Re: [time-nuts] New WWVB modulation format receivers (NOT)

2014-02-21 Thread J. Forster
Well, I used to be able to see LORAN pulses w/ a 3-inch diameter loop and a Tek 7000-series 'scope. WWVB is hard to detect w/ a 3-foot diameter HP shielded loop w/ integral preamp 2 stages of mechanical filters. (HP 117A). The other half ogf the time it was undetectable. Paul S uses a loop that

Re: [time-nuts] New WWVB modulation format receivers (NOT)

2014-02-21 Thread J. Forster
500 GHz ? Really? How? Even counting 100 GHz is pushing it. You mean MHz, no? -John == Well if we are talking about $50 then you have my attention. No I am not afraid to use a soldering iron.  Amateur radio is not my main interest here.  I have the same compulsion many of

Re: [time-nuts] New WWVB modulation format receivers

2014-02-22 Thread J. Forster
Carrier extraction by squareing does not work well at all in a high noise environment. The BPSK limits the narowness of the IF BW. If you rule out modelling the data stream, and phase switching the signal before the IF, you have to go w/ something like a Costas Loop. -John =

Re: [time-nuts] software-defined WWVB receivers

2014-02-22 Thread J. Forster
I was monitoring WWVB against a good local standard and evaluating 60kHz 'seeing' 30 years ago. Sometimes it is beautifully quiet, after a storm front went through as I remember, at other times it's absolute hash... to the point that the HP 117A would not even hold lock. -John =

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB antennas

2014-02-22 Thread J. Forster
I doubt that a 'fractal antenna' is going to do very well at 60 kHz in a size small enough to fit in a wrist watch. YMMV, -John == Google 'fractal antenna'.  Fractal Antennas are a relatively recent (late 1980's to mid-1990's) discovery/invention.  I have read that they are

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB antennas

2014-02-22 Thread J. Forster
You are about 1/4 the distance away. Inverse square law. -John === On 2/21/14, 2:21 PM, Robert Roehrig wrote: John Forster said: WWVB is hard to detect w/ a 3-foot diameter HP shielded loop w/ integral preamp 2 stages of mechanical filters. (HP 117A). The other half of

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN C 89700 on the air starting Monday

2014-03-01 Thread J. Forster
Paul, Do you know if this is a prelude to continuous service? -John === Wildwood will be on air from approximately 1400 on 02 March until 1400 on 04 March Regards Paul WB8TSL ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To

[time-nuts] New England Ham - Electronic Fleamarket Dates * March * update]

2014-03-01 Thread J. Forster
New England Area Ham - Electronic Flea Market *** DATES *** 2014 P 1 of 2 All events are Ham Radio/ Electronic related except ~_~ *** 2014Contact

Re: [time-nuts] 3.0GHz Channel 3 installation in Agilent 53132A counter

2014-03-18 Thread J. Forster
Jim, You were looking for a 0 Ohm resistor. Sometimes HP did not, in fact, insert a 0 Ohm resistor component in later revs of some PCBs. They just added the default 0 Ohmers in etch, between two vias. Then, if someone wanted to open the link, the etch was cut. I guess it saved a couple of

Re: [time-nuts] Aircraft ping timing

2014-03-19 Thread J. Forster
It depends on how accurately the bird can measure the round-trip time: 1 us = ca 500' 10 us = ca 1 mile 100us = ca 10 miles 1 ms = ca 100 miles The arcs are loci of constant round trip time, projected on the globe. -John === My question was on what would be the expected

Re: [time-nuts] Aircraft ping timing

2014-03-22 Thread J. Forster
I'm not so sure it is worth much as parts, except possibly on the black market. I believe the aircraft industry is big on tracking every part, cradle to grave. After all an under spec bolt can cause a very expensive crash. YMMV, -John == In retrospect it is kind of crazy

[time-nuts] Airraft Ping Timing

2014-03-24 Thread J. Forster
According to a report on FOX, INMARSAT was able to determine the Malasia Air followed the southern traectory from the Dopplar of the pings. They verified their model by tracking other planes. -John = ___ time-nuts mailing list --

