Re: [time-nuts] timestamps on downconverted data streams

2015-12-20 Thread Bill Byrom
This is normally done with a factory or field alignment step. See pages 47-49 of this document for more details: http://www.tek.com/fact-sheet/fundamentals-mdo4000-series-mixed-domain-oscilloscope On the Tektronix MDO4000 series instruments the delay is factory aligned to within +/- 5 ns, but on

Re: [time-nuts] SMD TADD-1 distribution amplifier - seeking comments and suggestions?

2015-12-20 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Reverting somewhat closer to the original topic:Attached 2 BJT circuit has unity gain with a PN floor well below -180dBc/Hz (10MHz +13dBm input) with a reverse isolation better than 60dB. 2nd Harmonic output is about -70dBc or so.4 of these could be driven from the outputs of a 4 way splitter to

Re: [time-nuts] Anybody who can record last Loran-C transmissions ?

2015-12-20 Thread Pieter-Tjerk de Boer
On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 10:01:44PM +, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > In message <5675ac3c.8020...@aei.ca>, Graham writes: > > >Would you be able to record what you want via the online web SDR at the > >Twente University? > > Not really. That would only give a water-fall. > > What I

Re: [time-nuts] timestamps on downconverted data streams

2015-12-20 Thread Magnus Danielson
Jim, It really depends on the complexity of your system. For some you can analyze it or measure it with fairly simple tools. For other systems, you need to calibrate it with a signal of known timing and compare the known timing out of the same box with that of your system. This is how GPS/GNS

Re: [time-nuts] timestamps on downconverted data streams

2015-12-20 Thread Jim Lux
On 12/20/15 12:17 PM, Bill Byrom wrote: Yes, you can do that. My employer (Tektronix) makes RF Signal Analyzers which sample at a high rate then use a DDC (Digital DownConverter based on decimation and digital filtering) to produce a much smaller output I/Q file at a smaller bandwidth and lower t

Re: [time-nuts] timestamps on downconverted data streams

2015-12-20 Thread Bob Camp
HI One simple way to look at it is: The conversion process is a filter. It has an impulse response and a group delay. If it’s a digital downconversion process, those things are very well known (no analog drift …). You can, if needed, put in correction filters to take care of any messy phase ar

Re: [time-nuts] timestamps on downconverted data streams

2015-12-20 Thread Bill Byrom
Yes, you can do that. My employer (Tektronix) makes RF Signal Analyzers which sample at a high rate then use a DDC (Digital DownConverter based on decimation and digital filtering) to produce a much smaller output I/Q file at a smaller bandwidth and lower time resolution. The decimation and digital

[time-nuts] timestamps on downconverted data streams

2015-12-20 Thread Jim Lux
Here's an interesting problem. You have a fast sampler that is collecting samples off-the-air (e.g. the end of LORAN) with a fairly wide bandwidth: say 10 Megasamples per second. Those samples get post processed in a digital downconverter (not necessarily in real time) to a narrower band repr

Re: [time-nuts] SMD TADD-1 distribution amplifier - seeking comments and suggestions?

2015-12-20 Thread Clint Jay
I once spent a very miserable but profitable weekend remaking a thin ethernet network where the "installation expert" had stripped back 10B2 coax four inches and neatly separated core and shield, heatshrinked them into pigtails and then soldered them into panel mount BNC sockets. He was outraged

Re: [time-nuts] Anybody who can record last Loran-C transmissions ?

2015-12-20 Thread Lizeth Norman
Had I known a trip to EU would have been in order. Going for a ham radio vacation anyway. 8R satellite. The radio (B210) runs with either of the I7 laptops that are here. As you point out, making sure that the bus speed and devices are compatible is key. The B210 is a "development board" so to sp

Re: [time-nuts] SMD TADD-1 distribution amplifier - seeking comments and suggestions?

2015-12-20 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <20151220042724.0f3d8406...@ip-64-139-1-69.sjc.megapath.net>, Hal Murray writes: > >p...@phk.freebsd.dk said: >> The main reason Ethernet went balanced was actually for fault isolation >> (star-topology vs. bus) and signal quality (IT people were horrible at >> "sharking" and c