Re: [time-nuts] Ships fooled in GPS spoofing attack suggest Russian cyberweapon

2017-08-15 Thread Chris Albertson
). New roads appear, old ones occasionally get > moved. > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- Chris Albertson Redon

Re: [time-nuts] Ships fooled in GPS spoofing attack suggest Russian cyberweapon

2017-08-14 Thread Chris Albertson
gt; _______ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Ships fooled in GPS spoofing attack suggest Russian cyberweapon

2017-08-14 Thread Chris Albertson
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Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Thunderbolt no longer determines the correct date

2017-08-11 Thread Chris Albertson
ut an in-line device has to be built for each user. -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Can Lady Heather set PC time directly from a TrimbleThunderbolt?

2017-08-04 Thread Chris Albertson
Usually you can start with you application and work backwards to place a requirement on time accuracy On the other hand this is a "time nuts" list and some people here just want the BEST they can get. I'm not a fan of Meinberg because of the way they market freely available s

Re: [time-nuts] Can Lady Heather set PC time directly from a Trimble Thunderbolt?

2017-08-03 Thread Chris Albertson
_ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Local System Time Sync

2017-07-26 Thread Chris Albertson
ime, it is always wrong. > > What am I missing here ? > > Thanks, > > Lee > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there

Re: [time-nuts] DAC performance [WAS: Papers on timing for lunar laser ranging]

2017-07-16 Thread Chris Albertson
ey still don’t seem to have the hysteresis problem licked. Yes, you can > do an oversized reference > and take care of the issue. More or less that’s what you would have done > 20 years ago. > > Bob > > > > > > Rick N6RK > > ____

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Monitor Kit by KO4BB

2017-07-04 Thread Chris Albertson
gt; Perhaps he will do a post showing his implementation. > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- Chris Albertson Redo

Re: [time-nuts] PI Zero W LED Desktop Clock with 10ths of Seconds / NTP disciplined

2017-07-02 Thread Chris Albertson
There already exists an NTP for ESP8266. At least a simple one. Look over on GitHub. On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 5:27 AM, Tim Shoppa wrote: > I have been thinking about doing similar with an ESP8266 controller -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, Califor

Re: [time-nuts] Power connectors continued

2017-06-26 Thread Chris Albertson
02764391?hash=item3f7e59f567:g:UA8AAOSwi7RZNQDE> I think these win the bang per buck contest. For a buck each, these are not machined from brass, I think molded pot metal and chromed. -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing l

Re: [time-nuts] GPScon running on Raspberry Pi 3b

2017-06-26 Thread Chris Albertson
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Re: [time-nuts] Latest Lady Heather

2017-06-26 Thread Chris Albertson
an "unlisted number." > > Thanks, > > Wes > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m > ailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and f

Re: [time-nuts] Anderson PowerPole (was Charles Wenzel GPSDO)

2017-06-23 Thread Chris Albertson
I > knew better, but temporarily slipped an alkaline 9V battery into a > trouser pocket, where it was shorted by my keys and became extremely hot > very rapidly. The peak current might reach 10 A (depending on the > battery chemistry and how it's shorted), so the battery hea

Re: [time-nuts] GPScon running on Raspberry Pi 3b

2017-06-23 Thread Chris Albertson
n > > connector you can connect a level shifter two. One port is normally the > > Linux serial console which you can configure to be a general purpose -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@f

Re: [time-nuts] Power connectors continued

2017-06-22 Thread Chris Albertson
; > > Mark Spencer > > m...@alignedsolutions.com > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. --

Re: [time-nuts] Anderson PowerPole (was Charles Wenzel GPSDO)

2017-06-22 Thread Chris Albertson
seen the XT60. Thanks for the heads up - looks promising - and cheap. > > Brent > > On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 12:48 PM, Chris Albertson > wrote: > >> One of the problems of power poles is they are expensive. Not a >> problem if you only need a few of them. I've been

Re: [time-nuts] How to love your Power Poles.

