Re: [time-nuts] Tracking NTP displacement and correlationbetweentwo clients.

2012-10-05 Thread David J Taylor
David, The problem is that they start in sync and over the course of a day drift that far apart despite having NTP running. We're not sure why NTP isn't correcting it along the way. Though at this point, we are looking at a firmware bug. Thanks! Bob === Bob,

Re: [time-nuts] Best counter setting for ADEV?

2012-10-05 Thread Azelio Boriani
OK, now I understand: you are not interested in anything less than 100K seconds with your 1nS counter. Taking samples every 100K seconds from very stable sources with a 1nS counter hides the entire step between (for example) a 1E-14 and 2E-14. You can't see 1.1E-14, 1.2E-14, 1.3E-14 but, yes, you

Re: [time-nuts] Best counter setting for ADEV?

2012-10-05 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Yes, that's it exactly. I knew we must be talking about to different things... Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Azelio Boriani Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 5:25 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency

[time-nuts] Oscillator coupling

2012-10-05 Thread Marco IK1ODO -2
Very nice experiment on oscillator coupling: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2012/10/01/you-are-getting-sleeepy/ Quite time-nuts style, I would say. Marco IK1ODO ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe,

Re: [time-nuts] Oscillator coupling

2012-10-05 Thread Jean-Louis Oneto
Hi, A long time ago (~1955), when mechanical watches were the only sort on the market, and pocket watch (onions) were not only a curiosity, I remember seeing in watchmaker showcase several of them suspended by their ring on little hooks, and the coupling was enough to make the oscillate in

Re: [time-nuts] Tracking NTP displacement and correlationbetweentwo clients.

2012-10-05 Thread Christopher Brown
That is his point. Initial time comes from MB clock. System (OS) time is set from that at boot. During NTP startup for a client it is normal to do a ntpdate to hard set the OS clock (direct one time set). From there ntpd would track and adjust. HOWEVER, there are limits to how much ntpd will

Re: [time-nuts] Tracking NTP displacement and correlation betweentwo clients.

2012-10-05 Thread Hal Murray
bow...@gmail.com said: The problem is that they start in sync and over the course of a day drift that far apart despite having NTP running. We're not sure why NTP isn't correcting it along the way. Though at this point, we are looking at a firmware bug. I wouldn't think of it as two systems

Re: [time-nuts] Tracking NTP displacement and correlationbetweentwo clients.

2012-10-05 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 10/05/2012 08:23 PM, Christopher Brown wrote: That is his point. Initial time comes from MB clock. System (OS) time is set from that at boot. During NTP startup for a client it is normal to do a ntpdate to hard set the OS clock (direct one time set). From there ntpd would track and

Re: [time-nuts] Tracking NTP displacement and correlation betweentwo clients.

2012-10-05 Thread bownes
Comments inline. On Oct 5, 2012, at 18:26, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: bow...@gmail.com said: The problem is that they start in sync and over the course of a day drift that far apart despite having NTP running. We're not sure why NTP isn't correcting it along the way.

Re: [time-nuts] There are a couple CSACs for sale

2012-10-05 Thread brent evers
Hmmm - was just poking through leapsecond.com's /pages section. Noticed a folder 'csac' dated Oct 3, 2012. Guessing there will be some plots/test results in a little bit?? Early xmas? Brent On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Azelio Boriani azelio.bori...@screen.it wrote: Just sold. It was not

[time-nuts] Thought experiment on a low cost timing board

2012-10-05 Thread Robert Darby
Alberto, I have been reading the time-nuts archives and ran across a Feb 25, 2006 post where you mention you coded a GPSDO for an Atmel AT90s8535. Is that code still available and could I please get a copy of it. Also, if you have a schematic I would like to see same if possible. Thanks,

Re: [time-nuts] There are a couple CSACs for sale

2012-10-05 Thread Tom Van Baak
Hmmm - was just poking through leapsecond.com's /pages section. Noticed a folder 'csac' dated Oct 3, 2012. Guessing there will be some plots/test results in a little bit?? Early xmas? Brent Brent, Yes, I added that folder a few days ago when Kevin mentioned the CSAC GPSDO. The data