Re: [time-nuts] GPS Patch Antenna Electrode Tarnish

2013-01-11 Thread Hal Murray
i...@blackmountainforge.com said: The reason that silver is used is that the oxide is also a very good conductor. That's interesting. Does anybody have numbers to back it up? I poked around a bit but didn't find anything. My memory (from ages ago) is that RF gear is often gold plated

[time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread J. L. Trantham
Not sure where to ask this question but thought I would start here. Is there a way to connect a parallel port to a computer via USB? Not a device that shows up as 'USB Print Support' but, instead, shows up in Device Manager as an LPT port? I have been able to do it via PCMCIA to Parallel

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 018101cdeffc$d5239b50$7f6ad1f0$@att.net, J. L. Trantham writes: Is there a way to connect a parallel port to a computer via USB? Yes, USB to LPT adapters are a comodity item, although I suspect they are getting a bit of old stuff we no longer carry these days. You should be

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Patch Antenna Electrode Tarnish

2013-01-11 Thread Chuck Harris
The thing is that it has long been known that the black tarnish that forms on silver is silver sulfide. I have noticed that most of the unwashed masses think that anything that corrodes, or discolors a metal is a rust, or oxide... even when it isn't. Silver oxide is not formed easily. It

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread shalimr9
Joe, It just so happen I have a never used USB-printer port adapter (with the Centronics connector). There is no driver for it, I believe the driver comes with Windows. You are welcome to it. Didier Sent from my Droid Razr 4G LTE wireless tracker. -Original Message- From: J. L.

Re: [time-nuts] Interval Timer Recommendation

2013-01-11 Thread Chris Howard
The manual states that loosing the settings on a 6680 is no big problem , but on the 6681 you loose the interpolator calibtation. And it sounds like that's not a good thing. I didn't know you had to watch out for Battery on a PM6680/81. CFO - Tnut-Beginner Denmark Would loss of

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread Nathaniel Bezanson
J. L. Trantham wrote: Is there a way to connect a parallel port to a computer via USB? Not a device that shows up as 'USB Print Support' but, instead, shows up in Device Manager as an LPT port? I have been able to do it via PCMCIA to Parallel Port adapters but I have never found a USB

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread J. L. Trantham
Didier, Thanks for the offer but what I need is the DB25 connector. Joe -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of shali...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 8:40 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread Jeroen Bastemeijer
Dear Joe, Be aware, the parallel printer ports are not a substitute for the LPT port! My experience is that only two things work: 1. A PCI card in your PC to add a LPT port (cost around 15 Euro) 2. Homebrew LPT ports. If my memory serves me well there was a design in the June or July/August

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread Jim Lux
On 1/11/13 7:00 AM, Nathaniel Bezanson wrote: J. L. Trantham wrote: Is there a way to connect a parallel port to a computer via USB? Not a device that shows up as 'USB Print Support' but, instead, shows up in Device Manager as an LPT port? I have been able to do it via PCMCIA to Parallel Port

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread paul swed
As mentioned the real answer is no unfortunately. I used to use raw printer bits for all kinds of stuff. Not anymore. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: On 1/11/13 7:00 AM, Nathaniel Bezanson wrote: J. L. Trantham wrote: Is there a way

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread Alan Melia
I dont have the reference in front of me but it might just be worth checking the article archive for the Elektor magazine.I have a vague feeing I might have seen something there. Many of their past projects have used the LPT as a programmable port. There should be an article index on their

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread Chris Albertson
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 5:09 AM, J. L. Trantham jlt...@att.net wrote: My goal is to connect a parallel port chip programmer via USB but the software only looks for LPT ports. It works with PCMCIA to parallel port adapters but I haven't solved the puzzle yet with a USB connected device. I

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread GandalfG8
Hi Joe As per other replies I was going to suggest this won't work because USB adapters are for printing only and my solution would be to buy an old 486 or early pentium laptop and use that, I've bought several over the past few years for really silly money on Ebay for this very reason,

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread Mark Spencer
Joe: I've been down this road and ended up buying two lease return HP desktops for a nominal price that included on board parallel ports to deal with some amateur radio gear required a real parallel port. As others have mentioned there are fairly recent IBM / Lenovo laptops that also featured

Re: [time-nuts] Interval Timer Recommendation

2013-01-11 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 01/11/2013 03:51 PM, Chris Howard wrote: The manual states that loosing the settings on a 6680 is no big problem , but on the 6681 you loose the interpolator calibtation. And it sounds like that's not a good thing. I didn't know you had to watch out for Battery on a PM6680/81. CFO -

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread Jim Stephens
On 1/11/2013 8:46 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 5:09 AM, J. L. Trantham jlt...@att.net wrote: My goal is to connect a parallel port chip programmer via USB but the software only looks for LPT ports. It works with PCMCIA to parallel port adapters but I haven't solved the

