[time-nuts] Equinox and sidereal time

2014-03-23 Thread Neville Michie
resolution. There is probably more to this than meets the eye, but where does one find out about it? cheers, Neville Michie ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Equinox and sidereal time

2014-03-24 Thread Neville Michie
as the sites appear to be available to everyone else. I bought the Nautical Almanac but it does not have such information. It is very hard to find alternate sources of the data. cheers, Neville Michie On 24/03/2014, at 11:06 AM, Paul wrote: On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Neville Michie namic

Re: [time-nuts] Weather/units question for European members

2014-05-23 Thread Neville Michie
-locked loop and alternately uses the sensors for transmitter and receiver, swapping ends at about 74 Hz, to get a two way signal. This method cancels most errors. It has temperature and velocity outputs. cheers, Neville Michie On 24/05/2014, at 11:16 AM, Mark Sims wrote: I am building a weather

Re: [time-nuts] Loran, GPS, Lightning, Timing

2014-06-25 Thread Neville Michie
field on the mill. cheers, Neville Michie I know you are talking about measuring lightning strikes but if you get the impedance high enough, you can actually measure the earth's electric field. (It is about 200V/m if I recall properly.) Interestingly it is affected by the solar flux and solar

Re: [time-nuts] Loran, GPS, Lightning, Timing

2014-06-26 Thread Neville Michie
as magnitude. cheers, Neville Michie On 27/06/2014, at 1:59 AM, Max Robinson wrote: How fast does the maltese cross turn? Regards. Max. K 4 O DS. Email: m...@maxsmusicplace.com Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net

Re: [time-nuts] Loran, GPS, Lightning, Timing

2014-06-28 Thread Neville Michie
for protection. cheers, Neville Michie ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Loran, GPS, Lightning, Timing

2014-06-28 Thread Neville Michie
Use a local solar cell and battery power supply. If it is self contained it should not attract lightning. Cheers, Neville Michie On 29/06/2014, at 1:13 PM, Hal Murray wrote: namic...@gmail.com said: Fibre optic would seem to be the answer for protection. Assuming I use fibers

Re: [time-nuts] National Standards labs worldwide - specifically Australia

2014-06-29 Thread Neville Michie
Hi, it used to be called NSL, National Standards Laboratory, part of the CSIRO. Now it appears to be called National Measurement Institute, (NSI) and seems to be located mainly at Lindfield NSW. http://www.measurement.gov.au/Pages/default.aspx See if that works, Cheers, Neville Michie On 29/06

Re: [time-nuts] temperature sensor

2014-07-21 Thread Neville Michie
drilled into aluminium plate edge wise to measure the plate temperature. You only have to do a few experiments to find that this is necessary. cheers, Neville Michie ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https

Re: [time-nuts] temperature sensor

2014-07-23 Thread Neville Michie
site. cheers, Neville Michie On 23/07/2014, at 5:11 AM, Attila Kinali wrote: On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 01:17:03 +0100 Brian D gro...@planet3.freeuk.co.uk wrote: Saturated steam at standard pressure will be exactly 212F, or 100C. Stupid question: How to you ensure that the steam is saturated

Re: [time-nuts] new clock

2014-07-23 Thread Neville Michie
water. Admittedly a deep cellar made a good clock vault, but a thermistor, a computer fan and a 100 watt filament lamp in a wooden box can give far more accurate temperature control. cheers, Neville Michie On 23/07/2014, at 10:17 PM, Alexander Pummer wrote: it does need a different design

Re: [time-nuts] OT Gel Cell question

2014-07-27 Thread Neville Michie
they are also very efficient (99.9% +) electrically. cheers, Neville Michie ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] OT Gel Cell question

2014-07-28 Thread Neville Michie
months guarantee. cheers, Neville Michie On 28/07/2014, at 1:59 PM, Chuck Harris wrote: A small disagreement on a couple of points Lead sulfate does not dissolve (in the normal battery chemistry), and does not go all over the place. It forms at the lead and the lead oxide plates, during

Re: [time-nuts] Price of LTE Lite GPSDO vs Trimble Thunderbolt.

