Re: [time-nuts] [Summary] HP 115CR Clock Powerup / Documentation

2016-12-23 Thread Bill Hawkins
Got a 113BR clock many years ago because it looked like the clock in the Smithsonian. Used a 103 precision OCXO for the source. It is noisy. That's part of why it has a heavy metal case. I expect that a rebuilt stepping motor might have been quieter. I kept it in a larger wooden box lined with R19

Re: [time-nuts] [Summary] HP 115CR Clock Powerup / Documentation

2016-12-23 Thread paul swed
Looks like you have great advice. But I will add if the tantalums show the corrosion do not fire it up. Unless you like smoke and other damage. A good way to extend the time you will spend getting it going and cleaning up the acid all over everything. Lots-O-fun. Good luck and I have always heard t

Re: [time-nuts] [Summary] HP 115CR Clock Powerup / Documentation

2016-12-23 Thread Hugh Blemings
Hiya, My thanks for the various replies including to Luciano for the 115BR manual and Chuck for the timely advice about old caps! I'll take a put at summarising the various replies and my own observations now I've the 115BR Manual and the 115CR unit itself - any errors in same mine alone;

Re: [time-nuts] Could computers represent the timestamp differently?

2016-12-23 Thread Attila Kinali
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 13:10:30 + Peter Vince wrote: > Would it not make sense now for the > next generation of operating systems to do that? Yes, those who need to > find the elapsed time between two time-stamps would still have a problem, > but isn't the overwhelming major requirement just to

Re: [time-nuts] Could computers represent the timestamp differently?

2016-12-23 Thread Hal Murray
petervince1...@gmail.com said: > It seems to me that the major problem with the leap-second is the inability > of current computer operating systems to represent it, and this is due to > their using a second count since 1970 rather than writing it out as we would > by hand. Your suggestion doesn'

Re: [time-nuts] Could computers represent the timestamp differently?

2016-12-23 Thread Magnus Danielson
Peter, There is so many ways to solve this, and most of them have already been discussed and nothing really happend. Letting the time-stamp represent time in TAI and do UTC as presentation is less intrusive way of achieving the same thing. Yet, it has not happen. Essentially will the POSIX s

Re: [time-nuts] Could computers represent the timestamp differently?

2016-12-23 Thread Chris Albertson
Seconds from 1970 always works. The decision to add a leap second or not only effects the written out time and date. If you want to know the number of seconds between tow written out dates then you need to know if leap seconds were introduced. This is REALLY hard for distance further dates.

[time-nuts] Could computers represent the timestamp differently?

2016-12-23 Thread Peter Vince
It seems to me that the major problem with the leap-second is the inability of current computer operating systems to represent it, and this is due to their using a second count since 1970 rather than writing it out as we would by hand. While it doubtless made sense in the days of floppy discs to s

Re: [time-nuts] Problem with HP 83623A 20 GHz sweep generator stepping up/down 100 Hz when not wanted.

2016-12-23 Thread Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd)
On 22 December 2016 at 20:54, Bill Byrom wrote: > Read about the synthesizer design of that generator here: > > https://ia600407.us.archive.org/10/items/Hewlett-Packard_ > Journal_Vol._42_No._2_1991-04_Hewlett-Packard/Hewlett- > Packard_Journal_Vol._42_No._2_1991-04_Hewlett-Packard.pdf > Cheers,

Re: [time-nuts] Problem with HP 83623A 20 GHz sweep generator stepping up/down 100 Hz when not wanted.

2016-12-23 Thread Bob Camp
Hi On a sweep generator with a magnet tuned YIG, supply ripple is a very common issue …. Bob > On Dec 22, 2016, at 9:00 PM, n2lym wrote: > > Hi Bob, > > I don't have issues at 60, 120, or 180Hz in a 60Hz country. Even with a 500KV > line a few thousand feet away. I can hear the corona on th

Re: [time-nuts] Problem with HP 83623A 20 GHz sweep generator stepping up/down 100 Hz when not wanted.

2016-12-23 Thread Scott McGrath
I think case #1 tells you that the frequency step is not occurring on the sweeper as both The source and receiver are locked to GPS and no trace of the step effect is seen I would be much more inclined to think that the transverter is encountering some type of power supply related artifact.

Re: [time-nuts] HP 115CR Clock Powerup / Documentation

2016-12-23 Thread Eric Scace
Hello Hugh & Luciano — Luciano: Hugh said his clock was a 115CR, not BR. The CR has the mechanical digital display. I have a 115BR that I want to bring back on the air after about 30 years of power-off in my father’s lab. The state of any electrolytic and tantalum capacitors after that m

Re: [time-nuts] HP 115CR Clock Powerup / Documentation

2016-12-23 Thread Chuck Harris
They are fun little (ha, ha) clocks. There really is no need to ramp up power. Go for broke, and turn it on. The only issue you will find in these is a host of wet tantalum caps that may, or may not be bad. They are on terminal strips, and are the caps in silver plated metal cans with teflon se

Re: [time-nuts] HP 115CR Clock Powerup / Documentation

2016-12-23 Thread timeok
Hi, I have the complete manual of the HP115BR. Pse contact me directly to send you the file. If you need I can suggest some service activity normally are needed by this old clock. Luciano, tim...@timeok.it From "time-nuts" time-nuts-boun...@febo.com To time-nuts@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] Problem with HP 83623A 20 GHz sweep generator stepping up/down 100 Hz when not wanted.

2016-12-23 Thread n2lym
Hi Bob, I don't have issues at 60, 120, or 180Hz in a 60Hz country. Even with a 500KV line a few thousand feet away. I can hear the corona on the ham bands at times. Mike On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 05:15 PM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi In a country with 50 Hz power lines, figuring out anything a