Re: [time-nuts] Airraft Ping Timing

2014-03-25 Thread J. Forster
Yes, and there was an early military positioning system, roughly 1960s / 1970s that worked on Dopplar also. The name escapes me at the moment. -John = This is how ELT locating satellites work (when not relaying the newer GPS data bursts). Several on another list I watch

Re: [time-nuts] Airraft Ping Timing

2014-03-25 Thread J. Forster
Could well be. I never saw the bird, of course. The portable ground station was roughly the same size as an OD Manpak radio of the period and read out Lat/Long on LED digital readouts. In retrospect, it may have been in the early 1980s. -John == Hi, Yes, and there was an early

Re: [time-nuts] Airraft Ping Timing

2014-03-25 Thread J. Forster
Certainly, if it's a bent-pipe repeater, that makes extracting the Dopplar a whole lot easier. Furthermore, since it's unlikely that the missing plane was the only signal, you can essentially do a differential Dopplar measurement against other sorces, stationary or moving in a know trajectory.

[time-nuts] New England Ham - Electronic Flea Market Dates * April * update]

2014-04-04 Thread J. Forster
Original Message Subject: [BARC-List] [Flea@MIT] New England Ham - Electronic Flea Market Dates * April * update From:New England Area Ham - Electronic Flea Market f...@mit.edu Date:Thu, April 3, 2014 3:05 pm To: f...@mit.edu

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency of LC Tank.

2014-04-11 Thread J. Forster
At resonance, an LC looks pure resistive. For a parallel LC, sample the voltage across the LC and the drive current, and tweek the frequency until they are in-phase. For a series LC, sample the voltage across the L or C and tweek as above. If you want to do it analog, dither the frequency a

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency of LC Tank.

2014-04-11 Thread J. Forster
That's why you want to look for the phase of the tank impedance. The phase goes through zero at resonance. It is far more precise. The steepness of the phase v. frequency plot is steep w/ a high Q circuit... flatter w/ a low Q tank. Either way, it does go through zero at resonance. The phase v.

Re: [time-nuts] Software for use HP 82350B gpib card.

2014-04-14 Thread J. Forster
FWIW, the HP GPIB cards are only really useful with a complete HP system that runs HP special software in a complete computer controlled instrument. If that is not your intent, get a NI or compatible card. It'll be far easier in the long run. YMMV, -John === Hi, I need

Re: [time-nuts] optically excite a quartz crystal?

2014-04-21 Thread J. Forster
No. There is just a little rectangular quartz wafer. No plating. In fact, post WWII, when many ham transmitters were 'rock bound' (ie: crystal conteolled) it was common pratice to regrind mil surplus rystals to move them into the ham banda. Apparently, some were also etched using a cleanser

Re: [time-nuts] optically excite a quartz crystal?

2014-04-21 Thread J. Forster
to the government. Ammonium bi-flouride and water was the most common etchant in that era. There are a number of papers about the whole deal in the FCS, and many stories told by those who were part of the changes. Bob On Apr 21, 2014, at 10:10 AM, J. Forster j...@quikus.com wrote: No. There is just

Re: [time-nuts] HP-115BR Available

2012-10-06 Thread J. Forster
Although not applicable when you have burnt parts, the 115BRs have to be started. They do not autostart by themselves. Behind the front panel, near the top, are a pair of pushbuttons. You have to apply power, turn the meter to 10 kHz and push the button to start the first decade divider, then

Re: [time-nuts] Zeeman frequency oddness

2012-10-27 Thread J. Forster
Is there perhaps a hemisphere jumper for the sign of nulling fields? -John == On 10/28/2012 01:13 AM, Chuck Harris wrote: Two things come to mind: 1) is this the high performance tube? Perhaps it has a different Zeeman frequency than the standard tube? 2) a non HP replacement

Re: [time-nuts] Option 14 on EIP 545A frequency counter

2012-11-03 Thread J. Forster
Try asking on the EIP_Microwave Yahoo Group. Best, -John === I've acquired an EIP 545A counter which seems to be in decent shape. In reading through the service manual there is a reference to option 14, a high resolution mode that increases gate time to 10 seconds. As far

[time-nuts] [Fwd: [Milsurplus] Wanted - AN/URQ-10 manual]

2012-11-16 Thread J. Forster
On the off-chance someone has this manual. Please reply direct to Nick. -John === Original Message Subject: [Milsurplus] Wanted - AN/URQ-10 manual From:Nick England navy.ra...@gmail.com Date:Thu, November 15, 2012

Re: [time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal.