2014-10-18 Thread Neville Michie
Hi, I am interested in your new GPSDO. How do I find out more about buying the kit? Is this a USA only deal? cheers, Neville Michie Sydney, Australia On 18/10/2014, at 9:35 AM, S. Jackson via time-nuts wrote: LTE Lite GPSDO ___ time-nuts mailing

Re: [time-nuts] Practical considerations making a lab standard with an LTE lite

2014-11-23 Thread Neville Michie
for double glazing, katharometers and generally all devices. The suppression of turbulent heat transfer may provide more insulation but also less noise and instability. So it may be a good idea to use a relatively close fitting box with thick walls. Cheers, Neville Michie On 23/11/2014, at 11:37 PM

Re: [time-nuts] getting a grip on 10811 drift (trying to read my instruments)

2012-11-16 Thread Neville Michie
. A soldering iron fixed them very quickly. The serial numbers were widely separated, so it was not an unlucky batch problem. cheers, Neville Michie On 16/11/2012, at 1:57 PM, Chris Howard wrote: You all were right, my targeting of the 50 ohm resistor across the oscillator output does not seem to have

Re: [time-nuts] getting a grip on 10811 drift (trying to read my instruments)

2012-11-16 Thread Neville Michie
I have found a pic of the dry joint, this one was just a dry joint with resin insulating the connection, the other never had any solder applied. cheers, Neville Michie On 17/11/2012, at 11:09 AM, Chris Howard wrote: Maybe that is my problem. I definitely have a problem. I am able

Re: [time-nuts] MesoAmerican calendars, Solstice, etc.

2012-12-17 Thread Neville Michie
But does it have an output of Sidereal Time? cheers, Neville Michie A Merry Season to all. On 18/12/2012, at 11:02 AM, Mark Sims wrote: BTW, Lady Heather has support for several versions of the Mayan and Aztec calendars. Also Druid, Herbrew, Islamic, Indian, and many others

Re: [time-nuts] MesoAmerican calendars, Solstice, etc.

2012-12-18 Thread Neville Michie
would show sidereal time! It is now just a matter of watching the screen and listening to the ticks of the clock. thanks Mark, and the others, cheers, Neville Michie On 18/12/2012, at 2:33 PM, Mark Sims wrote: Yes, you can have a GPSDMC (GPS disciplined Mayan calendar). You can also

[time-nuts] Sidereal Time and Lady Heather.

2012-12-19 Thread Neville Michie
to sidereal seconds, but how do you synch. the seconds? This is where the Lady helps. But I do not know how I can get really accurate seconds markers as convenient as the PPS from my Thunderbolt. cheers, Neville Michie ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C sounds

2010-02-13 Thread Neville Michie
lost? I do not know how shipping located themselves. cheers, Neville Michie On 14/02/2010, at 5:36 PM, Robert Berg wrote: I believe he's referring to the Fairchild A-10A bubble sextant, originally produced in the 1940s. I used a periscopic sextant in the KC-135, an improvement over the hand

[time-nuts] Low noise voltage regulators

2010-02-24 Thread Neville Michie
by the LM317 output would provide a low noise power source? What would be better? cheers, Neville Michie ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow

Re: [time-nuts] nubie querie

2010-03-05 Thread Neville Michie
to the hourglass you should at least use a caesium standard to keep time while this process occurs, you can then confidently correct the reversals of the hourglass for the turn-over dead time. It should make for a simple timer, cheers, Neville Michie

Re: [time-nuts] Thermal time constant

2010-03-10 Thread Neville Michie
Just in case anyone finds a beryllium brick somewhere and tries to use it: Beryllium is very very poisonous. cheers, Neville Michie On 11/03/2010, at 10:08 AM, Bruce Griffiths wrote: p...@pseng.org.uk wrote: Looking at the specific heat of metals: http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/specific

Re: [time-nuts] Thermal time constant

2010-03-10 Thread Neville Michie
on isothermal surfaces) Will this stop the radiant transfer and leave only the thermal conduction of the plastic foam? cheers, Neville Michie ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5065A rubidium lifetime

2010-03-20 Thread Neville Michie
it impossible to solder. It is worth keeping a tiny bottle of phosphoroic acid just for the odd bit of resistance wire or thermo-couple. You have to see it to believe it. Cheers, Neville Michie ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5065A rubidium lifetime