2017-06-22 Thread Chris Albertson
go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Anderson PowerPole (was Charles Wenzel GPSDO)

2017-06-22 Thread Chris Albertson
mated; or just use a > square or figure 8 knot on the cables. > > /tvb > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >

Re: [time-nuts] TruePosition on the Arduino

2017-06-20 Thread Chris Albertson
) >> thanks much and 73, >> ben, kd5byb >> == >> Sent from iPad Air >> ___ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts &g

Re: [time-nuts] GPScon running on Raspberry Pi 3b

2017-06-20 Thread Chris Albertson
it looks to me like Olgierdhas a working INTEL linux os running on the Pi3. He installed Wine on the Intel Linux not on the ARM Linux It looks like maybe Michael has an ARM version of linux running native on the Pi3 Wine will not run on that If you need to run Wine, you need to fist have an IN

Re: [time-nuts] Hints on PPS Buffer design...

2017-06-17 Thread Chris Albertson
st -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] GPS splitter

2017-06-17 Thread Chris Albertson
mes a GPS receiver will raise an "Antenna Alarm" if it does not see a DC load but you can turn those off with a serial command -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Control Systems (was: uC ADC resolution)

2017-06-11 Thread Chris Albertson
eedback Control of Dynamic Systems", by Franklin, Powell, > Emami-Naeini. -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] uC ADC resolution (was: Poor man's oven)

2017-06-10 Thread Chris Albertson
ilter the switching noise from a low frequency dither) -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] uC ADC resolution (was: Poor man's oven)

2017-06-10 Thread Chris Albertson
mal crystal will >> become a pretty major issue. >> >> Simple rule of thumb - add at least two bits past whatever the target is. >> More or less, if you *are* after 0.1C and that comes out to 6 bits, you >> need >> eight solid bits to get things to wor

Re: [time-nuts] uC ADC resolution (was: Poor man's oven)

2017-06-07 Thread Chris Albertson
; together. > Not glass walls. Stainless steel. The metal wall make it uniform. I occurred to be that you could fill the container with a liquid. Something that has good thermal conductivity and it would be very uniform inside. I don't know what, transformer oil perhaps? -- Chr

Re: [time-nuts] uC ADC resolution (was: Poor man's oven)

2017-06-07 Thread Chris Albertson
th a 5V Vref). > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, Cali

Re: [time-nuts] uC ADC resolution (was: Poor man's oven)

2017-06-06 Thread Chris Albertson
ery dichange below a limit so I'm sampling voltage at 1Hz. Got a link to or the name of the app note? > > -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Poor man's oven

2017-06-06 Thread Chris Albertson
nsors. I guess one could use the crystal frequency as a measure of its temperature to tune the system. Is there a name to Google to read up on using two sensors and a pid-like algorithm? -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts maili

Re: [time-nuts] Poor man's oven

2017-06-06 Thread Chris Albertson
___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California _

Re: [time-nuts] Poor man's oven

2017-06-06 Thread Chris Albertson
be large compared to the heat from a full-on heater so that the rate of change looks slow compared to your control loop cycle. -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to htt

Re: [time-nuts] Poor man's oven

2017-06-05 Thread Chris Albertson
s > > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m > ailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, C

Re: [time-nuts] Poor man's oven

2017-06-05 Thread Chris Albertson
them. > Ulf - SM6GXV > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- Chris Albertson Redon

Re: [time-nuts] PPS sync

2017-06-05 Thread Chris Albertson
d follow the instructions there. > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- Chris Albertson Redondo B

Re: [time-nuts] poor-man's oven

2017-06-05 Thread Chris Albertson
igh gain amplifier that was in effect counting electrons. On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 2:15 AM, Attila Kinali wrote: > On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 22:01:45 -0700 > Chris Albertson wrote: > > > Voltage is proportional to the product of resistance and absolute > > temperature. As an experime

Re: [time-nuts] PPS sync

2017-06-04 Thread Chris Albertson
s mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list --

Re: [time-nuts] poor-man's oven

2017-06-04 Thread Chris Albertson
> facts that needs altering. -- The Doctor > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructi

Re: [time-nuts] poor-man's oven

2017-06-04 Thread Chris Albertson
as the sensor. > (discussions of TE devices too) > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m > ailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > --

Re: [time-nuts] The future of Telecom Frequency Standard surplus

2017-06-01 Thread Chris Albertson
wledge. > > Thanks; > > > Thomas Knox > 1-303-554-0307 > act...@hotmail.com > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions

Re: [time-nuts] Machining some aluminum help!