2012-11-16 Thread J. Forster
PayPal is pretty much a law unto itself. Basically, if you choose to become involved with them, it's their bat, ball, glove, and ballpark. Your only real alternative is to play another game. Unfortunately, the younger generation of eBay sellers is convinced that PayPal and plastic is the only

Re: [time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal.

2012-11-16 Thread J. Forster
Tyhey used to. Have you asked them if they still do? -John = I'm just amazed Aligent doesn't take credit cards directly. Paypal is for small time players. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal.

2012-11-17 Thread J. Forster
Odd. I would have expected anybody's PayPal limit would be lower than the associated credit card limit. Logically, one should be therefore able to get a PayPal account without a credit card,. -John === This is some of the communication between me and Agilent on eBay. I think it is

Re: [time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal.

2012-11-17 Thread J. Forster
current account. Dave On 17 November 2012 22:06, J. Forster j...@quikus.com wrote: Odd. I would have expected anybody's PayPal limit would be lower than the associated credit card limit. Logically, one should be therefore able to get a PayPal account without a credit card,. -John

Re: [time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal.

2012-11-17 Thread J. Forster
Not if you just walk into a bank and open an account with $100 cash. My point is not fraud, but that PayPal is not safe. -John == On 11/17/2012 4:37 PM, J. Forster wrote: Perhaps. That opens the possibility of linking a PayPal account to a bank account, then zeroing the balance

Re: [time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal.

2012-11-17 Thread J. Forster
? or an independent company entirely? My only and last $.02! Don L J. Forster It is Agilent - at least to the extent I can determine. Some reported on another mailing list that when calling Agilent, they had been advised to look on eBay for CertiPrime items from the seller agilentused All

Re: [time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal.

2012-11-17 Thread J. Forster
If agilentused is selling stuff on eBay, might not the PayPal be an eBay thing, rather than an Agilent thing? Fer sure, eBay really, really pushes PayPal because they get an additional cut of the transaction. -John == On Nov 17, 2012, at 5:29 PM, David Kirkby

Re: [time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal.

2012-11-17 Thread J. Forster
You don't ask, you don't get. And, is 10 UKP really significant compared to what you've spent or lost? Get to them, succinctly summarize, get a name, and then switch to email. YMMV, -John === On 18 November 2012 01:02, J. Forster j...@quikus.com wrote: As I said, try calling

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB new modulation scheme monograph

2012-11-22 Thread J. Forster
It depends on what you mean: First off, the phase modulation renders many existing phase tracking receivers useless. Period. A few current receivers are immune to the PSK, but they do not 'use' the PSK modulation, but they just ignore it. My understanding is, the new modulation was designed

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB new modulation

2012-11-22 Thread J. Forster
I believe they have a design that is working in silicon. If so, that's a $ million or more head start. That, to me, is a monopoly because any other entrant to the market would have to amortize that expense. Furthermore, there is the issue of patent suits, even if you can design around their

Re: [time-nuts] FS/FT HP 5335A

2012-11-24 Thread J. Forster
You might want to ask on the EIP_Microwave Yahoo Group. EIP made some of the best microwave counters ever. -John = Wanted: microwave counter. Must go to at least 18 GHz. For trade: HP 5335a. Working. HPIB, Enhanced HPIB triggering options, etc.. Depending on unit cash can be

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna in attic?

2012-11-25 Thread J. Forster
Generally, it should work most of the time, which is probably good enough to discipline your local standard. Obviously, you want it above any foil backed insulation. Generally, near the ridge would be good, as ridges don't get that much snow cover. I've had a handhelg Garmin lock up OK in a lab

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna in attic?

2012-11-25 Thread J. Forster
There are ways to do it w/o drilling holes. Most all houses have vent stacks for the plumbing, typically 3 or 4 inch cast iron or thick plastic. You can clamp a couple of feet of pipe onto one of those and run the wire to under an eve or through a gable end, adding a drip loop of course. But, if

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna in attic?

