Re: [time-nuts] HP5065B !!!

2013-04-29 Thread Bruce Griffiths
That paper appeared to describe how a laser is used to replace the rubidium lamp more completely than later papers that achieved better results. I should have also included links to later papers that better illustrate the performance that can be achieved. Bruce ewkeh...@aol.com wrote: I neve

Re: [time-nuts] HP5065B !!!

2013-04-29 Thread paul swed
I have to agree that the subjects really drifted. I am very excited about what seems like a reasonable effort to improve the 5065. Since I have one all the more interest. So I want to hear about the reflectors and concentrators and how they were added and then how the system may have been retuned t

Re: [time-nuts] HP5065B !!!

2013-04-29 Thread EWKehren
I never came to that conclusion. There is enough work out there with results. My comment was to that particular paper that did not measure up to the work Corby has been doing. Still trying to figure out the purpose of the posting. Bert Kehren In a message dated 4/29/2013 6:34:24 P.M. Ea

Re: [time-nuts] HP5065B !!!

2013-04-29 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Since performance improves as the bandwidth of the "lamp" spectrum decreases its not unreasonble to suggest that a suitable laser source may improve performance further. The following paper (and theoretical considerations) indicate that your conclusions regarding the potential performance of a

Re: [time-nuts] HP5065B !!!

2013-04-29 Thread EWKehren
I am still sitting here trying to figure out the purpose of posting the article on laser diode pumping of the Rb. One look at the data and it is clear that Corby’s work far surpasses the data shown in the paper. All it does is distract from Corb’s accomplishments. Lets be clear, Corby has o

Re: [time-nuts] laser locking

2013-04-29 Thread Paul Boven
Hi John, On 04/29/2013 08:16 AM, John Pease wrote: I'm asking mostly out of interest, because i have no clue how this is done. Although i've read many papers on laser spectroscopy and how to acheive even better atomic clocks using lasers, none of those papers mentiones how to get the laser there

[time-nuts] laser locking

2013-04-29 Thread cdelect
Attila, When researching ways to improve the 5065A (AKA the SUPER 5065A) I considered using a laser. However the long term operation is hard to optimize. Tuning the laser is a combination of temperature and current to select the proper line. (and optics if you use a grating tuning) It's cumbers

Re: [time-nuts] (Datum) FTS-4040A cesium, and STEL-1173 NCO chip

2013-04-29 Thread Tom Knox
Hi Stu; Interesting, I have a problem Datum 4040A as well. I purchased it several years ago and when it fail to work correctly I put it aside. I wonder if mine has the same problem, I find your assessment that the STEL-1173 is problematic interesting. I have found over the years that certain m

Re: [time-nuts] laser locking

2013-04-29 Thread J. Forster
Here is a start: http://www.npl.co.uk/upload/pdf/9608%20-%20A0%20Poster2%20v4%20Final%20lr.pdf -John > I'm asking mostly out of interest, because i have no clue how this > is done. Although i've read many papers on laser spectroscopy and > how to acheive even better atomic cl

Re: [time-nuts] (Datum) FTS-4040A cesium, and STEL-1173 NCO chip

2013-04-29 Thread Javier Herrero
Hello, These people seems to have them availabe at single quantities for $65... perhaps not in the right packaging: http://www.questcomp.com/questdetails.aspx?pn=STEL-1173%2FCL&pnid=372732&stock=Yes (I've never purchased from them... si I cannot encourage or discourage :) ) Regards, Javier

[time-nuts] (Datum) FTS-4040A cesium, and STEL-1173 NCO chip

2013-04-29 Thread Stewart Cobb
Guys, I'm working on a sick FTS-4040A cesium frequency reference, which is basically a box and power supply wrapped around the FTS-5045 cesium beam module. (Datum bought FTS, then Symmetricom bought Datum, but this 1995 device is too old to appear on the Symmetricom website. This was one of the