Re: [time-nuts] Loran
No sign of Loran signals on 100 KHz here. On 11/13/2013 07:06 PM, paul swed wrote: Well lets see. Just warming up the srs700. UrsaNav must have received some support $ Regards Paul WB8TSL On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:59 PM, Rich and Marcia Putz rp...@bnin.netwrote: Hi all; For any one interested, Loran's back up again. Sounding good in northern Indiana. Rich ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX c...@omen.com www.omen.com Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications Omen Technology Inc The High Reliability Software 10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231 503-614-0430 ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Loran
What GRI are they using Sent from my iPhone On Nov 13, 2013, at 8:59 PM, Rich and Marcia Putz rp...@bnin.net wrote: Hi all; For any one interested, Loran's back up again. Sounding good in northern Indiana. Rich ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Loran
Well lets see. Just warming up the srs700. UrsaNav must have received some support $ Regards Paul WB8TSL Paul, See below, via Adobe OCR on a JPG press release: --- From: UrsaNav Press Contact Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 10:31 AM Subject: UrsaNav Accepts eLoran Transmitter from Nautel UrsaNav News Release November 14, 2013 Two Companies - One Dream UrsaNav Accepts Delivery of First Production Nautel NlAO eLoran Transmitter Bedford, Massachusetts, USA.- After extensive Final Acceptance Testing at Nautel's Hackett's Cove, NS facility, UrsaNav has accepted delivery of the first production NL40 Loran-C and Enhanced Loran (eLoran) transmitter. This seventh generation Loran transmitter technology is the culmination of over six years of collaborative development between the two companies. The transmitter successfully met or exceeded all of the requirements of the u.s. Coast Guard Specification of the Transmitted Loran-C Signal. Testing was conducted into a simulated antenna matching the characteristics of a u.s. Coast Guard standard 625-foot Top-Loaded Monopole. The NL-Series transmitters are capable of transmitting Loran-C, eLoran, Chayka, and eChayka in any combination at power levels exceeding one megawatt. They are qualified for today, and prepared for tomorrow. UrsaNav's President, Charles Schue, shown accepting the transmitter from Nautel's President, Peter Conlon, commented: Resilient PNT begins with complementary technologies, layered one upon the other in such a way that the user is ensured improved continuity of operations over a sole-source solution. eLoran is the terrestrial coprimary complement to GNSS, and our technology makes eLoran the most economical, efficient, and wide-area alternative when GNSS is not available. UrsaNav provides the world's most advanced solutions for Low Frequency Alternative Positioning, Navigation, Timing, and Data, including high-performance eLoran Receiver, Command and Control, and Differential Loran technology. We are the exclusive, global, reseller of Nautel's industry-leading, high-power, Low Frequency transmitters for Loran/eLoran and Chayka/eChayka. --- ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic Sortof: Board Rework Stations
John: We have one at work. It basically works as represented. It takes some skill to run, and takes some time to develop the safe settings for soldering different sized items. It puts out a tremendous amount of infrared heat, and you can melt things if you are not careful. For instance, it will melt plastic connectors close to the part being reworked. You want to use it in a well ventilated area. It heats the board to be reworked from the underside to close to solder temperature, then uses infrared from the top side to push the temperature for the part in question above solder melting temp., and sometimes things close by. The underside heater is covered with silicon rubber, and gives off strong odor when hot. Hot PCB boards give off strong odors, and of course, you are melting solder and flux. So, good ventilation is highly recommended. You will need to practice on a few scrap boards before you try to solder something valuable. In the hands of a skilled operator, it does beautiful work. --- Graham == On 11/13/2013 9:00 PM, John C. Westmoreland, P.E. wrote: Hello All, I was wondering if anyone on this list has used the T862++ rework stations on the PCB's you work on - http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dtoolsfield-keywords=t862%2B%2Brh=n%3A228013%2Ck%3At862%2B%2B Are these as good as advertised? Thanks In Advance, John Westmoreland ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Loran