2010-03-21 Thread Neville Michie
pharmacy may be able to sell you some. I hope that that helps, Cheers, Neville Michie On 22/03/2010, at 7:43 AM, paul swed wrote: Were do you obtain a small amount of phosphoric acid Also when I looked it up they said it was H3PO4. Doesn't sound like the same. Is there a common use

[time-nuts] Poor man's choke ring

2010-03-24 Thread Neville Michie
of that plastic over your ground plane should work. Or do plastics that attenuate enough not exist? cheers, Neville Michie ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow

Re: [time-nuts] Making a HP 10811 better

2010-03-26 Thread Neville Michie
Warren, there is a report somewhere of resetting the oven temp in a HP 10811 to exactly find the turnover temperature. How high is this on your list of things to do to improve a HP 10811? Does it make the double oven unnecessary? cheers, Neville Michie On 27/03/2010, at 10:49 AM, WarrenS

Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A failure?

2010-03-28 Thread Neville Michie
What about the HP 10811 running out of EFC range by ageing? It may just be a matter of centring the EFC with the mechanical trim adjustment. Cheers, Neville Michie On 29/03/2010, at 11:15 AM, Matthew Kaufman wrote: Bob Camp wrote: Hi I would bet the OCXO is off frequency. Bad heater

Re: [time-nuts] Making a HP 10811 better

2010-03-29 Thread Neville Michie
likely values increasing the temperature past maximum frequency, then the same values decreasing the temperature. An hour or so at each temperature. Then a least squares regression to a parabola which should show the best value. cheers, Neville Michie On 30/03/2010, at 9:49 AM, Mike S wrote

Re: [time-nuts] Which voltage regulator chips offer good performance...?

2010-04-27 Thread Neville Michie
Volts of the floating battery. Another module has a low voltage disconnect circuit that disconnects the battery when it runs down to 10.9 volts, high enough that no cell is reverse charged. I have only just switched it on tonight, it works but I have no performance data yet. cheers, Neville

Re: [time-nuts] oscillator choice question

2010-05-02 Thread Neville Michie
Or you could rotate the whole OCXO on flexible leads through 180* and let gravity tune your frequency. The range might be small, but an occasional tweak on the frequency control might be acceptible. cheers, Neville Michie On 03/05/2010, at 6:00 AM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi An R-390A

Re: [time-nuts] Z3805 utility, Was: AW: (no subject)

2010-05-24 Thread Neville Michie
, and the fun starts all over again. It would be very easy to think that the GPSDO was not talking. cheers, Neville Michie ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Digital tight PLL method

2010-05-28 Thread Neville Michie
Strange... the link does not work here in Sydney, but if you cut and paste the link into Google it works!!!??? cheers, Neville Michie On 28/05/2010, at 4:59 PM, Steve Rooke wrote: On 28 May 2010 07:42, Bruce Griffiths bruce.griffi...@xtra.co.nz wrote: Steve Rooke wrote: On 28 May 2010

Re: [time-nuts] Did my Tbolt die ?

2010-07-17 Thread Neville Michie
or later I get the COM port right with the right settings and all is well. There seem to be up to 3 layers to get right. This may be because I use USB to serial converters or just be inherent to the later Windows OS. cheers, Neville Michie On 17/07/2010, at 5:02 PM, Adam Feigin wrote: After

Re: [time-nuts] Basic question regarding comparing two frequencies

2010-07-25 Thread Neville Michie
with the signals delayed to be near quadrature, and using the better data of the two. I use a lower frequency version of this system to monitor clocks (mechanical ones with pendulums). Cheers, Neville Michie ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Basic question regarding comparing two frequencies

2010-07-26 Thread Neville Michie
battery backup power required. cheers, Neville Michie On 26/07/2010, at 3:12 PM, Hal Murray wrote: There is another way to compare two frequencies, relevant when they are very close together. I divide a reference down to 100KHz and use it to clock a phase detector made of a pair of D