2012-11-26 Thread J. Forster
the attic and allows for better reception Sent from my iPhone On Nov 25, 2012, at 10:15 PM, J. Forster j...@quikus.com wrote: There are ways to do it w/o drilling holes. Most all houses have vent stacks for the plumbing, typically 3 or 4 inch cast iron or thick plastic. You can clamp a couple

Re: [time-nuts] Is a crystal likely to change frequency by 3% ?

2012-11-26 Thread J. Forster
Have you contacted ArtekMedia for any manual information? Also, have you checked/posted a question to the VNA Agilent Forum? -John == I've got an HP 8720D VNA. This has been out of support from Agilent for 8 years, so its getting on a bit. There's a clock in the instrument

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna in attic?

2012-11-26 Thread J. Forster
You might better use RTV. I's plenty strong enough and can be taken apart if needed. -John = Unfortunately not, it's part of the molded bottom piece of the antenna casing. On 11/26/2012 9:24 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Peter Gottlieb

Re: [time-nuts] EIP545A 18GHz counter query

2012-11-27 Thread J. Forster
The first thing to do with any EIP counter is to remove and reseat all the PCBs. The card sockets they use are sometimes flaky. Simply doing this fixed most of the counters. This is especially true if they have been storfed for a while. YMMV, -John === 27/11/2012 14:18

Re: [time-nuts] EIP545A 18GHz counter query

2012-11-29 Thread J. Forster
It sounds like a SW limit, not hardware. Silly question: Have you read the manual? -John = 29/11/2012 09:30 The replacement for the missing U6 chip arrived this morning and it now completes the 200 MHz self test It will read up to the limit of my frequency generator on Band

Re: [time-nuts] EIP545A 18GHz counter query

2012-11-29 Thread J. Forster
OK. It maybe time for the hair dryer and freeze spray. Also, try re-seating any socketed chips. -John == It sounds like a SW limit, not hardware. Silly question: Have you read the manual? -John 29/11/2012 15:31 Hi John, will re read the section on limits, but please see

Re: [time-nuts] Loran

2012-11-30 Thread J. Forster
IF, and it's a big IF, it is compatible with existing LORAC-C receivers, it would be a most welcome development, and would mitigate to some extent the idiotic decision to shut down LORAN-C. If it's incompatible with the existing, installed receivers, because it uses some kind of proprietary, sole

[time-nuts] WWVB All Over Again

2012-12-01 Thread J. Forster
From Page 5: The need to offer legacy LORAN-C system capabilityt for legacy LORAN-C is not required in the US and Does anybody who heard the test signal know for certain that the modulation was that being proposed? Perhaps they were just testing a new transmitter with the old modulation? It

[time-nuts] [Fwd: [hp_agilent_equipment] Blue Feather File Archive Updated]

2012-12-02 Thread J. Forster
FYI, this is an archive of ROM EPROM dumps for various test gear. -John == Original Message Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] Blue Feather File Archive Updated From:Bruce Lane kyr...@bluefeathertech.com Date:Sat,

[time-nuts] [Fwd: [hp_agilent_equipment] Blue Feather File Archive Updated]

2012-12-02 Thread J. Forster
Oops. It seems that Bruce's announcement is premature. Best, -John FYI, this is an archive of ROM EPROM dumps for various test gear. -John == Original Message Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] Blue

Re: [time-nuts] EIP545A 18GHz counter query

2012-12-10 Thread J. Forster
Yes. There is a Yahoo Group spwecifically about EIP products. -John I have an EIP counter with a problem, stashed, that I need to look at eventually. So have been following the thread a bit. If you guys get somewhere conclusive (or not), might be nice to post a summary

[time-nuts] OT: Mayans

2012-12-19 Thread J. Forster
-John ===attachment: Mayan.jpg___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

[time-nuts] OT: The End of Time

2012-12-26 Thread J. Forster
Over Christmas, I was chatting with a high accuracy clock researcher in the UK and he mentioned a trip to Brighton on the Winter Solstice and saw notices for this: Burning the Clocks Festival. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_the_Clocks LoL. -John

