Re: [time-nuts] [volt-nuts] The Art of Electronics

2015-04-17 Thread Jim Palfreyman
What's been added? This is a brilliant book, but I need to know what the updates are! Jim On 17 April 2015 at 18:12, Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dk wrote: In message 20150417074427.ga31...@sol.ermione.com, Andrea Baldoni writes: Hello. In the case someone missed the new,

[time-nuts] The Art of Electronics

2015-04-17 Thread Andrea Baldoni
Hello. In the case someone missed the new, after years of waiting, the third edition of the book in the subject is out! I'm a true fan of the second edition and I'm sure I will not be disappointed by the new one; I should receive it in the beginning of the next week so if someone is interested in

Re: [time-nuts] [volt-nuts] The Art of Electronics

2015-04-17 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 20150417074427.ga31...@sol.ermione.com, Andrea Baldoni writes: Hello. In the case someone missed the new, after years of waiting, the third edition of the book in the subject is out! I received it last week, and yes, it's absolutely worth the money. -- Poul-Henning Kamp

Re: [time-nuts] [volt-nuts] The Art of Electronics

2015-04-17 Thread Tim Shoppa
Win Hill has been working on the 3rd edition for literally decades. I used to exchange E-mails with him back in the 90's when the 3rd edition was always around the corner. Glad to see it has arrived! My 2nd edition is very well-worn. Bought it in 1990. 25 years!!! Tim N3QE On Fri, Apr 17, 2015

Re: [time-nuts] [volt-nuts] The Art of Electronics

2015-04-17 Thread brent evers
+1. I'll probably buy a copy anyway (not that I need it so much anymore), but I'd like to know what has changed, what you think has improved, what you think has been missed, etc. The 2nd edition was fantastic, but so much of the EE world has changed I think it would be hard to cover it as well

Re: [time-nuts] UBlox GPSDO

2015-04-17 Thread Matthias Brändli
Hi all, some additional info about the generation of the timepulse: in u-blox 7 and 8, the timepulse is generated from the internal 48MHz clock. So you will see a lot of jitter if you configure it to 10MHz. A 8MHz it's better, but since the internal 48MHz clock is not disciplined (It's derived

Re: [time-nuts] [volt-nuts] The Art of Electronics

2015-04-17 Thread brent evers
So in the interest of not belaboring [time-nuts]' with a long discussion of AOE that may border on off topic, or at least not enough on topic, I'll follow up my last post by noting that I went to amazon and read through several of the (very) thorough reviews, and many of my points/questions from

Re: [time-nuts] UBlox GPSDO

2015-04-17 Thread Alan Ambrose
Re LEA-M8F The main thing is that there is a lot of jitter at 10MHz (much less at 8MHz) so you need to phase lock another oscillator to it. Yes, as they've got most of the guts of a basic GPSDO in there with a VCTCXO - but it seems they missed the boat in making the divisor for 10MHz

[time-nuts] UBlox GPSDO

2015-04-17 Thread Mark Sims
The SiLabs part only supports loop filter time constants down to 60Hz. GPS loop filters usually use values in the 100's to 1000's of seconds. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] UBlox GPSDO

2015-04-17 Thread Wayne Holder
Thanks to everyone for all the great replies. I figured that the 10 MHz output would have a fair bit of jitter/phase noise, but I figured I could use something like a SiLabs Si5317 to clean it up, as per this app note: https://www.silabs.com/Support%20Documents/TechnicalDocs/AN513.pdf Page 4

[time-nuts] Rakon OCXO (STP2777ALF) on eBay

2015-04-17 Thread Dan Watson
Hi all, Has anyone experimented with the Rakon OCXO unit (STP2777ALF on a small board) that was on eBay for a while (seller: dasherdeals)? Just now as I was going to get a link to post, I discovered they have sold out of these units... I got one this week. There was little information

[time-nuts] Visual clock comparison

2015-04-17 Thread d0ct0r
Hello, Netizens ! I am wandering what is the average human ability to visually compare two clocks ? Let say I have XClock application running on one machine (stratum 1 NTP) and I have my project clock close by. And I would like to match the reading. If I'll see the difference, which range it