Re: [time-nuts] Basic question regarding comparing two frequencies

2010-07-26 Thread Neville Michie
the full scale time to account for large time jitter of mechanical clocks so I set it up to divide at any of a wide range of frequencies. Cheers, Neville Michie On 27/07/2010, at 3:12 AM, Max Robinson wrote: Hal Murray wrote: There is another way to compare two frequencies, relevant when

[time-nuts] TBolt - Rubidium

2010-07-28 Thread Neville Michie
. Has anyone set up an LPRO with a TBOLT? How was it done? Was it successful? cheers, Neville Michie ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow

Re: [time-nuts] Basic question regarding comparing two frequencies

2010-07-30 Thread Neville Michie
to record a measurement. I then had to punch the numbers from the printout onto IBM punch cards to calculate the process being monitored. We have come a long way since then. cheers, Neville Michie On 30/07/2010, at 11:52 PM, paul swed wrote: So on a 60 khz signal the long strip chart recorder

Re: [time-nuts] Regulating a pendulum clock

2010-08-07 Thread Neville Michie
. That should give you + or - 10Volts. You may also need a reference diode, say 2.5 volts, to provide an offset voltage to the input of the amplifier if you want to set the zero of the control range and possibly offset a single ended DAC output to span either side of zero. cheers, Neville Michie

Re: [time-nuts] Regulating a pendulum clock (Jim Palfreyman)

2010-08-08 Thread Neville Michie
will pull the pendulum into phaselock with a surprisingly small amount of power. In fact if you turn off the drive it would keep the pendulum swinging. Cheers, Neville Michie On 08/08/2010, at 6:00 PM, Steve Rooke wrote: This is very interesting and I wonder if the capabilities of this system being

Re: [time-nuts] Regulating a pendulum clock

2010-08-09 Thread Neville Michie
some great new materials, rare earth magnets and some great methods of construction. I look forward to a clock that, compared to an atomic clock, is really just an accurate gravity meter. cheers, Neville Michie On 10/08/2010, at 2:46 AM, Bob Holmstrom wrote: Food for thought. I find

[time-nuts] Cool clock with time stamping

2010-08-13 Thread Neville Michie
Have a look at this clock. Cheers, Neville Michie http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/07/pl_backstory_timemachine/ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow

Re: [time-nuts] Slightly OT - GPS-Based Accurate Direction Finding

2010-08-25 Thread Neville Michie
anyone know how laser gyroscopes are developing? cheers, Neville Michie On 26/08/2010, at 11:04 AM, David Smith wrote: As a fair percentage of the discussion amongst the learned gentlemen on this group involves GPS-based timing systems, I'd like to ask a non-time related, but GPS-related

Re: [time-nuts] Slightly OT - GPS-Based Accurate Direction Finding

2010-08-27 Thread Neville Michie
. cheers, Neville Michie ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Freestanding mast

2010-09-03 Thread Neville Michie
a good solution. cheers, Neville Michie On 03/09/2010, at 3:08 PM, Charles P. Steinmetz wrote: Stanley wrote: ROHN 9H50 34 Foot Telescopic TV Wireless Antenna Push Up Mast Interesting suggestion. Rohn is well known to me, though I don't typically think of them for things like push-up masts

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt power supply hookup

2010-09-11 Thread Neville Michie
12V regulator to its own ground on the TBolt you should be able to provide cleaner power to the unit and get lower noise on its spectrum. cheers, Neville Michie On 11/09/2010, at 4:22 PM, Mark Spencer wrote: Thanks that all makes sense and power up went ok. - Original Message

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B - result

2010-09-15 Thread Neville Michie
repaired a 10811 today with the same problem. Does anyone know the rated temperature for the fuse to drop out? cheers, Neville Michie On 15/09/2010, at 8:40 PM, Charles P. Steinmetz wrote: After cooling and restarting the 5370B and observing its behavior, we judged that it was more likely it had

Re: [time-nuts] LPRO101 orientation vs lock

2010-09-16 Thread Neville Michie
, at the end of the lamp life it goes low. This is all from my memory, the detail is in the User's guide and integration guidelines. cheers, Neville Michie On 16/09/2010, at 4:51 PM, d.sei...@comcast.net wrote: I got one of the ebay LPRO-101s about 6 months ago and played with it for a while

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt initial check out?