Re: [time-nuts] YIG oscillators

2013-01-04 Thread J. Forster
Most modern books on micriowave design (and probably Wiki) have the basics. They are based on the NMR principle (Nuclear Magnetic Resonance). This is the same physics used in MRI. You might also look at old issues of the HP Journal or the Watkins-Johnson house journal. The former is easily

Re: [time-nuts] 1970's flashback

2013-01-13 Thread J. Forster
It's an unfortunate fact of life. When a technology company grows, sooner or later the MBAs, lawyers, and vulture capitalists take over and the priorities get set by them and the quarter-over-quarter performance, rather that the science or engineering. I detest managers who believe that a person

Re: [time-nuts] OT, looking for a good science forum

2013-01-26 Thread J. Forster
For microscopes and all related topics, the Yahoo Microscope Group is very knowledgeable. It has over 3500 members now. -John = This is by definition Off Topic I'm looking for a forum where people are about as technically competent as here but where an amateur scientist

Re: [time-nuts] OT, looking for a good science forum

2013-01-26 Thread J. Forster
Trying to play with liquid acetylene is like juggling operating chainsaws. -John Il 2013-01-26 14:58 Bob Camp ha scritto: Hi Platinum RTD's are a pretty good bet for -80C, they hold up well down there. For calibration, ammonia and acetylene both have triple points in the

Re: [time-nuts] OT, looking for a good science forum

2013-01-26 Thread J. Forster
You can't be serious. Ammonia gas or liquid is dangerous. You can buy calibrated RTDs or rent a quartz thermometer and stay alive. YMMV, -John === Hi If the intent is to come up with a triple point cell to calibrate your thermometer, acetone's triple point (at 178.5K) is a

Re: [time-nuts] OT, looking for a good science forum

2013-01-26 Thread J. Forster
The microscope group can help with reccomendations. 1000x is really pushing it, because of 'empty magnification'. Best, -John == On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 10:00 AM, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: If the intent is surface mount work, get an old BL Stereozoom 3. I'd suggest

Re: [time-nuts] OT, looking for a good science forum

2013-01-26 Thread J. Forster
at 190K is going to have something nasty about it. Bob On Jan 26, 2013, at 3:57 PM, J. Forster j...@quikus.com wrote: You can't be serious. Ammonia gas or liquid is dangerous. You can buy calibrated RTDs or rent a quartz thermometer and stay alive. YMMV, -John === Hi

Re: [time-nuts] OT, looking for a good science forum

2013-01-26 Thread J. Forster
The Yahoo Microscope Group already exists with over 3700 members world wide, which forms a huge knowlege base, from biology to microelectronics. http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Microscope/ Why re-invent the wheel? -John == I like the idea of a amateur microscopy nuts reflector.

Re: [time-nuts] OT, looking for a good science forum

2013-01-27 Thread J. Forster
. Ammonia also requires pressure vessels and in pure form is incredibly corrosive So unless you are trained in these techniques just don't even think about doing this Sent from my iPhone On Jan 26, 2013, at 3:57 PM, J. Forster j...@quikus.com wrote: You can't be serious. Ammonia gas or liquid

Re: [time-nuts] General Radio

2013-01-28 Thread J. Forster
You might want to ask on the GenRad Yahoo Group. There is nothing in the GR Historical Society CDs, as of te last version I have. -John === Any schematics for the following general radio Primary standard syncrometer clock Girard 617 417 1766 jsimon1026 @aol.com 691c 690d

[time-nuts] Anyone Using a Yahoo Email Account - PLEASE READ !!

2013-01-30 Thread J. Forster
Folks, As you have seen, the Group has been getting sammed lately. Most soams never get posted to the Group, but some do. These apparently come from hacked Yahoo email accounts. Yahoo itself was hacked, and the passwords to about half a million Yahoo email addresses were obtained.There are

Re: [time-nuts] Loran again

2013-02-02 Thread J. Forster
Hmmm... . That puts a different face on it. If it a LORAN-like signal, but with an eventual format, incompatible with existing hardware, like the Austron 2100F, any cheering will have been in vain. YMMV, -John == I understand its no eLORAN, but I keep calling it LORAN and