Oh that is indeed interesting that they are moving forward. The GRI is 89700. SRS700 locked and looking good. Just brought the Austron 2100 and 2100F on line. The 2100 is tied to the local RB and the f is tied to the HP3801. The SRS700 looks at the RB. I pulled the Austron 2000 out of the rack several months ago. Needed the space. Regards Paul WB8TSL. Near Boston. On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Tom Van Baak t...@leapsecond.com wrote: Well lets see. Just warming up the srs700. UrsaNav must have received some support $ Regards Paul WB8TSL Paul, See below, via Adobe OCR on a JPG press release: --- From: UrsaNav Press Contact Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 10:31 AM Subject: UrsaNav Accepts eLoran Transmitter from Nautel UrsaNav News Release November 14, 2013 Two Companies - One Dream UrsaNav Accepts Delivery of First Production Nautel NlAO eLoran Transmitter Bedford, Massachusetts, USA.- After extensive Final Acceptance Testing at Nautel's Hackett's Cove, NS facility, UrsaNav has accepted delivery of the first production NL40 Loran-C and Enhanced Loran (eLoran) transmitter. This seventh generation Loran transmitter technology is the culmination of over six years of collaborative development between the two companies. The transmitter successfully met or exceeded all of the requirements of the u.s. Coast Guard Specification of the Transmitted Loran-C Signal. Testing was conducted into a simulated antenna matching the characteristics of a u.s. Coast Guard standard 625-foot Top-Loaded Monopole. The NL-Series transmitters are capable of transmitting Loran-C, eLoran, Chayka, and eChayka in any combination at power levels exceeding one megawatt. They are qualified for today, and prepared for tomorrow. UrsaNav's President, Charles Schue, shown accepting the transmitter from Nautel's President, Peter Conlon, commented: Resilient PNT begins with complementary technologies, layered one upon the other in such a way that the user is ensured improved continuity of operations over a sole-source solution. eLoran is the terrestrial coprimary complement to GNSS, and our technology makes eLoran the most economical, efficient, and wide-area alternative when GNSS is not available. UrsaNav provides the world's most advanced solutions for Low Frequency Alternative Positioning, Navigation, Timing, and Data, including high-performance eLoran Receiver, Command and Control, and Differential Loran technology. We are the exclusive, global, reseller of Nautel's industry-leading, high-power, Low Frequency transmitters for Loran/eLoran and Chayka/eChayka. --- ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic Sortof: Board Rework Stations
Graham, Thanks - good info. On eBay you can get these for ~$250.00 - depending on whether it is the T-862 or T-862++. So I guess that is a pretty good buy. Best Regards, John AJ6BC On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Graham / KE9H time...@austin.rr.comwrote: John: We have one at work. It basically works as represented. It takes some skill to run, and takes some time to develop the safe settings for soldering different sized items. It puts out a tremendous amount of infrared heat, and you can melt things if you are not careful. For instance, it will melt plastic connectors close to the part being reworked. You want to use it in a well ventilated area. It heats the board to be reworked from the underside to close to solder temperature, then uses infrared from the top side to push the temperature for the part in question above solder melting temp., and sometimes things close by. The underside heater is covered with silicon rubber, and gives off strong odor when hot. Hot PCB boards give off strong odors, and of course, you are melting solder and flux. So, good ventilation is highly recommended. You will need to practice on a few scrap boards before you try to solder something valuable. In the hands of a skilled operator, it does beautiful work. --- Graham == On 11/13/2013 9:00 PM, John C. Westmoreland, P.E. wrote: Hello All, I was wondering if anyone on this list has used the T862++ rework stations on the PCB's you work on - http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias% 3Dtoolsfield-keywords=t862%2B%2Brh=n%3A228013%2Ck%3At862%2B%2B Are these as good as advertised? Thanks In Advance, John Westmoreland ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Loran