2010-09-19 Thread Neville Michie
spent 24 hours thinking that the Tbolt was not responding before communication was established. After that either Lady Heather or Tboltmon works very well. cheers, Neville Michie On 20/09/2010, at 10:00 AM, Mark J. Blair wrote: On Sep 19, 2010, at 4:38 PM, Bob Camp wrote: Lady Heather is a good

[time-nuts] Alternative to GPS?

2010-10-05 Thread Neville Michie
keep their own time between contacts, and somewhere you would need heros with primary standards to synch the whole system. You would not be able to find a good position, because you would not know the propagation mode. cheers, Neville Michie ___ time

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5090B

2010-10-14 Thread Neville Michie
receiver still works, it will lock on to the 2nd harmonic of a 100kHz signal from the divider driven by my Tbolt. cheers, Neville Michie On 15/10/2010, at 8:10 AM, gandal...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 14/10/2010 20:46:15 GMT Daylight Time, david.partri...@perdrix.co.uk writes: OK

[time-nuts] Thunderbolt Controllers

2008-07-07 Thread Neville Michie
relationship to UTC, temperature and barometric pressure. I would only need a battery backup power supply for the TBolt. cheers, Neville Michie ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Controllers

2008-07-07 Thread Neville Michie
, and it is obvious that there are so many micros abroad and none of them is going to be universally useful for future tasks. cheers, Neville Michie On 07/07/2008, at 6:01 PM, Hal Murray wrote: The GPS may drop out, so a disciplined oscillator is in order, but how can you get the GPS signals

Re: [time-nuts] Old Loran

2008-07-13 Thread Neville Michie
circuit left the phantastron in a static condition until pulses arrived or the timeout circuit reset and the scan from zero delay would start again. Some elements of these ideas are still probably useful, cheers, Neville Michie On 13/07/2008, at 6:43 PM, Hal Murray wrote: I found

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt monitor

2008-07-17 Thread Neville Michie
From my thermionic valve days, the emmissivity of a filament was greatly extended by under-running them. If the display is pemanently run at a lower current in dim mode, how long could the life be extended by dropping the filament voltage by a small margin? cheers, Neville Michie On 18/07

Re: [time-nuts] Double ovened 10811-60158 on ebay

2008-07-19 Thread Neville Michie
Hi, surely an oven that controls to 1*C limits the inner xtal oven from the outside 0 - 50*C, so with a finite gain on the inner oven the oven the XTAL is controlled 50 times as well? Thats why they use double ovens. cheers, Neville Michie On 20/07/2008, at 1:40 PM, Rick Karlquist wrote

Re: [time-nuts] Double ovened 10811-60158 on ebay

2008-07-20 Thread Neville Michie
is to wind two platinum wires on a P2O5 containing fibre glass pad, and electrolyse any water absorbed to oxygen and hydrogen gas after it is sealed. Vacuum tube sealing and evacuation works well. cheers, Neville MIchie On 20/07/2008, at 8:54 PM, Mike S wrote: At 01:17 AM 7/20/2008, Ed Palmer wrote

Re: [time-nuts] Double ovened 10811-60158 on ebay

2008-07-20 Thread Neville Michie
sensitivity of wool has a temperature consequence, and latent heat and heat of hydration are released as moisture is absorbed. This usually only adds to the thermal stability of the insulated item, which is why wool is comfortable to wear. Just in case you were interested, Neville Michie

Re: [time-nuts] LPRO 101 ADJUSTMENT

2008-07-25 Thread Neville Michie
on the electrical input while I use the internal pot to adjust it centre scale or if it runs off scale. That way I can get microhertz steps of adjustment from an external circuit without an extreme stability DAC. cheers, Neville Michie On 26/07/2008, at 8:51 AM, jshank wrote: Hi, I recently acquired

Re: [time-nuts] How to get 32.768KHz from 10MHz.

2008-07-28 Thread Neville Michie
. just in case you were interested, cheers, Neville Michie On 29/07/2008, at 9:35 AM, Jim Lux wrote: At 04:22 PM 7/28/2008, you wrote: On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:22:08 -0700, Jim Lux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based on the clocks I've taken apart, dividing the 10MHz down to 1 Hz is probably

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt self-survey results...

