Re: [time-nuts] a newbie question: where can I purchase 794.7nm VCSEL for building CPT rubidium clock?

2018-06-14 Thread Hal Murray
k8yumdoo...@gmail.com said: > I've been told that CD player type diodes can be successfully modulated up to > about 600 MHz, but that going much further is either difficult or perhaps > impossible. Are DVD lasers faster? -- These are my opinions. I hate spam.

Re: [time-nuts] Affordable PoE 6-digit time displays?

2018-06-14 Thread Hal Murray
bow...@gmail.com said: > I’m still hunting for something that will take NTP in and put IRIG out. > There > is probably someone doing it with a Pi or an Arduino. There is a module in the ntp package/collection that puts out IRIG from the system clock. You can use NTP if you want to keep

Re: [time-nuts] Affordable PoE 6-digit time displays?

2018-06-14 Thread Bob Bownes
If you can snag something that will put out IRIG-B, there are lots of choices. I’m still hunting for something that will take NTP in and put IRIG out. There is probably someone doing it with a Pi or an Arduino. Bob > On Jun 14, 2018, at 21:38, Chris Howard wrote: > > Maybe not exactly,

Re: [time-nuts] a newbie question: where can I purchase 794.7nm VCSEL for building CPT rubidium clock?

2018-06-14 Thread Dana Whitlow
I've been told that CD player type diodes can be successfully modulated up to about 600 MHz, but that going much further is either difficult or perhaps impossible. This came from a guy (at Tektronix) who worked with various types of diode lasers a lot, back in the 1980's. But at least they are

Re: [time-nuts] Spectracom 8140T Line Tap Schematic

2018-06-14 Thread Charles Steinmetz
Julien wrote: I'm somewhat tempted to take the schematic and see if I can fit it in the comparatively tiny Pomona boxes Before getting too excited about the various 8140 module designs, it may be worth reflecting that the performance of the 8140 system is mediocre at best from a time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Affordable PoE 6-digit time displays?

2018-06-14 Thread Chris Howard
Maybe not exactly, but I use an app on an old Android cell phone as my UTC wall clock. Large characters in horizontal mode; NTP via WiFi. ⁣Sent from BlueMail ​ On Jun 14, 2018, 20:15, at 20:15, David Andersen wrote: >I'd hoped that ebay or aliexpress would yield a bounty given how

Re: [time-nuts] Affordable PoE 6-digit time displays?

2018-06-14 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi I think this is one of those really small market items. You can probably cobble one together from bits and pieces for less than you can buy a good one. Bob > On Jun 14, 2018, at 9:15 PM, David Andersen wrote: > > I'd hoped that ebay or aliexpress would yield a bounty given how seemingly >

[time-nuts] Affordable PoE 6-digit time displays?

2018-06-14 Thread David Andersen
I'd hoped that ebay or aliexpress would yield a bounty given how seemingly simple these are, but I'm drawing a blank (and finding a lot of $300+ new options). Anyone have a favorite source for either flat wall-mount or rackmount displays that will pull from an NTP/SNTP/whatever server? (if

Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-14 Thread Attila Kinali
On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 15:14:55 +0200 Magnus Danielson wrote: > Do we have the raw measurements in a readable format? Yes, you can find them at http://time.kinali.ch/phase_data/luciano/ Attila Kinali -- It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All

Re: [time-nuts] a newbie question: where can I purchase 794.7nm VCSEL for building CPT rubidium clock?

2018-06-14 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 22:29:42 +0800 mimitech mimitech wrote: > I think your information is very interesting. I didn't realize which type > of common LDs can do GHz level modulation (anyway I didn’t have much > knowledge on laser diode before). Hehe. Same here. When I looked into CPT I thought

Re: [time-nuts] Spectracom 8140T Line Tap Schematic

2018-06-14 Thread Dana Whitlow
Hi Bob & Julien, Why bother with the short on the downstream end of that DC-blocking attenuator? At 10 MHz I'd expect leakage radiation to be negligible. Dana On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 10:43 AM, Bob kb8tq wrote: > Hi > > > On Jun 14, 2018, at 9:31 AM, gandalfg8--- via time-nuts < >