2017-05-25 Thread Chris Albertson
: > ..., you can save a lot of grief by using a slightly larger bit than the > standard tap drill. You're not really too concerned with optimal fit and > strength here - it's more about being able to make a whole lot of usable > screw holes without losing too many bits and taps

Re: [time-nuts] Machining some aluminum help!

2017-05-25 Thread Chris Albertson
; as gasket-plane screwdriver slots, or extra tapped through-holes in line > with the mounting holes on of the lid. > > Ed > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/list

Re: [time-nuts] GNSS Disciplined Clock

2017-05-25 Thread Chris Albertson
o unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] TruePosition and Arduino Progress

2017-05-21 Thread Chris Albertson
set, update the clock then clear the flag and repeat. > > > > On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Chris Albertson > wrote: > >> To add to my last message. >> >> You CAN collect all the data then parse it like you are doing if you >> were to move to an interrupt

Re: [time-nuts] TruePosition and Arduino Progress

2017-05-21 Thread Chris Albertson
interrupted while the display updates so th ring buffer might get filled up a little. But the ISR terminals the parser clears the buffer. On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: > The problem is that you get the ENTIRE string then parse it. This is > not going to work well

Re: [time-nuts] TruePosition and Arduino Progress

2017-05-21 Thread Chris Albertson
upt...but I couldn't make > that work yesterday. More to follow. > > thanks much and 73, > ben, kd5byb > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listi

Re: [time-nuts] Machining some aluminum help!

2017-05-19 Thread Chris Albertson
m >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m >> ailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> >> > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://

Re: [time-nuts] Machining some aluminum help!

2017-05-19 Thread Chris Albertson
> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California

Re: [time-nuts] Machining some aluminum help!

2017-05-19 Thread Chris Albertson
reassemble. On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 5:13 PM, jimlux wrote: > On 5/18/17 2:36 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: > >> It would be easy to re-design the job for cheaper machining.. Do you >> really need to tap the holes? You might use self taping screws. Id the >> would work then

Re: [time-nuts] Machining some aluminum help!

2017-05-18 Thread Chris Albertson
___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California __

Re: [time-nuts] Machining some aluminum help!

2017-05-18 Thread Chris Albertson
ld do the work a bit cheaper? > > If not I'll give it a try myself. > > Please contact me off list. > > Thanks! > > Corby Dawson > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://ww

Re: [time-nuts] Machining some aluminum help!

2017-05-18 Thread Chris Albertson
! > > > > Corby Dawson > > > > ___ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there

Re: [time-nuts] GPS seconds conversion on an Arduino

2017-05-15 Thread Chris Albertson
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Ben Hall wrote: > Hi Chris and list, > > On 5/15/2017 1:22 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: > >> Are you still going for Sidereal time? If so that is floating point >> > > I'm not sure how Sidereal time came up...it wasn't

Re: [time-nuts] GPS seconds conversion on an Arduino

2017-05-15 Thread Chris Albertson
ith both Arduino and mbed. On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Ben Hall wrote: > Hi Chris and list, > > On 5/15/2017 1:22 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: > >> Are you still going for Sidereal time? If so that is floating point >> > > I'm not sure how Sidereal tim

Re: [time-nuts] GPS seconds conversion on an Arduino

2017-05-15 Thread Chris Albertson
order one of those $10 Saleae >> clones this evening. That Saleae clone analyzer would be just the ticket >> to see if the time information is coming from the serial port before the >> 1PPS tick. This is what is written in the little TruePosition information >> we