2008-08-30 Thread Neville Michie
surprise in variable height data. What would be interesting is a correlation between apparent height error and night minimum temperature at ground level (air temperature 2 metres from the ground). cheers, Neville Michie On 31/08/2008, at 6:15 AM, Mark Sims wrote: Besides the wonky geoid

[time-nuts] TBOLT communications

2008-08-31 Thread Neville Michie
, Neville Michie ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Driving clocks from 1pps

2008-09-04 Thread Neville Michie
, Neville Michie On 05/09/2008, at 7:30 AM, Murray Greenman wrote: In the light of the latest posts on driving clocks from 1pps, it sounds as though I'd better rethink what I was planning! I am in the middle of the design of a micro which uses a 10MHz crystal to provide a digital clock

Re: [time-nuts] VNG

2008-09-08 Thread Neville Michie
weeks to see if it drifts in frequency. cheers, Neville Michie On 08/09/2008, at 2:59 PM, Jim Palfreyman wrote: Yes I was really interested in that unit many years back and made enquiries. It all came to nothing. Hence my dive into time and frequency standards to learn to build my own

Re: [time-nuts] Ancient OCXO in scope calibrator.

2008-09-09 Thread Neville Michie
and started for each trace so as to be in phase with the synch pulse. The CRO was probably 1950s vintage, I was using it in 1961 for calibration of navigation radar. The CRO tubes were very non-linear so graticule divisions were not accurate enough. cheers, Neville Michie _ time-nuts

[time-nuts] Temp control of LPRO

2008-09-10 Thread Neville Michie
is to get on with the building of the gear to measure how well the LPRO now performs at constant temperature. Cheers, Neville Michie ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

Re: [time-nuts] Temp control of LPRO

2008-09-10 Thread Neville Michie
comparing the phase of PPS from GPS stabilised systems to the divided 10MHz from the LPRO over a period of days, weeks, months or years. cheers, Neville Michie On 11/09/2008, at 4:35 AM, Hal Murray wrote: I have just commissioned a temperature control for my LPRO rubidium oscillator. The next

Re: [time-nuts] Temp control of LPRO

2008-09-10 Thread Neville Michie
is a duct with fins that the tiny fan blows through and by switching the fan I get control much better than 0.1*C. I am looking forward to measuring its performance in frequency stability. cheers, Neville Michie On 11/09/2008, at 4:35 AM, WB6BNQ wrote: Hi Neville, In all seriousness, I thought

[time-nuts] TBOLT communication

2008-09-24 Thread Neville Michie
with a conventional serial port. Now I vaguely remember talk about RS232 communications and the need for pull up or down resistors and supplies, but searching the archives I could find nothing relevant. Can anyone tell me how I could run the TBOLT off a USB/Serial converter? cheers, Neville Michie

[time-nuts] TBolt Monitor

2008-10-05 Thread Neville Michie
, Neville Michie ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] TBolt Monitor

2008-10-05 Thread Neville Michie
indicate UTC. Constructing a micro project is no problem, but the program development and installation is a sticking point. cheers, Neville Michie On 06/10/2008, at 3:08 AM, Didier Juges wrote: Tell me what kind of signal you need to drive your clock, and I may be able to get what you need from

Re: [time-nuts] TBolt Monitor

2008-10-05 Thread Neville Michie
very specific to a project, but the pulse per minute overcomes a major part of the problem of identifying which pulse is which with the PPS at little cost to the project. Neville Michie On 06/10/2008, at 12:13 PM, Didier Juges wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

[time-nuts] How many seconds in a year?

2008-10-14 Thread Neville Michie
answers on Google but none that seemed good enough to set your clock by. By clock I just mean a rubidium clock that is harmonised to the GPS system. cheers, Neville Michie ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https

Re: [time-nuts] How many seconds in a year?

