Re: [time-nuts] Why is holdover LED on HP 58503A not lit

2016-12-19 Thread Charles Steinmetz
David wrote: This does appear now to be working - see below. I'm not exactly sure what was the secret to getting this to work, but the above procedure seemed ok. Time. It is not at all unusual for a 58503A that has no almanac (or an out-of-date almanac) to take several days to achieve discip

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather 5.0 and COFS/Jupiter-T Receiver

2016-12-19 Thread Bryan _
Thanks, yes you are right, memory was just jogged and the elevation for the Jupiter is set with if I recall with a radian calculation entered with two bytes in a binary word statement. A real pain to figure out. I think it has completed the survey and is displaying "Position Hold Mode". Is th

Re: [time-nuts] Why is holdover LED on HP 58503A not lit, when GPS lock is unlit too?

2016-12-19 Thread Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd)
On 18 December 2016 at 22:41, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) < drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk> wrote: > It is looking much better now. I > > 1) Powered off > 2) Left off for 30 s > 3) Pulled antenna out. > 4) Powered on > 5) Connected antenna, making sure if was firmly screwed in. > > It

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather Ver 5 Problem - full screen mode

2016-12-19 Thread Bill Riches
Just noticed by accident if you have a small screen mode if you click on the top of the screen and drag it up above the top of the monitor and release the mouse button it will change to full screen mode. Learn something new every day! 73, Bill, WA2DVU Cape May Ahhh, full screen mode... the d

[time-nuts] Lady Heather 5.0 and COFS/Jupiter-T Receiver

2016-12-19 Thread Mark Sims
COFS is the clock offset value (whatever that is). Heather has plots for four receiver provided values. One the Thunderbolt these were the OSCillator offset, PPS offset, DAC, and temperature (OSC plot defaults to off since it mostly looks like noise). On other receivers the plots are assigned

Re: [time-nuts] 1PPS users?

2016-12-19 Thread Bob Camp
Hi > On Dec 19, 2016, at 11:55 AM, David J Taylor > wrote: > > From: jimlux > > And pretty much any of these will ingest a 1pps + message, rather than, > say, a 10 MHz reference. > > Why not just use the raw GPS 1pps (which is typically good to a few tens > of ns)? GPS coverage/outage and r

[time-nuts] Lady Heather 5.0 and COFS/Jupiter-T Receiver

2016-12-19 Thread Bryan _
Being playing round with Lady heather 5.0 (really impressed) and my Jupiter-T receiver using Zodiac mode. But what is COFS. Can not find anything in the help or on the internet. Is it short for something? I did notice a couple bugs relating to rounding off. If I set the elevation mask to 10 d

Re: [time-nuts] 1PPS users?

2016-12-19 Thread Bob Camp
Hi > On Dec 19, 2016, at 10:11 AM, Tom Van Baak wrote: > >> I believe the power industry is using GPS provided time to stamp power >> events for analysis as well. > > Chris, > > Yes, in fact one of the first applications of hp's SmartClock was just that: > > "Accurate Transmission Line Fault

Re: [time-nuts] 1PPS users?

2016-12-19 Thread David J Taylor
From: jimlux And pretty much any of these will ingest a 1pps + message, rather than, say, a 10 MHz reference. Why not just use the raw GPS 1pps (which is typically good to a few tens of ns)? GPS coverage/outage and random variation in the GPS 1pps A lot of them use a disciplined oscillator to

[time-nuts] Lady Heather for homebrew GPSDO

2016-12-19 Thread Mark Sims
Probably... the manual does not go into exact details of what they are sending. - > If the hex number isn't the DAC output voltage, what is it? The code being fed to the DAC? ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubsc

Re: [time-nuts] 1PPS users?

2016-12-19 Thread Tom Van Baak
> I believe the power industry is using GPS provided time to stamp power > events for analysis as well. Chris, Yes, in fact one of the first applications of hp's SmartClock was just that: "Accurate Transmission Line Fault Location Using Synchronized Sampling" http://leapsecond.com/hpan/an1276-1.

Re: [time-nuts] 1PPS users?

2016-12-19 Thread jimlux
On 12/19/16 6:28 AM, Chris Caudle wrote: On Sun, December 18, 2016 10:20 pm, Bob Stewart wrote: I do understand the reasons that these users want this quality of output. It's who these users are, what fields, industries, etc, that I didn't quite understand. Magnus wrote a paper recently on eff

Re: [time-nuts] 1PPS users?

2016-12-19 Thread Chris Caudle
On Sun, December 18, 2016 10:20 pm, Bob Stewart wrote: > I do understand the reasons that these users want this quality of > output. It's who these users are, what fields, industries, etc, that I > didn't quite understand. Magnus wrote a paper recently on effects of the GPS time slip (recent error

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather for homebrew GPSDO

2016-12-19 Thread Charles Steinmetz
Mark wrote: The Z3801A does have a request for getting/setting the DAC value as a absolute (hex) number. Neither format tells you what you really want to know... the actual DAC voltage. If the hex number isn't the DAC output voltage, what is it? The code being fed to the DAC? Just curio

Re: [time-nuts] 1PPS users?

2016-12-19 Thread Tim Shoppa
You know, there's a reason this list is called "time-nuts" and not "frequency-nuts" :-). But sometimes I wonder if "phase-nuts" might be a better term. It is so incredibly useful to put your best 1 PPS into a scope and use that to watch for systemic effects on your second-best clock. That's why w

Re: [time-nuts] 1PPS users?

2016-12-19 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The vast bulk of all GPSDO’s sold over the last three decades were sold because the first CDMA specification required that the basestation operate without a GPS signal for 24 hours. During that time the alignment of the Gold Codes is required to be within 10 us of “GPS time”. Once the codes

Re: [time-nuts] 1PPS users?

2016-12-19 Thread Esa Heikkinen
Hi Bob, One thing I've never really understood is who actually uses the high-quality 1PPS output from a GPSDO. I use it for NTP server, like many others also do around the world. -- 73s! Esa OH4KJU ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com T

Re: [time-nuts] 1PPS users?

2016-12-19 Thread Michael Wouters
One application is advanced network diagnostics eg cards like this: https://www.endace.com/endace-dag-high-speed-packet-capture-cards.html So for a 40 GbE card, time-stamping 1 kilobyte packets demands sub-microsecond accuracy, if you want to compare at different points in your network. Cheers Mi