Re: [time-nuts] Locked onto LORAN 8970 GRI Monday AM

2013-02-04 Thread J. Forster
Great. Now if the transmissions continue and the format doesn't change! -John == Boy LORAN austron2100 and 2100f and GPS HP3801are tracking really well. The Austrons are 1.5-2.0 E-12. Pretty much getting at there limits after 5 hours. Regards Paul. On Mon, Feb 4, 2013

Re: [time-nuts] Locked onto LORAN 8970 GRI Monday AM

2013-02-05 Thread J. Forster
compared to my T'Bolt GPS/DO is -2.5E12. Stan W1LE Cape Cod On 2/4/2013 8:56 PM, paul swed wrote: We can only dream. But will take what I can get for as long as I can get it. It sure in the heck kicks wwvb's capabilities. Regards Paul On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 6:20 PM, J. Forster j

[time-nuts] [Fwd: [TestEquipTrader] FTS-4060 Cesium Time and Frequency Standard]

2013-02-19 Thread J. Forster
FYI, from another list. Contact OP directly, not me. -John === Original Message Subject: [TestEquipTrader] FTS-4060 Cesium Time and Frequency Standard From:Chris Howard w0ep w...@w0ep.us Date:Tue, February 19, 2013

Re: [time-nuts] BBC Bush House Patek Phillipe clock system on ebay

2013-02-19 Thread J. Forster
Paul, I doubt Patek makes ANYTHING a mere mortal would call 'cheap'. YMMV, -John = Actually I guess I do have a further comment. These Pateks look cheap compared to the old hp5060 24 hour clock versions. On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Brooke Clarke bro...@pacific.net wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] BBC Bush House Patek Phillipe clock system on ebay

2013-02-19 Thread J. Forster
A desk clock is more like it. -John Totally agree. But the old HPs were a lot nicer looking for the $$ Still have not figured out how you would use one of those as a wrist watch. On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 5:12 PM, J. Forster j...@quikus.com wrote: Paul, I doubt Patek makes

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB

2013-02-23 Thread J. Forster
So, if you use phase-tracking hardware, it's good for three more weeks. Wonderful... not. :(( LORAN-C all over again! -John = On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 06:01:46PM -0500, paul swed wrote: Donald from what I have been seeing they are consistent. But there is a 1 hour period

[time-nuts] OT: Robot Watch

2013-02-24 Thread J. Forster
Hi, I was just given an Anarobo Quartz writwatch, like this: http://www.listia.com/auction/1183485-robot-watch-with-turquoise-blue-clock Honestly, it is THE cutest trhing I've see in ages, and made of solid stainless steel. Does anybody know anything more about it? Was it a promo of some kind?

Re: [time-nuts] Loran again

2013-03-10 Thread J. Forster
Where are you? -John === Hi All; I hear Loran C signals back on again, I'll fire up the SRS FS-700 and check. RP ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Clocks don't sync anymore (revisited)

2013-03-20 Thread J. Forster
Have you tried to put BPSK through a narrow band filter and looked at the envelope at the output? -John == Hi Also consider that some of these receivers use a narrowband crystal filter in front of the IC. I doubt they spend a ton of money on the components, so that may not be

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Clocks don't sync anymore (revisited)

2013-03-20 Thread J. Forster
If a clock uses a narrow (high Q)filter, the BPSK may mess up the amplitude response. The Time Code is modulated AM on the carrier. If this is the case, broadening the filter, possibly by adding shunt resistance, might fix the issue. FWIW, -John On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at

Re: [time-nuts] Linked-in Emails

2013-03-21 Thread J. Forster
Unless you are very careful, LinkedIn harvests your address book and spams everybody in it to join. IMO, it's malware. YMMV, -John Hello, I am sorry for the email traffic that Linked-in has generated. Somehow it picked up every email address in my email list. My

[time-nuts] Win XP and NIST Time

2013-03-23 Thread J. Forster
Recently, my 'puter clock has been resetting back an hour every so often. The auto-sync to time.NIST.gov is the timeserver it uses. Does that site change to Daylight time? Does the Windows time site change to aylight time? Tjanks, -John ==

Re: [time-nuts] Win XP and NIST Time

2013-03-23 Thread J. Forster
I think the date for the DST time change were altered some years ago, hence the Win SW messes up. I keep the 'puter clock on local time for convenience, and switch because eBay does. I am only concerned with roughly accurate local time. Best, -John === Recently, my 'puter clock