2008-10-14 Thread Neville Michie
with sunset at 6PM. The old clocks had dials marked so that you read off the elastic Italian hours. cheers, Neville Michie time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ time-nuts and follow the instructions

Re: [time-nuts] Question and help with LPRO-101

2008-10-20 Thread Neville Michie
they warned that the metal was annealed and lost its properties if it was bent (work hardened I assume). So just be careful to gently spring the case just enough for the pips to clear the locating holes. The frequency of operation depends precisely on the magnetic field, cheers, Neville MIchie

Re: [time-nuts] Question on crystal jumps

2008-10-22 Thread Neville Michie
will improve the frequency accuracy by a large ratio. cheers, Neville Michie On 23/10/2008, at 8:02 AM, iovane@@inwind..it wrote: I would be very pleased to know when (date and time) anybody out there happened to record jumps in frequency of crystals. I have stable (e-07) tuning forks which

Re: [time-nuts] Question on crystal jumps

2008-10-22 Thread Neville Michie
rate , and then after 3 - 6 months it will suddenly jump to a new rate as shown if Fig 8.1. He goes on to say that this is part of a random walk process. I hope that is of some help. Neville MIchie On 23/10/2008, at 9:34 AM, iovane@@inwind..it wrote: Neville, Hi Antonio, precise pendulum

Re: [time-nuts] Question on crystal jumps

2008-10-23 Thread Neville Michie
has little effect on the output. I guess that all the crystal does is to filter what must be a quite noisy signal from the atomic resonance. When I inspected the circuit board I could not even find the crystal, it is not in a grand crystal can. cheers, Neville Michie On 23/10/2008, at 9:42

Re: [time-nuts] Question on crystal jumps

2008-10-23 Thread Neville Michie
gross thermal cycling reduce ageing? just some thoughts, Neville mIchie On 24/10/2008, at 3:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Steve, the jumps don't anneal themselves, they are permanent changes in frequency. The crystal is off-frequency after a jump. This has to be compensated

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 51, Issue 80

2008-10-24 Thread Neville Michie
hi Tom and Frank, I am a member of NAWCC, and the Sydney Clockmakers Society. cheers, Neville Michie On 25/10/2008, at 6:59 AM, Thomas A. Frank wrote: Hi Carl; I am. Tom Frank, KA2CDK On Oct 24, 2008, at 9:57 AM, Carl Dreher wrote: Hi, Just wondered how many people on this list

Re: [time-nuts] ?Death of TBolt?

2008-10-26 Thread Neville Michie
the USB-serial converter. I tried two different brands of USB-serial converters on my laptop and both work perfectly well. I hope this may help you, Neville Michie On 27/10/2008, at 4:44 AM, J. L. Trantham wrote: I have developed a problem with one of the TBolt's that I got through

Re: [time-nuts] Rb lamp lifetime...

2008-11-02 Thread Neville Michie
Hi Antonio, I have taken the cover off my LPRO but I could not see the lamp. I guess it is in the smaller housing. What does the lamp look like and how do you remove it? I do not want to damage my unit. cheers, Neville Michie On 02/11/2008, at 9:06 PM, iovane@@inwind..it wrote: Yuri

Re: [time-nuts] Checking accuracy of Rubidium standards

2008-11-08 Thread Neville Michie
a low pass filter and this will prevent short period variances from being calculated. cheers, Neville Michie On 09/11/2008, at 8:43 AM, Alan Melia wrote: This is an interesting thread again.it may be similar to ones that have been discussed, but one or two furthur questions occur to me. I

Re: [time-nuts] Checking accuracy of Rubidium standards

2008-11-09 Thread Neville Michie
is taking me. cheers, Neville Michie On 10/11/2008, at 1:38 PM, Bruce Griffiths wrote: Joe J. L. Trantham wrote: I have been enjoying this discussion. Since the original question was the desire to 'compare' the frequency of an LPRO to a Z3801, it seems that you could consider that from two

Re: [time-nuts] US Shipping Was huntron tracker advice

2008-11-27 Thread Neville Michie
not have found anything as useful in Australia at the price. cheers, Neville Michie On 27/11/2008, at 7:55 PM, Steve Rooke wrote: Hmmm... International Traffic in Arms Regulations, well I don't like to poke holes in that excuse but unless the US customs are REALLY paranoid, I can't see how most

Re: [time-nuts] VRefs - I'm a bigger Voltnut than a timenut..

