Re: [time-nuts] WWV 25 MHz antenna switched to circular polarization

2017-07-16 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Not in the least bit uncommon propagation at those frequencies and this time of year. Bob > On Jul 16, 2017, at 8:44 PM, Clay Autery wrote: > > Prop shifted... I tuned to it before I left for Home Depot at 1600 hrs > CST, and it was strong It was GONE by 1830 hrs. > > ___

Re: [time-nuts] WWV 25 MHz antenna switched to circular polarization

2017-07-16 Thread Magnus Danielson
Solar wind conditions is such that right now things is flakey. Cheers, Magnus (at 1400 m in Lichtenstein on a mini DX expedition - we had to give up for the night) On 07/17/2017 02:44 AM, Clay Autery wrote: Prop shifted... I tuned to it before I left for Home Depot at 1600 hrs CST, and it wa

Re: [time-nuts] DAC performance [WAS: Papers on timing for lunar laser ranging]

2017-07-16 Thread Bob kb8tq
HI This is a limitation on an OCXO based GPSDO. That’s really the bottom line here. It’s a limitation in an OCXO based part, but not in one based on an Rb or a Cs. If the added component costs far more than a Cs, it’s not an answer. Bob > On Jul 16, 2017, at 7:25 PM, Chris Albertson > wrot

Re: [time-nuts] WWV 25 MHz antenna switched to circular polarization

2017-07-16 Thread Clay Autery
Prop shifted... I tuned to it before I left for Home Depot at 1600 hrs CST, and it was strong It was GONE by 1830 hrs. __ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 7/16/2017 6:32 PM, paul swed wrote: > Not hearing wwv on 25 MHz but 15 is fine. Using a beam a

Re: [time-nuts] DAC performance [WAS: Papers on timing for lunar laser ranging]

2017-07-16 Thread Chris Albertson
What about josephson standards? After all, this is "Time Nuts" and we are allowed to propose silly-complex solutions to simple problems if it improves performance even a little. But seriously I thought the issue of making a perfect voltage standard was solved because the Volt is defined to be wh

Re: [time-nuts] WWV 25 MHz antenna switched to circular polarization

2017-07-16 Thread Don Murray via time-nuts
FYI...   I was hearing WWV/25 several weeks ago peaking S8 here in Central Texas...  WWV/20 was inaudible!  ;-)   Path 155 degrees 795 miles...    Below from the NIST.gov Web Page:    As of 2042 UTC 7 July 2017 the 25 MHz broadcast is now on a turnstile antenna with circular polarization and will

Re: [time-nuts] WWV 25 MHz antenna switched to circular polarization

2017-07-16 Thread Christopher Hoover
On Jul 16, 2017 4:49 PM, "Brian, WA1ZMS" wrote: FWIW.We're at an 11 yr low for solar activity. Thus no big suprise that 25MHz is not covering the US very well, but a rare opening is always possible. +1 de ai6kg ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-n

Re: [time-nuts] WWV 25 MHz antenna switched to circular polarization

2017-07-16 Thread Brian, WA1ZMS
FWIW.We're at an 11 yr low for solar activity. Thus no big suprise that 25MHz is not covering the US very well, but a rare opening is always possible. -Brian > On Jul 16, 2017, at 7:32 PM, paul swed wrote: > > Not hearing wwv on 25 MHz but 15 is fine. Using a beam and r1051 receiver. > Mayb

Re: [time-nuts] WWV 25 MHz antenna switched to circular polarization

2017-07-16 Thread paul swed
Not hearing wwv on 25 MHz but 15 is fine. Using a beam and r1051 receiver. Maybe its not on for the weekend. Its a 2 KW signal so should be able to hear something. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 9:29 PM, paul swed wrote: > Sorry its a bit lower in the site that they resumed broadcas

Re: [time-nuts] DAC performance [WAS: Papers on timing for lunar laser ranging]

2017-07-16 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi > On Jul 16, 2017, at 6:33 PM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist > wrote: > > > > On 7/16/2017 1:51 PM, Bob kb8tq wrote: >> Hi >> One gotcha with any ADC or DAC is going to be the reference. There, you are >> in the same >> “get what you pay for” dilemma. Stable and noisy, can do. Quiet and not ve

Re: [time-nuts] DAC performance [WAS: Papers on timing for lunar laser ranging]

2017-07-16 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 7/16/2017 1:51 PM, Bob kb8tq wrote: Hi One gotcha with any ADC or DAC is going to be the reference. There, you are in the same “get what you pay for” dilemma. Stable and noisy, can do. Quiet and not very stable, can do. Both stable and quiet, not so easy if you want it cheap. Noise can a

Re: [time-nuts] DAC performance [WAS: Papers on timing for lunar laser ranging]

2017-07-16 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi One gotcha with any ADC or DAC is going to be the reference. There, you are in the same “get what you pay for” dilemma. Stable and noisy, can do. Quiet and not very stable, can do. Both stable and quiet, not so easy if you want it cheap. Noise can also be the sigma delta ADC’s weak point.

Re: [time-nuts] DAC performance [WAS: Papers on timing for lunar laser ranging]

2017-07-16 Thread Charles Steinmetz
Bert wrote: We limited to affordable and solderable. The LTC1655 was the clear winner because of linearity and temperature * * * Five years later I know no better alternative Well, to name just the first one that comes to mind, how about the LTC1650? Like the 1655, it is a

Re: [time-nuts] Papers on timing for lunar laser ranging

2017-07-16 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
As part of our GPSDO work Richard Mc Corkle and I tested multiple DAC's using hardware I developed and Richard wrote the code. We limited to affordable and solderable. The LTC1655 was the clear winner because of linearity and temperature, see attached. We tested dithering 20 bits and stackin

Re: [time-nuts] Papers on timing for lunar laser ranging

2017-07-16 Thread Attila Kinali
On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 11:42:44 -0700 Tim Lister wrote: > Forgive the ignorance, but why is there a large disparity between ADC > and DAC capabilities ? > For example, Linear Technology sell a 24 bit ADC for ~$7 but an 18 bit > DAC is $30-50... Much simplified, it boils down to it being easier to me