What's the signal strength like? -John === Oh that is indeed interesting that they are moving forward. The GRI is 89700. SRS700 locked and looking good. Just brought the Austron 2100 and 2100F on line. The 2100 is tied to the local RB and the f is tied to the HP3801. The SRS700 looks at the RB. I pulled the Austron 2000 out of the rack several months ago. Needed the space. Regards Paul WB8TSL. Near Boston. On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Tom Van Baak t...@leapsecond.com wrote: Well lets see. Just warming up the srs700. UrsaNav must have received some support $ Regards Paul WB8TSL Paul, See below, via Adobe OCR on a JPG press release: --- From: UrsaNav Press Contact Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 10:31 AM Subject: UrsaNav Accepts eLoran Transmitter from Nautel UrsaNav News Release November 14, 2013 Two Companies - One Dream UrsaNav Accepts Delivery of First Production Nautel NlAO eLoran Transmitter Bedford, Massachusetts, USA.- After extensive Final Acceptance Testing at Nautel's Hackett's Cove, NS facility, UrsaNav has accepted delivery of the first production NL40 Loran-C and Enhanced Loran (eLoran) transmitter. This seventh generation Loran transmitter technology is the culmination of over six years of collaborative development between the two companies. The transmitter successfully met or exceeded all of the requirements of the u.s. Coast Guard Specification of the Transmitted Loran-C Signal. Testing was conducted into a simulated antenna matching the characteristics of a u.s. Coast Guard standard 625-foot Top-Loaded Monopole. The NL-Series transmitters are capable of transmitting Loran-C, eLoran, Chayka, and eChayka in any combination at power levels exceeding one megawatt. They are qualified for today, and prepared for tomorrow. UrsaNav's President, Charles Schue, shown accepting the transmitter from Nautel's President, Peter Conlon, commented: Resilient PNT begins with complementary technologies, layered one upon the other in such a way that the user is ensured improved continuity of operations over a sole-source solution. eLoran is the terrestrial coprimary complement to GNSS, and our technology makes eLoran the most economical, efficient, and wide-area alternative when GNSS is not available. UrsaNav provides the world's most advanced solutions for Low Frequency Alternative Positioning, Navigation, Timing, and Data, including high-performance eLoran Receiver, Command and Control, and Differential Loran technology. We are the exclusive, global, reseller of Nautel's industry-leading, high-power, Low Frequency transmitters for Loran/eLoran and Chayka/eChayka. --- ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic Sortof: Board Rework Stations
Hi If you look at the eBay listings they mention in some of them that what they are selling is “without lenses”. My impression was that you needed to focus the IR (like with a lens) to really get it to work well. I did not dig far enough to sort that part out. Bob On Nov 14, 2013, at 6:41 PM, John C. Westmoreland, P.E. j...@westmorelandengineering.com wrote: Graham, Thanks - good info. On eBay you can get these for ~$250.00 - depending on whether it is the T-862 or T-862++. So I guess that is a pretty good buy. Best Regards, John AJ6BC On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Graham / KE9H time...@austin.rr.comwrote: John: We have one at work. It basically works as represented. It takes some skill to run, and takes some time to develop the safe settings for soldering different sized items. It puts out a tremendous amount of infrared heat, and you can melt things if you are not careful. For instance, it will melt plastic connectors close to the part being reworked. You want to use it in a well ventilated area. It heats the board to be reworked from the underside to close to solder temperature, then uses infrared from the top side to push the temperature for the part in question above solder melting temp., and sometimes things close by. The underside heater is covered with silicon rubber, and gives off strong odor when hot. Hot PCB boards give off strong odors, and of course, you are melting solder and flux. So, good ventilation is highly recommended. You will need to practice on a few scrap boards before you try to solder something valuable. In the hands of a skilled operator, it does beautiful work. --- Graham == On 11/13/2013 9:00 PM, John C. Westmoreland, P.E. wrote: Hello All, I was wondering if anyone on this list has used the T862++ rework stations on the PCB's you work on - http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias% 3Dtoolsfield-keywords=t862%2B%2Brh=n%3A228013%2Ck%3At862%2B%2B Are these as good as advertised? Thanks In Advance, John Westmoreland ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Loran