2008-11-30 Thread Neville Michie
. The big difficulty with temperature measurement is that you need circulating thermostat baths to immerse things in to compare temperatures to any accuracy. You only need one or two of those in your shack to have no room for your time standards, voltage standards etc. cheers, Neville Michie

Re: [time-nuts] Cesium vs H Maser clocks

2008-12-02 Thread Neville Michie
unlike volts and things gravity is one variable that frequency/time can be used to define. Although I dont think you will find a frequency/gravity transducer on fleabay. cheers, Neville Michie On 03/12/2008, at 3:56 PM, Jim Palfreyman wrote: 2008/11/29 Mike S [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 01:30 AM

Re: [time-nuts] gravimeters

2008-12-12 Thread Neville Michie
to escape from earth's atmosphere to be lost for all time. We should be doing all the research that needs helium now, because we will not be able to do it in the future. Every time my grand kids play with a helium balloon I feel guilty. Neville mIchie On 13/12/2008, at 9:15 AM, Lux, James P wrote

[time-nuts] PC run FFT

2008-12-20 Thread Neville Michie
Hi, does anyone know of a fast fourier transform module or subroutine that could be run in XCEL ? Or a small program that could process a data set in a PC. It is a convenient way of handling data but I have not seen a FFT in the box of tricks. cheers, Neville Michie

Re: [time-nuts] PC run FFT

2008-12-20 Thread Neville Michie
Thanks all, I had looked but did not see... I have found the function in Excel, now I will revise the subject with Bracewell and try to use it. Thanks, Neville Michie On 21/12/2008, at 10:59 AM, iovane@@inwind..it wrote: I've been using the Xcel built in FFT, and even under WinXP

Re: [time-nuts] Solstice question, about 5000 years ago

2008-12-21 Thread Neville Michie
and Newton had thrown their discoveries in we called it modern times. Then Einstein came along and we have time nuts. cheers, Merry solstice, Neville Michie On 21/12/2008, at 9:25 PM, Michael Sokolov wrote: Bill Hawkins b...@iaxs.net wrote: The passage grave at New Grange, Ireland, is one

Re: [time-nuts] Request for MC598X4 and Datum LPRO datasheet

2008-12-26 Thread Neville Michie
Hi, The LPRO manual has a circuit mistake on page 16. The north end of R145 should go to +17V, not the resistor junction. It may make a difference when interfacing the unit. Seasons Greetings Neville Michie On 27/12/2008, at 12:06 PM, Didier wrote: Go to http://www.ko4bb.com/cgi-bin/search.pl

Re: [time-nuts] How are you going to spend your extra second?

2008-12-29 Thread Neville Michie
to guns in USA. Now I have had my say, lets get back to time-nut business. cheers, Neville Michie On 29/12/2008, at 7:03 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message 4958746c.9040...@erols.com, Chuck Harris writes: Jim Palfreyman wrote: I suppose it's nuts is it to want to live in a society where

Re: [time-nuts] Capturing CHU frequency switchover

2008-12-31 Thread Neville Michie
a precise, accurate, happy and very prosperous New Year, Neville Michie On 31/12/2008, at 6:00 PM, Magnus Danielson wrote: Hi! I don't have the equipment for it, but I am sure that a ham near would be able to pull this off. Here the deal: After seventy years of broadcasting Canada's

Re: [time-nuts] LPRO-101 Heatsinking

2009-01-12 Thread Neville Michie
finish building some more gear I will get the improved performance data, cheers, Neville Michie On 12/01/2009, at 6:07 PM, Michael Baker wrote: Hello, Timenutters-- I only have experience with four different LPRO-101 units, but with respect to heatsinking, all 4 behaved identically during my

Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-01-16 Thread Neville Michie
I was once told that the white sticky paste put under power transistors years ago as a heat conduction aid was dangerous because it was based on berylium oxide cheers, Neville Michie ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] Any experienced HP 2804A thermometer users out there?

2009-01-24 Thread Neville Michie
trick also works here to remove DVM offset. I know this is not using the quartz thermometer directly but it would be a very good way to measure a board to 1millikelvin. For theoretical reasons a thermocouple can not have a temperature offset. cheers, Neville Michie --- On Sat, 24/1/09, John

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