[time-nuts] Digital Mixing with a BeagleBone Black and D Flip Flop

2014-10-15 Thread Bruce Griffiths
The use of a synchroniser loses no information apart from fine details about the metastability response of the sampling flipflop. With a 10Hz offset and a 10MHz clock the sampling resolution is 100fs with the phase difference between the flipflop clock and data input transitions changing

Re: [time-nuts] Digital Mixing with a BeagleBone Black and D Flip Flop

2014-10-15 Thread Javier Serrano
Hi Simon, I am the initiator and leader of the White Rabbit project, which in the context of these discussions is more a disqualifier than anything, since I do very little technical work these days, unfortunately. Please forgive me if I have misunderstood what you are trying to do. Some tentative

Re: [time-nuts] Digital Mixing with a BeagleBone Black and D Flip Flop

2014-10-15 Thread Gerhard Hoffmann
Am 15.10.2014 um 11:29 schrieb Bruce Griffiths: Typically a 74HC164 shift register has internal cycle to cycle sampling jitter of about 4ps or so when used as a mixer, a 74AC device has about 1/4 of this jitter or around 1ps. Faster CMOS devices have even less internal jitter. Hi, do you

Re: [time-nuts] Digital Mixing with a BeagleBone Black and D Flip Flop

2014-10-15 Thread Simon Marsh
Javier, I'm merely implementing a poor man's copy of the ideas in the White Rabbit project, so thank you for taking the time to post. On 15/10/2014 14:27, Javier Serrano wrote: [snip] Do you have a precise idea of what the offset in frequency is between your DUT(s) and the slightly-offset

Re: [time-nuts] Digital Mixing with a BeagleBone Black and D Flip Flop

2014-10-15 Thread Bruce Griffiths
On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 03:27:41 PM Javier Serrano wrote: Do you have a precise idea of what the offset in frequency is between your DUT(s) and the slightly-offset oscillator? If that offset is too big compared with the jitter of your clock signals and your flip-flops, that would

Re: [time-nuts] Digital Mixing with a BeagleBone Black and D Flip Flop

2014-10-15 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Simon, I need to find some spare time, something which is not in rich volumen right now. Cheers, Magnus On 10/15/2014 09:53 AM, Simon Marsh wrote: Hi Magnus, What was the outcome ? Did it work, and what were the constraints or problems encountered ? Cheers Simon On 15/10/2014

Re: [time-nuts] Digital Mixing with a BeagleBone Black and D Flip Flop

2014-10-15 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Most ECL families have more trouble with 1/F noise than fast silicon saturated logic. That makes them poor candidates for this sort of thing. Bob On Oct 15, 2014, at 9:13 AM, Gerhard Hoffmann dk...@arcor.de wrote: Am 15.10.2014 um 11:29 schrieb Bruce Griffiths: Typically a 74HC164 shift

Re: [time-nuts] WTB: GPS Antenna Splitter

2014-10-15 Thread Peter Loron
Dave, I think I have a MiniCircuits ZAPD-3(?) splitter or two kicking around. I'll try to get a look in the stash this weekend. -Pete On 2014-10-06 13:01, Dave M wrote: Does anyone in the group have, or can point me to, a low-cost (but not cheap) 2-port splitter for a GPS antenna? Those on

Re: [time-nuts] WTB: GPS Antenna Splitter

2014-10-15 Thread Dave M
Pete, I see a ZAPD-30 on the miniCircuits web site. Might those be the models that you have? If so, (and assuming that you can find them), how much for a couple? Thanks, Dave M Peter Loron wrote: Dave, I think I have a MiniCircuits ZAPD-3(?) splitter or two kicking around. I'll try to get a

Re: [time-nuts] Digital Mixing with a BeagleBone Black and D Flip Flop

2014-10-15 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Take a look at Potato chips yes Potato I have used them with good results Bert Kehren 330551715157 In a message dated 10/15/2014 6:44:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kb...@n1k.org writes: Hi Most ECL families have more trouble with 1/F noise than fast silicon saturated

Re: [time-nuts] Digital Mixing with a BeagleBone Black and D Flip Flop

2014-10-15 Thread Daniel Mendes
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Re: [time-nuts] Digital Mixing with a BeagleBone Black and D Flip Flop

2014-10-15 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Is it silicon or is it something more exotic? In general, exotic is not good for 1/F noise. Bob On Oct 15, 2014, at 9:36 PM, Daniel Mendes dmend...@gmail.com wrote: You beat me :) http://www.potatosemi.com/ They sell low quantities thru Ebay, like this:

Re: [time-nuts] Digital Mixing with a BeagleBone Black and D Flip Flop

2014-10-15 Thread Hal Murray
kb...@n1k.org said: Is it silicon or is it something more exotic? In general, exotic is not good for 1/F noise. Data sheets say submicron CMOS. -- These are my opinions. I hate spam. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To