Re: [time-nuts] Win XP and NIST Time

2013-03-23 Thread J. Forster
Thank you. My question is really does NIST time change to DST. I'm completely happy with manually changing the time twice a year by hand. I'm trying to see if disabling the auto-update fixes the problem. Resetting a clock is not exactly a major task. I have no interest in going to Vista or

Re: [time-nuts] Win XP and NIST Time

2013-03-23 Thread J. Forster
do DST changes so I've never had to deal with it - other than dealing with some WWVB clocks that don't let you disable DST! Ed On 3/23/2013 11:02 AM, J. Forster wrote: Thank you. My question is really does NIST time change to DST. I'm completely happy with manually changing the time twice

Re: [time-nuts] Win XP and NIST time

2013-03-23 Thread J. Forster
If you double left click on the clock; click on the Time Zone tab, there is a check box for DST update on/off. Since the dates of DST have changed, it does not work right. Best, -John = Hi all, I am a new member, in St Pete, Florida. I noticed that last week, my XP laptop had

Re: [time-nuts] OT - DC-10 gyros

2013-03-27 Thread J. Forster
Watch eBay for a small static inverter. I got an Abbott one for under $50. It takes 28 VDC and puts out 115VAC 400 Hz. -John === How about one of those 2kw car stereo amps with a 555 input tone ? --- On Wed, 3/27/13, Bill Ezell w...@quackers.net wrote: From: Bill Ezell

Re: [time-nuts] OT - DC-10 gyros

2013-03-27 Thread J. Forster
An appropriate (but small) Group already exists: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Aerospace_Hardware_Collectors_Group/ -John === Yeah I'd join a gyro-nuts group. I have a shelf full of weird gyros, a stable platform, other gyro stuff. I made a little power supply to

Re: [time-nuts] OT - DC-10 gyros

2013-03-27 Thread J. Forster
It was almost certainly for powering a WWII vintage fluxgate compass system. -John == I have a little dynamotor somewhere which makes 3 phase 400 Hz. Tiny little thing! Only puts out like 15 VA, and not very noisy either. IIRC is was called an Instrument inverter On

Re: [time-nuts] Photodiodes for high frequency OPLL

2013-03-30 Thread J. Forster
My understanding is that you want to operate photodiodes with high reverse bias for the best frequency response. The bias widens the space charge layer, thereby reducing the capacitance of the device. The high electric fields in the SCL region also sweeps the hole-electron pairs, produced by

Re: [time-nuts] Photodiodes for high frequency OPLL

2013-03-30 Thread J. Forster
is a 50 Ohm coax to a broadband amp w/ 50 Ohm input. In the limit, the amp is put right at the detector and has near-zero input Z. Best, -John = On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 10:52:54 -0700 (PDT) J. Forster j...@quikus.com wrote: My understanding is that you want to operate photodiodes

Re: [time-nuts] Photodiodes for high frequency OPLL

2013-04-01 Thread J. Forster
I think that you should be able to take the signal right out of the backbiased diode and run it straight into a microwave mixer w/ a fixed 7 GHz LO and frequency discrimitate the IF output from the mixer to generate a control signal for your LASER. In theory, if your LASERS were very, very, very

[time-nuts] Flea at MIT on Sunday- STATUS

2013-04-19 Thread J. Forster
Hi, As some of you may know, the Boston Marathon bombers killed an MIT Police Officer about 100 yards from the site of the Sunday MIT Flea Market. MIT is now shut down, for today at least. One of the suspects is dead. Another is at large in Watertown close by. The whole area is on 'lock-down'

[time-nuts] NO MIT Flea Tomorrow

2013-04-20 Thread J. Forster
http://w1mx.mit.edu/flea-at-mit -John == ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

[time-nuts] APN-9A Very Rare LORAN-A Manual Copies Available

2013-04-21 Thread J. Forster
As you may know, some time ago, I acquired an all-but-mythical APN-9A LORAN-A receiver/Indicator. This is not the common APN-9 LORAN-A, but is a hybrid (analog/digital) version built for the B-36 bomber. Very few were built and documentation is just about non-existant. I have been very

