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setting the rate would. Of course the best thing would be to buy small
clock you could take with you but NTP was designed to run on a dump
network that only moves data without timing it.
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is sub millisecond so the tower is a
non-issue. All you need is a view of most of the sky. don't worry about
noise either. NTP will NEVER notice effects smaller than a microsecond
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Mostly I'd say don't spend money on performance you don't need but in some
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antenna cable. Use 100 meters of the kind of cable they use for cable
TV. It comes double shield and has those compression type F connectors.
The cable can cary both the GPS signal
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could do this to many older instruments then use USB to a USB hub,
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the chips on that $3
board cost more than $3. (I don't even see how shipping from China can be
that cheap.)
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Actually I've added some features
times even if the internal clock is
dead-on perfect. Same for disk time stamps, these is lag in the IO system
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be able to detect this on
its own.
What do you think?
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of the different gravitational field at those two different elevations.
Some people will have such clocks but most have only those eBay 10MHz OCXOs
Maybe some kind of laser interferometer would wrk?
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this to drive the MCU. I'd do
that early rather than later.
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to once to the jack. Or maybe you ad a switch
so you can use the old crystal or use the jack.Debugging is easier when
you can disconnect a cable and test each part independently.
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interrupt driven?
In the implementations I've seen the critical real time work is done inside
the PPS interrupt handler and then of course ntpd runs in userland and can
take as much time as it needs
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Bark effect? ;-)
Lightning hit a tree behind where I lived and three other trees near it
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one of the pampas
is not longer in production but you can use a search on the Digikey web
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I think this is what people meant, not to simply buy the TAPR product but
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remember using it first in the late 1970's back when
the Internet was still called the Darpa Net and it only connected a few
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peer to your server then what can you do but ask the server? Mostly the
thinks you monitor are NTP internal states and statistics.
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select a good oscillator and try and discipline
it well but there will still be an error.
This is like what a GPS does when it outputs a sawtooth function. The GPS
does it's best to put the PPS at theocracy time. It can't get it perfect
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. (Think about this if you want to make your
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to further development.)
If you like those FPGA boards then you can usually synthesize a CPU and run
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to use something so complex to simulate a
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some old RAM memory or PCI boards and gluing down a parallel row of them.
Dead bug style works well with SMD also.
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completely different.
So, to that I said: WOW! Wait just a damn minute.
I got into this so I can tell time precisely. Now I'm back
to to the beginning.
I know I am exaggerating a bit here but still.
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will still get good enough
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. The PID tries to keep this value are some
arbitrary constant value
Lars' idea was to make this as simple as could be. Mine was to make it
even more simple. I found I could not remove any of his hardware parts but
I could make the software much smaller.
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https://www.sparkfun.com/products/12765
You can find these on eBay for a lower price.
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to a zero
crossing detector then to a counter in the PI.
Prolly it has enough horsepower/pins to capture frequency/band selector
and emulate everything so no PI needed. Still I don't like the idea to
develop in C while having Lazarus on a PI for 35bucks.
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think gives better results because you do not have to transfer frequency
from the crystal to the Rb. Unless you need the OCXO for some other reason.
I was luck to have bought the FE5680 back when they were $35 each. They
work well enough for my 10 digit frequency counter.
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to supply backup power to an entire house
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plastic conduit is
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the danger the electric code
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time and might corrode.
I think the threaded conduit would work fine. That stuff is like water
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A TEC is not a very good device for cooling a large enclosure. It works
for the case of a wine coolers because (1) you don't need wine to be very
cool, 55F is fine and you don't open the door very often either. But TECs
do have a good use where they ar perfect. That is cooling some small
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files. Or what would it cost to build a run of say
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recover. You can start with an open source TSIP reader then modify it to
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are measuring.
And also are you SURE you are measuring the correct end of the pulse, you
want the raising edge. It is easy to invert the pulse and therefore
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