Re: [time-nuts] Time in Phone System

2014-07-22 Thread Hal Murray
bro...@pacific.net said: I expect that there's date and time information being sent in the header of every phone call, maybe even before the first ring along with the Caller ID info. Wiki says CallerID is sent between the first and second ring, and includes the date and time.

Re: [time-nuts] Time in Phone System

2014-07-22 Thread mike cook
Works in France too. But someone has to call to get it set. Le 22 juil. 2014 à 06:40, Mark Sims a écrit : Yes, the caller ID data has time in it. There are chips out there that decode caller ID. I signaling format isially is the old Bell 202 modem protocol. The caller ID devices

Re: [time-nuts] Time in Phone System

2014-07-22 Thread Chris Albertson
The data is formatted by the switch that connected the call. This could be a PBX that lives inside some small company or even in someone's house. Today these switches are computers and they would use the system time. So the time you are getting is just whatever time the caller's equipment

Re: [time-nuts] Time in Phone System

2014-07-22 Thread David Malone
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 11:01:19PM -0700, Hal Murray wrote: I expect that there's date and time information being sent in the header of every phone call, maybe even before the first ring along with the Caller ID info. Wiki says CallerID is sent between the first and second ring, and

Re: [time-nuts] Time in Phone System

2014-07-22 Thread jim s
On 7/21/2014 9:07 PM, Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi: Every phone in my house that has an LCD shows the correct date time, but I have never set any of them. I expect that there's date and time information being sent in the header of every phone call, maybe even before the first ring along with

Re: [time-nuts] temperature sensor

2014-07-22 Thread Dan Kemppainen
For what it's worth: One possible source is through GE Thermometrics. They used to be Just Thermometrics bug GE bought them. The offer calibrated thermistors (At leas they used to offer calibration), with AB and C vales stated. Not sure what the costs are, but they make some pretty nice

Re: [time-nuts] Time in Phone System

2014-07-22 Thread Bill Hawkins
Need to specify the identification of the cordless phones. Panasonic KX-TGD22n (where n is the number of handsets) will set their time from the time included in the CID message. Anybody from a major telco know the accuracy of time on a DSL line? Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From:

Re: [time-nuts] temperature sensor

2014-07-22 Thread Brian D
Chuck Harris cfhar...@erols.com wrote: Steam superheats only if the pressure is raised above standard pressure, otherwise, steam at standard pressure will be exactly 212F, or 100C. Saturated steam at standard pressure will be exactly 212F, or 100C. Superheated steam is steam raised above the

Re: [time-nuts] temperature sensor

2014-07-22 Thread Alex Pummer
the broiling temperature is dependent of the atmospheric pressure! the water broils at 100C° only a see level! 73 Alex On 7/21/2014 11:56 AM, Alan Melia wrote: er not boiling watersteam. Water's boiling point is affected by the dissolved gasses and other contaminants. Alan G3NYK

Re: [time-nuts] Noise and non-linear behaviour of ferrite transformers

2014-07-22 Thread Didier Juges
Effectiveness of coax cable (at eliminating the effects of current through the shield) is often expressed as transfer impedance. Google it for more info, it has been extensively covered in the literature. Didier KO4BB On July 20, 2014 11:18:58 PM CDT, Chuck Harris cfhar...@erols.com wrote:

[time-nuts] Starting point for a WWVB project?

2014-07-22 Thread George Dubovsky
While looking for something else in the basement, I found this Ultralink 301/333 WWVB receiver: https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/116677848251094111716/albums/6038922880078010001 I think I picked it up because the case looked useful, but I haven't molested it. It does not seem to work and I can

Re: [time-nuts] temperature sensor

2014-07-22 Thread Attila Kinali
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 01:17:03 +0100 Brian D gro...@planet3.freeuk.co.uk wrote: Saturated steam at standard pressure will be exactly 212F, or 100C. Stupid question: How to you ensure that the steam is saturated, while keeping a constant pressure? I think just buying some indium off ebay and use

Re: [time-nuts] Starting point for a WWVB project?

2014-07-22 Thread paul swed
Geo if it uses that chip the thing should work even with the new format. You may want to place the antenna in a good position and give it a shot. You might like it. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:10 PM, George Dubovsky n4ua...@gmail.com wrote: While looking for something else in

[time-nuts] new clock

2014-07-22 Thread Richard Warner
Greetings, Started following the discussions recently and am learning a lot. Found the temperature sensor thread interesting. Measuring contact temperature (enclosure, heat sink) is a different problem than air temperature. For closing temperature control loops the absolute accuracy is

Re: [time-nuts] temperature sensor

2014-07-22 Thread Bill Hawkins
Group, I worked for Rosemount, a manufacturer of precision resistance thermometers, for many years. Platinum does have a well-known formula for temperature versus resistance, with second order corrections. But a sensor is not enough. You need to convert its physical property to a signal that is

[time-nuts] new clock

2014-07-22 Thread Mark Sims
An oscillator can take many weeks to settle in after being powered off / shipped / abused / looked at cross-eyed / etc. It typically takes a Thunderbolt a month or two to settle down after being shipped from China.

Re: [time-nuts] temperature sensor

2014-07-22 Thread Bill Dailey
In a container, as steam condenses the pressure will drop. The steam will stay saturated. This is as long as the container contains steam only. Eventually, as the steam cools and condenses you will be left with a vacuum contains only minimal water vapor. Sent from mobile On Jul 22, 2014,

Re: [time-nuts] new clock

2014-07-22 Thread paul swed
Agree with Marks comments. Regards Paul On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Mark Sims hol...@hotmail.com wrote: An oscillator can take many weeks to settle in after being powered off / shipped / abused / looked at cross-eyed / etc. It typically takes a Thunderbolt a month or two to settle

Re: [time-nuts] new clock

2014-07-22 Thread Bob Camp
Hi A lot depends on the oscillator. My fine old GR rack mount took most of 9 months to settle most of the way. It was still dropping in a year after that when I stopped watching it. Some of my T-Bolts took a week, some took a couple months…. Best thing you can do with any OCXO is just leave

Re: [time-nuts] Time in Phone System

2014-07-22 Thread Mike S
On 7/21/2014 11:07 PM, Brooke Clarke wrote: Every phone in my house that has an LCD shows the correct date time, but I have never set any of them. I expect that there's date and time information being sent in the header of every phone call, maybe even before the first ring along with the