Sounds pretty good not banging in here like the old chain did. austron 2100 says 38db srs700 says 47 rcvr gain and 25 db noise margin. hp3856b's says -53dbm or 500uv. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 5:40 PM, J. Forster j...@quikus.com wrote: What's the signal strength like? -John === Oh that is indeed interesting that they are moving forward. The GRI is 89700. SRS700 locked and looking good. Just brought the Austron 2100 and 2100F on line. The 2100 is tied to the local RB and the f is tied to the HP3801. The SRS700 looks at the RB. I pulled the Austron 2000 out of the rack several months ago. Needed the space. Regards Paul WB8TSL. Near Boston. On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Tom Van Baak t...@leapsecond.com wrote: Well lets see. Just warming up the srs700. UrsaNav must have received some support $ Regards Paul WB8TSL Paul, See below, via Adobe OCR on a JPG press release: --- From: UrsaNav Press Contact Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 10:31 AM Subject: UrsaNav Accepts eLoran Transmitter from Nautel UrsaNav News Release November 14, 2013 Two Companies - One Dream UrsaNav Accepts Delivery of First Production Nautel NlAO eLoran Transmitter Bedford, Massachusetts, USA.- After extensive Final Acceptance Testing at Nautel's Hackett's Cove, NS facility, UrsaNav has accepted delivery of the first production NL40 Loran-C and Enhanced Loran (eLoran) transmitter. This seventh generation Loran transmitter technology is the culmination of over six years of collaborative development between the two companies. The transmitter successfully met or exceeded all of the requirements of the u.s. Coast Guard Specification of the Transmitted Loran-C Signal. Testing was conducted into a simulated antenna matching the characteristics of a u.s. Coast Guard standard 625-foot Top-Loaded Monopole. The NL-Series transmitters are capable of transmitting Loran-C, eLoran, Chayka, and eChayka in any combination at power levels exceeding one megawatt. They are qualified for today, and prepared for tomorrow. UrsaNav's President, Charles Schue, shown accepting the transmitter from Nautel's President, Peter Conlon, commented: Resilient PNT begins with complementary technologies, layered one upon the other in such a way that the user is ensured improved continuity of operations over a sole-source solution. eLoran is the terrestrial coprimary complement to GNSS, and our technology makes eLoran the most economical, efficient, and wide-area alternative when GNSS is not available. UrsaNav provides the world's most advanced solutions for Low Frequency Alternative Positioning, Navigation, Timing, and Data, including high-performance eLoran Receiver, Command and Control, and Differential Loran technology. We are the exclusive, global, reseller of Nautel's industry-leading, high-power, Low Frequency transmitters for Loran/eLoran and Chayka/eChayka. --- ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic Sortof: Board Rework Stations
Bob, Yes - you definitely need the appropriate lens - here is a seller that has everything listed: http://www.ebay.com/itm/INFRARED-T862-SMT-SMD-REWORK-STATION-SOLDERING-WELDER-IRDA-BGA-MACHINE-/200949973718?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2ec98d42d6 I opted to get this though: http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRAND-NEW-T962A-INFRARED-IC-HEATER-REFLOW-OVEN-300X320MM-BGA-SMD-300x320mm-/200942081431?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2ec914d597 I may still pick up one of the T-862++'s though. Regards, John On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: Hi If you look at the eBay listings they mention in some of them that what they are selling is “without lenses”. My impression was that you needed to focus the IR (like with a lens) to really get it to work well. I did not dig far enough to sort that part out. Bob On Nov 14, 2013, at 6:41 PM, John C. Westmoreland, P.E. j...@westmorelandengineering.com wrote: Graham, Thanks - good info. On eBay you can get these for ~$250.00 - depending on whether it is the T-862 or T-862++. So I guess that is a pretty good buy. Best Regards, John AJ6BC On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Graham / KE9H time...