Re: [time-nuts] GPS seconds conversion on an Arduino

2017-05-14 Thread Chris Albertson
NMEA...but output their own format of message. One > message contains GPS time in seconds...plus the number of leap seconds that > have elapsed, so my goal there was to convert the GPS time from the unit > into normal UTC date and time. > > On 5/14/2017 12:38 PM, Chris Albertson wro

Re: [time-nuts] GPS seconds conversion on an Arduino

2017-05-14 Thread Chris Albertson
s. So depending on how accurate you need to be this can use a LOT of 64-bit floating point math. -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/li

Re: [time-nuts] GPS seconds conversion on an Arduino

2017-05-14 Thread Chris Albertson
hmetic (long longs) opens up a whole new can of > worms. > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow th

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for a HP-58503 display

2017-05-09 Thread Chris Albertson
gt; > The display (VFD) is a bit dim and blotchy. > > Does anybody have a replacement display that would look better? > > - Mark > -- > Sent from iPad Air > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] How get FEI-Zyfer 380 GPSDO to talk with computer?

2017-05-04 Thread Chris Albertson
e Linux package. It’s a fairly obvious name. I’d > bet it got > re-used a couple of times. The docs on gpsd refer to it’s own tangled > history in this > regard. It’s certainly worth trying. I simply would not chuck the GPSDO > in the trash > if it does not work :) > > Bob >

Re: [time-nuts] How get FEI-Zyfer 380 GPSDO to talk with computer?

2017-05-03 Thread Chris Albertson
list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.co

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-29 Thread Chris Albertson
I mill plates such as these is I surface a piece of > scrap and then glue (using superglue) the stock down onto the scrap. I can > then machine around the edges without worrying about clamping. With > pockets though, the torque even when ramping down might break the part > loose. >

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-28 Thread Chris Albertson
> >> -- > >> Best wishes, > >> > >> Larry McDavid W6FUB > >> Anaheim, California (SE of Los Angeles, near Disneyland) > > ___ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to >

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency counter questions

2017-04-24 Thread Chris Albertson
On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Bob kb8tq wrote: > Hi > > Some of the process below is “not trivial”. One example: > > You have a “gate” from the GPSDO and a “signal” from somewhere else. If you > want the STM to do the whole thing, the “gate” pin needs to get the job > done in > X +/- 1 cycle

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency counter questions

2017-04-24 Thread Chris Albertson
can serve a web page and then you see the frequency on your phone. Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency counter questions

2017-04-23 Thread Chris Albertson
read some registers and > control > > the user interface. > > > > The time stamping idea is not bad. But today you do NOT need to "post > > process". Your little processor could do this in nearly real-time and > > you'd have results on the screen i

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency counter questions

2017-04-23 Thread Chris Albertson
-time and you'd have results on the screen in seconds. -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency counter questions

2017-04-23 Thread Chris Albertson
hanler > dot com. This is for my own non-commercial use. > > Thanks! > > Jerry > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Car Clock drift - the lowly 32kHz tuning fork

2017-04-12 Thread Chris Albertson
to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Car Clock drift - the lowly 32kHz tuning fork crystal specs

2017-04-09 Thread Chris Albertson
e there? What I live the clocks always gain time, a minute every could mounts. It seems I always have to set the time back a minute or two. But then it really never gets cold here, maybe a dip below 50F at night in the winter -- Chris Albertson Redondo B

Re: [time-nuts] Time Dilation tinkering

2017-03-22 Thread Chris Albertson
; good sign when your clock changes by 2e-11 (that's more than 1 ns per > minute) just because of ambient pressure changes. > -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go t

Re: [time-nuts] Time Dilation tinkering

2017-03-21 Thread Chris Albertson
gt; >> [2] I presume at a minimum a counter running at a 5ns or less "tick" fed > >> from a frequency source locked to the 10MHz of the Rb standard. This > >> counter would need to be latched for reading from an external signal so > &

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts equipment verification from scratch (was: WTB: GPSDO)

