[time-nuts] Usefulness of high end counters for ADEV plots of oscillators

2015-01-30 Thread James via time-nuts
Though I'm new to the list I've lurked for quite a while and from reading various posts I am in a slightly confused state as to whether buying an expensive counter (eg Keysight 53230A or a Tek fca 3100) will be useful as a measurement tool for developing a GPSDO. Given a one shot measurement

Re: [time-nuts] 510 doubler

2015-01-30 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 1/29/2015 5:41 PM, Alexander Pummer wrote: And the narrow notch for the harmonic is not required anyway, since the fundamental is fare enough, therefore a high Q LC trap will work better, also with the setting of the biasing af the active devices the Alex KJ6UHN When I designed the 5071A

Re: [time-nuts] Symmetricom TymServe 2100-GPS currently fails with GPS offset

2015-01-30 Thread Andrew Lindh
Esa Heikkinen tn1ajb@... writes: Robert Watzlavick kirjoitti: I'm seeing the same thing with my TS-2100 - it is one second behind WWV based on the front panel display. My ET-6000 appears to be in sync. Ok - then this is verified... So the only way (for me) is to run this with

Re: [time-nuts] 510 doubler

2015-01-30 Thread Gerhard Hoffmann
Am 30.01.2015 um 02:41 schrieb Alexander Pummer: And the narrow notch for the harmonic is not required anyway, since the fundamental is fare enough, therefore a high Q LC trap will work better, also with the setting of the biasing af the active devices the spures could be reduced to [ just

Re: [time-nuts] Usefulness of high end counters for ADEV plots of oscillators

2015-01-30 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
First of all, the oven oscillator option of the 53230 is no where near as stable in ADEV as a 10811 for example. The counter itself is 1 or 2 orders of magnitude better than the built in timebase. So don't waste your money on the OCXO option when you, as a time nut, undoubtably already own

Re: [time-nuts] Symmetricom TymServe 2100-GPS currently fails with GPS offset

2015-01-30 Thread Hal Murray
and...@netplex.net said: I have a nice set of TS2100 GPS Rubidium boxes as primary servers that provide time and PPS to more current NTP servers. It's too bad the firmware is so old and this bug won't be fixed. If you are using ntpd, you can fudge the time by a second so ntpd will

Re: [time-nuts] 510 doubler

2015-01-30 Thread Alexander Pummer
And the narrow notch for the harmonic is not required anyway, since the fundamental is fare enough, therefore a high Q LC trap will work better, also with the setting of the biasing af the active devices the spures could be reduced to [ just observe the output with a spectrum analyzer and set

Re: [time-nuts] Motorola Oncore M12+T Sawtooth

2015-01-30 Thread Graham / KE9H
The source of the sawtooth is not the GPS receiver L.O., it is the frequency of the master clock in the CPU. The 1PPS line is a GPIO line from the CPU. This means that the 1PPS line is constrained to only change state on the edge of a CPU clock. The CPU can calculate exactly when the the 1PPS

Re: [time-nuts] Motorola Oncore M12+T Sawtooth

2015-01-30 Thread Tom Wimmenhove
Hello Tom, On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Tom Van Baak t...@leapsecond.com wrote: google for: m12 gps sawtooth I have seen your saw-tooth graphs on leapsecond. It did slightly increase my confidence that all units probably are within this range. I guess I can assume this is the same among