@austin.rr.com wrote: John: We have one at work. It basically works as represented. It takes some skill to run, and takes some time to develop the safe settings for soldering different sized items. It puts out a tremendous amount of infrared heat, and you can melt things if you are not careful. For instance, it will melt plastic connectors close to the part being reworked. You want to use it in a well ventilated area. It heats the board to be reworked from the underside to close to solder temperature, then uses infrared from the top side to push the temperature for the part in question above solder melting temp., and sometimes things close by. The underside heater is covered with silicon rubber, and gives off strong odor when hot. Hot PCB boards give off strong odors, and of course, you are melting solder and flux. So, good ventilation is highly recommended. You will need to practice on a few scrap boards before you try to solder something valuable. In the hands of a skilled operator, it does beautiful work. --- Graham == On 11/13/2013 9:00 PM, John C. Westmoreland, P.E. wrote: Hello All, I was wondering if anyone on this list has used the T862++ rework stations on the PCB's you work on - http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias% 3Dtoolsfield-keywords=t862%2B%2Brh=n%3A228013%2Ck%3At862%2B%2B Are these as good as advertised? Thanks In Advance, John Westmoreland ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic Sortof: Board Rework Stations
This is the station that I bought. It is not as sophisticated, but,not as much either. http://www.ebay.com/itm/11632887?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 73 Glenn WB4UIV At 09:45 PM 11/14/2013, you wrote: Bob, Yes - you definitely need the appropriate lens - here is a seller that has everything listed: http://www.ebay.com/itm/INFRARED-T862-SMT-SMD-REWORK-STATION-SOLDERING-WELDER-IRDA-BGA-MACHINE-/200949973718?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2ec98d42d6 I opted to get this though: http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRAND-NEW-T962A-INFRARED-IC-HEATER-REFLOW-OVEN-300X320MM-BGA-SMD-300x320mm-/200942081431?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2ec914d597 I may still pick up one of the T-862++'s though. Regards, John On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: Hi If you look at the eBay listings they mention in some of them that what they are selling is without lenses. My impression was that you needed to focus the IR (like with a lens) to really get it to work well. I did not dig far enough to sort that part out. Bob On Nov 14, 2013, at 6:41 PM, John C. Westmoreland, P.E. j...@westmorelandengineering.com wrote: Graham, Thanks - good info. On eBay you can get these for ~$250.00 - depending on whether it is the T-862 or T-862++. So I guess that is a pretty good buy. Best Regards, John AJ6BC On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Graham / KE9H time...@austin.rr.com wrote: John: We have one at work. It basically works as represented. It takes some skill to run, and takes some time to develop the safe settings for soldering different sized items. It puts out a tremendous amount of infrared heat, and you can melt things if you are not careful. For instance, it will melt plastic connectors close to the part being reworked. You want to use it in a well ventilated area. It heats the board to be reworked from the underside to close to solder temperature, then uses infrared from the top side to push the temperature for the part in question above solder melting temp., and sometimes things close by. The underside heater is covered with silicon rubber, and gives off strong odor when hot. Hot PCB boards give off strong odors, and of course, you are melting solder and flux. So, good ventilation is highly recommended. You will need to practice on a few scrap boards before you try to solder something valuable. In the hands of a skilled operator, it does beautiful work. --- Graham == On 11/13/2013 9:00 PM, John C. Westmoreland, P.E. wrote: Hello All, I was wondering if anyone on this list has used the T862++ rework stations on the PCB's you work on - http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias% 3Dtoolsfield-keywords=t862%2B%2Brh=n%3A228013%2Ck%3At862%2B%2B Are these as good as advertised? Thanks In Advance, John Westmoreland ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.