2017-03-21 Thread Chris Albertson
> - > > > Did you use the Arduino's PWM output plus a LPF for the DAC, or a > separate > DAC? If PWM, did you have problems with noise or sensitivity to the > USB-provided supply voltage? > ___ > time-nuts mailing

Re: [time-nuts] Four hour cycle in GPS NMEA jitter

2017-03-21 Thread Chris Albertson
20 Mar 2017 15:19:25 -0700 > Chris Albertson wrote: > > > I've only hear of 1 uS being broken with hardware. > > A Raspberry Pi can get down to a Standard Deviation of about 350 nano > seconds > using NTPsec.. > > https://blog.ntpsec

Re: [time-nuts] Four hour cycle in GPS NMEA jitter

2017-03-20 Thread Chris Albertson
with hardware.You would actually not ned to write much software to make this happen, just move the counter outside the CPU to the FPGA and you about have it. Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To

Re: [time-nuts] Smart Phone time display accuracy...?

2017-03-17 Thread Chris Albertson
> AndroiTS GPS Test (V 1.48 Free) is good, but a battery hog I find. On > my Moto G, I find that it can handle not only the US GPS system, but > three other systems too, including Glonass, and I think the new Chinese > system. I don't recognise the last symbol, maybe Galileo. Not bad for > a co

Re: [time-nuts] Smart Phone time display accuracy...?

2017-03-16 Thread Chris Albertson
> Not to gloat, but my Android phone is always spot on. I have a GPS time > app that shows the difference between GPS and phone time and it's always in > the tenths of a second area. "tenths of a second" is "spot on"? No way. That is a difference that is perceivable to humans. Apple claims i

Re: [time-nuts] Smart Phone time display accuracy...?

2017-03-16 Thread Chris Albertson
ctions there. > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California __

Re: [time-nuts] Smart Phone time display accuracy...?

2017-03-16 Thread Chris Albertson
ccumulate to some unknown degree. Any > thoughts on this? > > Mike Baker > * > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > a

Re: [time-nuts] WTB: GPSDO

2017-03-16 Thread Chris Albertson
say $50 for everything from antenna to power cord. I think it can be done but one can only verify longer term stability. (Yes you were correct a GOOD oversized XO is not sensitive to the environment. But notice the above budget.) -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach,

Re: [time-nuts] WTB: GPSDO

2017-03-14 Thread Chris Albertson
more known-good oscillators and you can measure beat frequencies between them. On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Tim Lister wrote: > On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Chris Albertson > wrote: >> A GPSDO is not hard to make. All you need is some way to compare the >> phase of two sig

Re: [time-nuts] Bye-Bye Crystals

2017-03-14 Thread Chris Albertson
o.com > time-nuts is a low volume, high SNR list for the discussion of precise time > and frequency measurement and related topics. To see the collection of prior > postings to ... > > > >>> and follow the instructions there. >> >> _____

Re: [time-nuts] WTB: GPSDO

2017-03-10 Thread Chris Albertson
GPSDO in solid operational condition, kindly >>> contact me off list. Thanks! >>> >>> 73/jeff/ac0c >>> www.ac0c.com >>> alpha-charlie-zero-charlie > _______ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https:/

Re: [time-nuts] advice

2017-02-22 Thread Chris Albertson
est design itself. > > Thanks in advance!! > --- > Rhoderick Beery > direct: 402-817-9363 > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nut

Re: [time-nuts] ``direct'' RS-232 vs. RS-232 via USB vs. PPS decoding cards

2017-02-18 Thread Chris Albertson
56 64 377 46.0892.220 2.535 > -129.250.35.250 249.224.99.213 2 u 169 64 214 42.499 -3.015 > 12.507 > -213.130.44.252 145.238.203.14 2 u 487 64 200 37.210 -0.725 > 13.232 > > 73, > David GM8ARV > -- > SatSignal Software - Quality software written to

Re: [time-nuts] ``direct'' RS-232 vs. RS-232 via USB vs. PPS decoding cards

2017-02-18 Thread Chris Albertson
ink my main point is correct: what you care about in the uncertainty in the process, not the numbers like delay and offset, it's the error bars in those numbers On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: > You are plotting "offset". This is simply the communications pa