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread David McGaw
I have looked into this at length without success. It appears that the parallel port was orphaned in the USB definition and an emulation can only support printers. Scanners, software key dongles and other parallel port devices are not and apparently cannot be supported. An adapter may say

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread Rick Karlquist
Mark Spencer wrote: Joe: I've been down this road and ended up buying two lease return HP desktops for a nominal price that included on board parallel ports to deal with some amateur radio gear required a real parallel port. As others have mentioned there are fairly recent IBM / Lenovo

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread David McGaw
Those should be real ports. They probably connect through the PCI buss as a PCMCIA card would. For those looking to PCMCIA/Card Bus, be careful. There ARE cheap cards that connect through USB rather than PCI. The true PCI cards DO work. David On 1/11/13 2:42 PM, Rick Karlquist wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread Chris Albertson
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Mark Spencer mspencer12...@yahoo.cawrote: Joe: I've been down this road and ended up buying two lease return HP desktops for a nominal price that included on board parallel ports to deal with some amateur radio gear required a real parallel port. I bought

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread Oz-in-DFW
On 1/11/2013 7:09 AM, J. L. Trantham wrote: Not sure where to ask this question but thought I would start here. Is there a way to connect a parallel port to a computer via USB? Not a device that shows up as 'USB Print Support' but, instead, shows up in Device Manager as an LPT port? I

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread Bob Camp
Hi There are Atom based motherboards that still have true parallel ports on them. They come out to a DB-25, but are otherwise just like the old ones. Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of David McGaw Sent: Friday,

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread ct1dmk
Yes it exists, and does exactly what you want: your applications see a 'real' LPT port that you can write/read at low level like it was a real hardware port. It has a DB25 connector on the end. I have two of them, they work great. I tried old prom programmers and lots of small PLL loaders etc

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread David
My solution was similar. I have a few old systems that work fine and have serial and parallel ports. For my more recent workstations, I add a PCI or PCIe serial/parallel port adapter if needed. On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 12:03:48 -0500 (EST), gandal...@aol.com wrote: Hi Joe As per other replies I

Re: [time-nuts] Interval Timer Recommendation

2013-01-11 Thread Azelio Boriani
The PM6685 is a frequency counter, not a TIC, so it shouldn't suffer from the battery problem. On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: On 01/11/2013 03:51 PM, Chris Howard wrote: The manual states that loosing the settings on a 6680 is no big

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread ct1dmk
Hi Nigel, I missed your post before my reply to Joe, so I made no mention to your suggestion. I have those and they are not a printer thing, they really work low level. The list of programmers and bit oriented stuff that was reported to work well is big and surely there are more stuff that

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread ct1dmk
Yes, there are standard devices that do this. $10 from Newegg if you are in the US (and it looks like you are.) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812186125nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwordscm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-NA-_-NAgclid=CPGX2bqK4bQCFemiPAodDXcAzQ I've tested a few

Re: [time-nuts] Interval Timer Recommendation

2013-01-11 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 01/11/2013 09:09 PM, Azelio Boriani wrote: The PM6685 is a frequency counter, not a TIC, so it shouldn't suffer from the battery problem. It's single shot resolution would still be from the interpolator, even if you measure on the same signal. Cheers, Magnus

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist ?

2013-01-11 Thread Mark Spencer
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Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread GandalfG8
Hi Luis No problem, and it's much better anyway to hear from someone who's used it:-) I only took a quick look at the web site before and didn't see the self build instructions at that time, but having seen the SMD chip he's using I think asking for a price might be safer:-) I see from

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread Ed Palmer
A couple of years ago I bought an Intel Atom Dual Core board. It's equipped with 2 com ports and 1 LPT port. A quick check at Newegg.com shows that most, but not all, Atom boards (regardless of brand) still include one or two COM ports and 1 LPT port. So, for somewhere around $100 or less

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread Bob Camp
Hi I think the answer to the Atom puzzle is that the standard Southbridge chip has an LPT port in it. More or less they get it for the price of the connector or board header plus maybe a few protection devices. Bob On Jan 11, 2013, at 9:18 PM, Ed Palmer ed_pal...@sasktel.net wrote: A couple

[time-nuts] Vectron GPSDO Oscillator stranges...

2013-01-11 Thread Burt I. Weiner
Just to give the group and update... The Caritronic switching supply in the DATUM 9390 completely failed this afternoon, so obviously it was on its last leg. I did find Caritronics and they are very nice people, but expensive. My friend Stu, K6YAZ told me he had a Cisco power supply model

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Patch Antenna Electrode Tarnish

2013-01-11 Thread Attila Kinali
On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 01:25:55 -0800 Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: How much of the crap on exposed silver is oxide vs sulfide? Given the very low amount of sulfur and sulfur compounts in the air, i'd say you've mostly silver oxide. If you are living in an area with heavy traffic