Re: [time-nuts] Spectracom 8140T Line Tap Schematic

2018-06-14 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi > On Jun 14, 2018, at 9:31 AM, gandalfg8--- via time-nuts > wrote: > > > Hi Julien, > > > > Earlier replies that discussed removing the DC supply from the 8140 outputs > gave me the impression your requirement was to connect directly the outputs > of the 8140 without line tap

Re: [time-nuts] Spectracom 8140T Line Tap Schematic

2018-06-14 Thread Julien Goodwin
On 14/06/18 23:31, gandalfg8--- via time-nuts wrote: > Earlier replies that discussed removing the DC supply from the 8140 outputs > gave me the impression your requirement was to connect directly the outputs > of the 8140 without line tap modules, which is what I was addressing with my >

[time-nuts] PRS10 lamp voltage

2018-06-14 Thread Jean-Paul Sabatier
Hello, I am a new subscriber to the list ! I am located in France and I play with time and frequency instruments on my free time. Recently I've bought an used FS725 unit with a PRS10 oscillator in it. I was wondering how can I estimated the age of the Rubidium oscillator. I think the age is

Re: [time-nuts] Spectracom 8140T Line Tap Schematic

2018-06-14 Thread gandalfg8--- via time-nuts
Hi Julien, Earlier replies that discussed removing the DC supply from the 8140 outputs gave me the impression your requirement was to connect directly the outputs of the 8140 without line tap modules, which is what I was addressing with my recent suggestion of a series capacitor, but can

Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-14 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi, All I have seen so far is an ADEV plot, and that is not a good tool to estimate such systematics in. I would like to see the phase & frequency data, it would probably be better for this type of diagnostics. Do we have the raw measurements in a readable format? Cheers, Magnus On 06/14/2018

Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-14 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi I’d say both have a “something” with a period of roughly 18 to 20 hours in their data runs. Bob > On Jun 14, 2018, at 4:54 AM, Attila Kinali wrote: > > On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 08:19:58 -0700 > wrote: > >> Would be interesting to see a long plot of the two 5065 against each >> other! > > I

Re: [time-nuts] Spectracom 8140T Line Tap Schematic

2018-06-14 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi I think you would find a *lot* of smaller outfits “back in the day” running hand soldering lines. Small scale wave solder for through hole did not catch on the way reflow has for SMT. Dip solder was a rare item …. Bob > On Jun 13, 2018, at 11:28 PM, Charles Steinmetz wrote: > > Nigel

Re: [time-nuts] Seeking Toyocom or NDK through hole oscillator information

2018-06-14 Thread jimlux
On 6/14/18 4:27 AM, Tim Shoppa wrote: Quoting Wikipedia; 16.368 MHz is 16 times the 1.023 MHz C/A GPS signal chipping rate; multiplied by 96.25 to get the 1575.42 MHz L1 frequency and multiplied by 75 to get the 1227.60 MHz L2 frequency. Possibly something Trimble significant with the 16.368

Re: [time-nuts] Seeking Toyocom or NDK through hole oscillator information

2018-06-14 Thread Tim Shoppa
Quoting Wikipedia; 16.368 MHz is 16 times the 1.023 MHz C/A GPS signal chipping rate; multiplied by 96.25 to get the 1575.42 MHz L1 frequency and multiplied by 75 to get the 1227.60 MHz L2 frequency. > On Jun 14, 2018, at 1:53 AM, skipp isaham via time-nuts > wrote: > > Seeking Toyocom or

Re: [time-nuts] Spectracom 8140T Line Tap Schematic

2018-06-14 Thread Julien Goodwin
I'm somewhat tempted to take the schematic and see if I can fit it in the comparatively tiny Pomona boxes, although I have far too many side projects already, enough 10MHz taps, and I still need to do the terminators. The VersaTaps are supposed to be an actual synthesizer IIRC.

Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-14 Thread Attila Kinali
On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 08:19:58 -0700 wrote: > Would be interesting to see a long plot of the two 5065 against each > other! I had a look at Luciano's data and it's probably safe to say, that the instability of the super-5065 would be the limit. The unmodified 5065 is incredibly stable (once you