Re: [time-nuts] Installing GPS Antenna

2017-02-18 Thread Chris Albertson
unted as high, still 10' or so is common without guy wires. > > Thanks. > > Michael > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. --

Re: [time-nuts] ``direct'' RS-232 vs. RS-232 via USB vs. PPS decoding cards

2017-02-16 Thread Chris Albertson
of a real-time process running on that one computer. In this special case it makes sense to connect GPS PPS to the computer and use no other source of time. On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Gary E. Miller wrote: > Yo Chris! > > On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 23:48:39 -0800 > Chris Albertso

Re: [time-nuts] ``direct'' RS-232 vs. RS-232 via USB vs. PPS decoding cards

2017-02-16 Thread Chris Albertson
barrier is not easy On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 9:59 AM, shouldbe q931 wrote: > On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 7:55 AM, Chris Albertson > wrote: >> >> But PTP requires special hardware. You may not have this. >> > > I have to disagree. > > I run PTP on a Raspberry Pi

Re: [time-nuts] ``direct'' RS-232 vs. RS-232 via USB vs. PPS decoding cards

2017-02-16 Thread Chris Albertson
to do BTW I first learned about NTP formerly this same reason. I was writing firmware for an astronomical CCD camera and we wanted to know EXACTLY when exposures started and stopped. On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 7:09 PM, MLewis wrote: > On 15/02/2017 1:17 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: >> &

Re: [time-nuts] ``direct'' RS-232 vs. RS-232 via USB vs. PPS decoding cards

2017-02-16 Thread Chris Albertson
On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 11:48 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: > On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 10:30 PM, Ruslan Nabioullin > wrote: >> On 02/15/2017 01:17 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: >>> >>> Why set up a dedicated NTP server if you only have two computers >>> that will

Re: [time-nuts] ``direct'' RS-232 vs. RS-232 via USB vs. PPS decoding cards

2017-02-15 Thread Chris Albertson
at least three servers (and more like five). When > given only two > servers NTP simply dithers back and forth between them. It does not have > a way to figure out which of two clocks is wrong. It will detect a missing > clock, but > not one that is simply off time by a bit. >

Re: [time-nuts] ``direct'' RS-232 vs. RS-232 via USB vs. PPS decoding cards

2017-02-15 Thread Chris Albertson
an keep backups or store media files (videos) or host a small web site NTP is almost zero load on the CPU and the best thing is the NTP accuracy is not effected by CPU load SO you can run other service without degrading the NTP server. (All the time critical stuff happens inside a tiny interrup

Re: [time-nuts] ``direct'' RS-232 vs. RS-232 via USB vs. PPS decoding cards

2017-02-14 Thread Chris Albertson
PCs that all agree on what the time is. The outliers tent to get ignored. When GPS comes back up the system makes a gradual and graceful recovery. Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsub

Re: [time-nuts] ``direct'' RS-232 vs. RS-232 via USB vs. PPS decoding cards

2017-02-14 Thread Chris Albertson
istinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. &

Re: [time-nuts] ``direct'' RS-232 vs. RS-232 via USB vs. PPS decoding cards

2017-02-13 Thread Chris Albertson
SS receiver). > > Thanks in advance, > Ruslan > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m > ailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions

Re: [time-nuts] Vintage Frequency Measurement

2017-02-12 Thread Chris Albertson
how those worked. I just wish > I could find the one hidden in my garage :^) > > Dan > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m > ailman/listinfo/

Re: [time-nuts] WWV Receivers

2017-02-07 Thread Chris Albertson
; but a really low-end computer like a Rasperry Pi would be perfect for this, maybe over kill but you'd want the features of the OS to send the time some place -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo

Re: [time-nuts] Li-ion Battreries

2017-01-23 Thread Chris Albertson
et on with it > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, Cal

Re: [time-nuts] purpose of time of day display units

2017-01-22 Thread Chris Albertson
_ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California

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