Re: [time-nuts] APN-9A Very Rare LORAN-A Manual Copies Available

2013-04-21 Thread J. Forster
will be scanning it eventually. Best, -John === On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 11:21:33AM -0700, J. Forster wrote: As you may know, some time ago, I acquired an all-but-mythical APN-9A LORAN-A receiver/Indicator. This is not the common APN-9 LORAN-A, but is a hybrid (analog/digital) version

[time-nuts] OT: eBay Contact Congress

2013-04-22 Thread J. Forster
Hi, I recieved a very odd communication, apparently from eBay, this morning. It is a request to contact Congress about sales taxes on internet sales. It APPEARS to be genuine, but I'm unconvinced. Has anybody else received this email, and is it for real? Puzzled, -John

Re: [time-nuts] OT: eBay Contact Congress

2013-04-22 Thread J. Forster
tell you in a heartbeat if the thing is genuine or a malware attempt. Keep the peace(es). *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 22-Apr-13 at 06:13 J. Forster wrote: Hi, I recieved a very odd communication, apparently from eBay, this morning. It is a request to contact Congress

Re: [time-nuts] OT: eBay Contact Congress

2013-04-23 Thread J. Forster
. Particularly, as it is being handled to push it through so fast without the proper vetting. BillWB6BNQ J. Forster wrote: Hi, I recieved a very odd communication, apparently from eBay, this morning. It is a request to contact Congress about sales taxes on internet sales. It APPEARS

Re: [time-nuts] OT: eBay Contact Congress

2013-04-23 Thread J. Forster
In message 54941.12.226.214.5.1366726922.squir...@popaccts.quikus.com, J. Fo rster writes: It concerns me that eBays message FAILS the authentication test they themselves advocate. I think that is because this message does not come out of their backoffice systems, but rather out of their

Re: [time-nuts] S743 Marketplace Fariness Act... and freq standard box

2013-04-24 Thread J. Forster
Peter, I believe you are correct about the $1M per year trip point, but would remind you that this is a very slippery slope. When the Income Tax was originally enacted, very, very few were impacted. That is no longer so. The Alternative Minimum Tax was enacted to hit those who have saved and

Re: [time-nuts] HP-8640B

2013-04-25 Thread J. Forster
Try www.ArtekMedia.com Dave has IMO the best info on HP (and other) stuff available. Best, -John == Hello Folks! I turn to you in hope someone can help me. The old but good signal generator 8640B is by Agilent declared obsolete and no support available. The frequency

Re: [time-nuts] OT - but of interest?

2013-04-27 Thread J. Forster
When I was building space payloads, every component had to meet or exceed a VCM (Volitile Condensible Material) spec. This was mainly of concern with plastics, like wire insulation (we used Teflon and Kapton) but especially potting compounds. And, don't even think about ball bearings near optics

Re: [time-nuts] OT - but of interest?

2013-04-27 Thread J. Forster
Putting 100,000 items in space is a non-starter. The existing space trash is already a big concern, and there have been seriuous proposals for missions to clean it up. An iPhone, travelling at orbital velocity, has a lot of kinetic energy! There was an uproar years ago when the Westford Needles

Re: [time-nuts] OT - but of interest?

2013-04-27 Thread J. Forster
Sometimes imaging sensors are just not available at wavelengths of interest. There is no choice but mechanical scanners. Bearings are also needed to de-spin antennas, etc. -John = On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 12:06:45 -0700 (PDT), L. Forster wrote: When I was building space payloads, every

Re: [time-nuts] laser locking

2013-04-29 Thread J. Forster
Here is a start: http://www.npl.co.uk/upload/pdf/9608%20-%20A0%20Poster2%20v4%20Final%20lr.pdf -John I'm asking mostly out of interest, because i have no clue how this is done. Although i've read many papers on laser spectroscopy and how to acheive even better atomic

[time-nuts] laser locking

2013-05-01 Thread J. Forster
I got this reply from a researcher friend: A better link might be http://www.npl.co.uk/science-technology/time-frequency/optical-frequency-standards-and-metrology/ --- Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 06:11:15 -0700 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] laser locking From: j...@quikus.com To:

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