[time-nuts] 74HCT9046A Max. Operating Frequency

2014-04-24 Thread sg sg
Hi, I'm about to implement a PLL for a 24.576 MHz VCXO using the phase-frequency detector (PC2) of the NXP 74HCT9046A. From the datasheet (www.nxp.com/documents/data_sheet/74HCT9046A.pdf) it is not clear to me what the maximum operating frequency for this phase detector is--from the enable and

Re: [time-nuts] 74HCT9046A Max. Operating Frequency

2014-04-24 Thread Attila Kinali
On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 09:41:44 +0100 (BST) sg sg micpre...@yahoo.de wrote: I'm about to implement a PLL for a 24.576 MHz VCXO using the phase-frequency detector (PC2) of the NXP 74HCT9046A. From the datasheet (www.nxp.com /documents/data_sheet/74HCT9046A.pdf) it is not clear to me what the

Re: [time-nuts] How to accurately measure an oscillator's temperature.

2014-04-24 Thread EWKehren
Chris I am not sure if you want to measure temperature or control a fan. To measure there are many options depending on how much money you want to spend. To control I suggest either a LM 335 or a NTC resistor. I have worked extensively with both and for measuring I have now downsized to a

Re: [time-nuts] 74HCT9046A Max. Operating Frequency

2014-04-24 Thread wb6bnq
Hello Samuel, Well, I just got done designing and building the very same thing. If I recall correctly it is the same as the HC4046 which is 4 MHz. The 9046 VCO will only go up to 20 MHz absolute maximum. So you will need an external oscillator and dividers. BillWB6BNQ sg sg wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] 74HCT9046A Max. Operating Frequency

2014-04-24 Thread Tim Shoppa
My feeling has always been that PC2 is most appropriate for very wide-bandwidth (most of an octave or more) VCO's. I have used it at both audio and in 1-2MHz region with success. For 24.576 MHz VCXO, the fractional change in frequency will be in multiple ppm not octaves, and I would naturally

[time-nuts] Symmetricom chip scale atomic clock

2014-04-24 Thread Lester Veenstra
Affected Products: Jackson Labs or Symmetricom time/frequency reference boards based on Symmetricom chip scale atomic clock, most common unit is the CSAC GPSDO sold by both symmetricom vendors and direct from Jackson labs Type of issue: Short and Long-term reliability, mfr couldn’t assure that

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3805A GPSDO Oven Heater Voltages

2014-04-24 Thread John Stuart
Jarl, Thank you for your help on this. It appears that either; the CPU has a bad output pin, some unknown command has turned the heater off, or the firmware is programmed that way. The 10 MHz frequency had always been very 'stable', and I didn't know there was a problem until I bought a 2nd HP

Re: [time-nuts] Wenzel oscillator - L1 value?

2014-04-24 Thread Philip Pemberton
I was under the impression it was a relatively low phase noise design... In any case, my 10MHz crystals are parallel-resonant. Are there any alternative oscillator designs you'd suggest I look into? Thanks, Phil. On 24/04/14 02:38, Bob Camp wrote: HI The circuit they show is not very low

Re: [time-nuts] Symmetricom chip scale atomic clock

2014-04-24 Thread SAIDJACK
Hello everyone, let me address the below claims and commentary which was posted without first consulting with us. Microsemi has recently seen a slightly higher failure rate of the CSAC oscillators than expected. A small percentage of our customers have been adversely affected by this

[time-nuts] D-PSK-R wwvb thread

2014-04-24 Thread paul swed
Back from travel. I hijacked another thread and that is bad behavior. Sorry. So here is the thread all by itself. Background To remove the new wwvb bpsk so that old phase tracking receivers can work. As a by-product of that effort you do obtain the new format data from wwvb. Already released are

Re: [time-nuts] Wenzel oscillator - L1 value?

2014-04-24 Thread Bob Camp
Hi There is no difference at all between a 32 pf series crystal and a 32 pf parallel crystal. They both resonate with a 32 pf load and operate at exactly the same frequency into that load. Your crystals will work fine with that circuit. The big claim to fame of the circuit shown is that you

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3805A GPSDO Oven Heater Voltages

2014-04-24 Thread Henry Hallam
John, I have a similar unit (probably from the same seller), advertised as an Z3805A upgraded to the features of 58503A, whatever that is supposed to mean. Mine also does not get warm on top, though it appears to be providing a decent 10 MHz output and indicates GPS lock. This is the best

Re: [time-nuts] 74HCT9046A Max. Operating Frequency

2014-04-24 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 04/24/2014 10:41 AM, sg sg wrote: Hi, I'm about to implement a PLL for a 24.576 MHz VCXO using the phase-frequency detector (PC2) of the NXP 74HCT9046A. From the datasheet (www.nxp.com/documents/data_sheet/74HCT9046A.pdf) it is not clear to me what the maximum operating frequency for

Re: [time-nuts] Symmetricom chip scale atomic clock

2014-04-24 Thread Magnus Danielson
Said, I recognize this situation so well. Feel with you on the issue and hope you find that it resolve itself nicely. Cheers, Magnus On 04/24/2014 10:50 PM, saidj...@aol.com wrote: Hello everyone, let me address the below claims and commentary which was posted without first consulting with

Re: [time-nuts] Symmetricom chip scale atomic clock

2014-04-24 Thread Bob Camp
Hi I seem to have been in exactly the same position many times before and also wish you well in resolving this (as I’m *certain* will be the case). Bob On Apr 24, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: Said, I recognize this situation so well. Feel with you

Re: [time-nuts] Symmetricom chip scale atomic clock

2014-04-24 Thread Said Jackson
Hi Magnus, Bob, Thanks much for your kind words. The failure rate is thankfully so low that we are not greatly alarmed, and Microsemi has been a champ in resolving any failures with/for us when they did show up. We are awaiting the results of the full re-qualify that Microsemi is doing on the

Re: [time-nuts] Symmetricom chip scale atomic clock

2014-04-24 Thread Jim Palfreyman
Out of curiosity, what's the current price for one of these for a time-nut to play with? Regards, Jim Palfreyman On 25 April 2014 11:26, Said Jackson saidj...@aol.com wrote: Hi Magnus, Bob, Thanks much for your kind words. The failure rate is thankfully so low that we are not greatly

Re: [time-nuts] Symmetricom chip scale atomic clock

2014-04-24 Thread Said Jackson
I believe Microsemi still charges around $1500 for a CSAC. Some were offered on Ebay for around $500 I think some time ago.. Sent From iPhone On Apr 24, 2014, at 18:33, Jim Palfreyman jim77...@gmail.com wrote: Out of curiosity, what's the current price for one of these for a time-nut to play

Re: [time-nuts] Symmetricom chip scale atomic clock

2014-04-24 Thread Jim Lux
On 4/24/14, 6:26 PM, Said Jackson wrote: Hi Magnus, Bob, Thanks much for your kind words. The failure rate is thankfully so low that we are not greatly alarmed, and Microsemi has been a champ in resolving any failures with/for us when they did show up. We are awaiting the results of the full