[time-nuts] Are serial port headers standardized?

2012-10-20 Thread Sarah White
I've done enough reading to know that continuing to use this navigation (NOT timing mode) GPS is not an option. Initially, I was pleased to find out that the old RS232 (serial) --- USB adapter I pulled out of storage uses the same prolific 2303 USB-serial driver ... At least at first I was.

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3805A com port and monitoring questions

2012-10-20 Thread David I. Emery
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:47:30AM -0500, Edgardo Molina wrote: Dear David, Yes, I bought the same unit as you. I will come back to you tomorrow with some serial number information. I found mine is a DTE with TXD on pin 2... RXD on pin 3. Seems to like 9600,8,n,1

Re: [time-nuts] Are serial port headers standardized?

2012-10-20 Thread Sarah White
3x corrections: 1) Page 11, there is a yellow pinout header labeled 15 2) I think I tossed the serial port cables (headers are on the MB) 3) clarification... USB-type GPS uses the same driver as an actual USB-serial adapter does: ((...snip...))

Re: [time-nuts] Are serial port headers standardized?

2012-10-20 Thread Peter Bell
If it's one of those 10-pin 0.1 pitch IDC headers with only 9 pins installed then the vast majority of them have the same pinout - which is designed to match with a 9-pin D-type connector using a straight cable. If you have access to a meter then a quick confidence check is to verify that the pin

Re: [time-nuts] Are serial port headers standardized?

2012-10-20 Thread Hal Murray
kuze...@gmail.com said: Supposedly, normal serial ports have less trouble with latency than anything done over USB. I definitely have an annoying 590 (ish) millisecond delay when using the NMEA driver on my NTP daemon, ... USB delays and jitter are on the order of 1 ms. Things like 590 ms

Re: [time-nuts] Are serial port headers standardized?

2012-10-20 Thread Azelio Boriani
Usually a crimp type DB9 can be wired directly to the crimp type IDC connector, leaving out the pin 10 of the IDC, it is missing in the header. But, yes, better to test as indicated by Peter. On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: kuze...@gmail.com said:

Re: [time-nuts] : L1 GPS timing signal(s) into local time on computer(s)

2012-10-20 Thread Jim Lux
On 8/21/12 9:53 AM, Sarah White wrote: Wow. Okay. The user manual actual considers this cable delay to be worth mention? I can see why the trimble thunderbolt is a favorite among time nuts 3 I'm sold. Cable time offset is in basically all GPSes. An awful lot of GPS receivers (for timing)

Re: [time-nuts] Are serial port headers standardized?

2012-10-20 Thread Sarah White
On 10/20/2012 7:48 AM, Azelio Boriani wrote: Usually a crimp type DB9 can be wired directly to the crimp type IDC connector, leaving out the pin 10 of the IDC, it is missing in the header. But, yes, better to test as indicated by Peter. ((...snip...)) o - This pin should be ground o o

Re: [time-nuts] Are serial port headers standardized?

2012-10-20 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The IDC to 9 pin cables are a generic / cheap item on eBay or from Newegg. Less than $3 delivered last time I needed any. Bob On Oct 20, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Sarah White kuze...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/20/2012 7:48 AM, Azelio Boriani wrote: Usually a crimp type DB9 can be wired directly to

Re: [time-nuts] Are serial port headers standardized?

2012-10-20 Thread Sarah White
On 10/20/2012 10:06 AM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi The IDC to 9 pin cables are a generic / cheap item on eBay or from Newegg. Less than $3 delivered last time I needed any. Bob ((...snip...)) Motherboard manual said: Connect one side of a switching cable to the header and then attach the serial

Re: [time-nuts] Are serial port headers standardized?

2012-10-20 Thread Bob Camp
Hi If I remember correctly IDC = insulation displacement connector. It's the term for the type of connector you smash onto a ribbon cable. You can indeed buy the cable, the D-Conn's and the end that goes to the motherboard. Sit down with a vise and make up your own cables. Lots of fun.

Re: [time-nuts] Efratom FRK and M100 question

2012-10-20 Thread Bob Camp
Hi I have an FRK that does the same thing. My suspicion is that the lamp drive oscillator / drive coil tuning cap needs to be re-peaked. It's one of many items on my to do list. Bob On Oct 19, 2012, at 9:41 PM, cdel...@juno.com wrote: Bill, When plugged in cold and after the lamp starts

Re: [time-nuts] Are serial port headers standardized?

2012-10-20 Thread Dennis Ferguson
On 20 Oct, 2012, at 02:05 , Sarah White kuze...@gmail.com wrote: Page 15, there is a yellow 10 (9) pin header, and page 26 was what I quoted. Really wish there was more information... I've had this motherboard for something like 5 years at this point, and am fairly certain I lost or outright

Re: [time-nuts] Are serial port headers standardized?

2012-10-20 Thread Sarah White
On 10/20/2012 11:56 AM, Dennis Ferguson wrote: On 20 Oct, 2012, at 02:05 , Sarah White kuze...@gmail.com wrote: Page 15, there is a yellow 10 (9) pin header, and page 26 was what I quoted. Really wish there was more information... I've had this motherboard for something like 5 years at this

Re: [time-nuts] Are serial port headers standardized?

2012-10-20 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 10/20/2012 04:15 PM, Sarah White wrote: On 10/20/2012 10:06 AM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi The IDC to 9 pin cables are a generic / cheap item on eBay or from Newegg. Less than $3 delivered last time I needed any. Bob ((...snip...)) Motherboard manual said: Connect one side of a switching cable

Re: [time-nuts] HP-5065A frequency adjustment advise and Common (all in) view GPS comparisons proposal.

2012-10-20 Thread Magnus Danielson
Dear Edgardo, On 10/19/2012 11:06 PM, Edgardo Molina wrote: Dear Group, Good afternoon. I just realized that my two HP 5065As have been running for about a month and their operation has been closely monitored. Now I assume both clocks are stabilized. I want to start doing some phase and time

Re: [time-nuts] Are serial port headers standardized?

2012-10-20 Thread Bob Camp
Hi I do believe I can top that one :) Back in the 70's (do I need to mention jobs …) these were already an established item. Before that point (as in back in school … don't ask when that was) I spent some time modeling the charismatic impedance of the connector plus cable combination. Turns

Re: [time-nuts] Are serial port headers standardized?

2012-10-20 Thread Chris Albertson
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Sarah White kuze...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815158115 ... That's my only real question. What nonsense were they referring to? Connect one side of a switching cable to the header and then attach the serial COM

Re: [time-nuts] Are serial port headers standardized?

2012-10-20 Thread Joseph Gray
I have seen at least three types over the years. The straight IDC crimp on both ends is the easiest and fairly common. Also common is the one with IDC on the motherboard end and a solder cup DB-9 on the other. In these, I mostly saw the wires soldered to alternate rows on the DB-9 (top, bottom,