makes it impossible to get any detail... This should give you a vague idea, anyway. Regards, Pete On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Robin Kimberley robkimber...@btinternet.com wrote: Can you let us have a

Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb: Are they that good?

2011-12-09 Thread Marco IK1ODO -2
At 18:23 09-12-11, Javier wrote: I think that the low-band preselector (I don't remember the model) was more oriented to increase the dynamic range for EMC testing, rather than due to a crappy harmonic response of the analyzer. It also includes a preamplifier. Correct. 85685A, a very

Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb: Are they that good?

2011-12-09 Thread Javier Herrero
El 09/12/2011 18:54, Marco IK1ODO -2 escribió: At 18:23 09-12-11, Javier wrote: I think that the low-band preselector (I don't remember the model) was more oriented to increase the dynamic range for EMC testing, rather than due to a crappy harmonic response of the analyzer. It also includes

Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb: Are they that good?

2011-12-09 Thread Bob Smither
Bob Smither wrote: Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: The price seems reasonable, esp. with free shipping. Does anyone have experience with these? Is the circuit board included? I could not resist at $40.00 delivered. Mine has been running for a couple of weeks, but my measurements have

[time-nuts] Time in the 10,000-Year Clock

2011-12-09 Thread Rob Seaman
I noticed that the topic of the Long Now 10,000-year clock came up here last month. A paper on its timekeeping issues will be published in the proceedings of Decoupling Civil Timekeeping from Earth Rotation, a meeting held in Pennsylvania in October: http://futureofutc.org The

Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb: Are they that good?

2011-12-09 Thread Bob Smither
Bob Smither wrote: snip My documentation states that the full range of adjustment is: 7f ff ff ff = +383 Hz 80 00 00 00 = -383 Hz This scale factor is clearly wrong - using it and applying an appropriate correction changes the frequency way too much. From: