Re: [time-nuts] Advice on 10 MHz isolation/distribution

2010-02-19 Thread Pete Rawson
Clay, Analog devices AD4899-1 voltage noise = 2nV/rtHz @ 10Hz; GBW = 300MHz. Pete Rawson On Feb 19, 2010, at 12:05 PM, life speed wrote: Any opinions on the suitability of the TI OPA820 as a 10 MHz distribution amp? The voltage noise is only 7 nV/rtHz @ 100 Hz (gain=2, I'll be using g=1

Re: [time-nuts] Advice on 10 MHz isolation/distribution

2010-02-19 Thread Pete Rawson
Clay, I would really like to have a copy of your test board for this effort. I'm sure it will be a challenging layout. But it could be a very handy piece of hardware. Supporting a PCA order would easy to do. Pete Rawson On Feb 19, 2010, at 6:17 PM, life speed wrote: If I can believe

Re: [time-nuts] Advice on 10 MHz isolation/distribution (Clay)

2010-02-20 Thread Pete Rawson
accessory, even if the reverse isolation results were down to 60dB. Pete On Feb 20, 2010, at 12:46 PM, life speed wrote: From: Pete Rawson peteraw...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Advice on 10 MHz isolation/distribution To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts

[time-nuts] Tbolt OCXO

2010-02-24 Thread Pete Rawson
I'm trying to identify the OCXO in my Tbolt; hoping that it's one of the newer parts, as in the TAPR units. Is there a P/N, or other obvious means of identifying the newer, low noise OCXOs? Pete Rawson ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] 5370A vs 5370B

2010-03-09 Thread Pete Rawson
have very carefully matched the trigger points, the results from your unit are reasonable. Pete Rawson On Mar 9, 2010, at 6:37 PM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi Ok, the trigger level pots are bent but functional. The one that was stuck works after a bit of readjustment of the knob. All three

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5372A Fan

2010-03-10 Thread Pete Rawson
Ed, From your description of the fan noise, I have one concern. If the fan speed seems to increase without a good cleaning or change in the supply voltage, then it's likely that the airflow has been decreased, an obvious speed up is not good news. Pete Rawson On Mar 9, 2010, at 10:44 PM, Ed

Re: [time-nuts] oscillator choice question

2010-05-02 Thread Pete Rawson
Jim, More technical stuff @ http://www.sotiriadis.info/ Pete Rawson On May 2, 2010, at 10:27 AM, jimlux wrote: Hal Murray wrote: bruce.griffi...@xtra.co.nz said: If there is no electronic tuning available one can use a DDS based synthesiser to produce a corrected output frequency. However

Re: [time-nuts] HP 11729C versus 11848A

2010-05-07 Thread Pete Rawson
With the 11729B/C it's easy to reroute the mixer output directly to the front panel. The internal mixer is decent, but it can also be easily be replaced with a high power unit if that's desired. Starting with a box which needs no S/W to drive it can be useful. Pete Rawson On May 7, 2010, at 1:13

Re: [time-nuts] Fiberoptic 10MHz link

2010-06-02 Thread Pete Rawson
N0UU, At 10MHz, a very robust toroid wound transformer is easy to construct and can provide several KV of isolation, with little signal loss. Any low loss powder iron core and 15 or 20 turns of silicone rubber insulated wire will suffice for signals up to 1 or 2 Vrms. Pete Rawson On Jun 2

Re: [time-nuts] Advantages Disadvantages of the TPLL Method

2010-06-19 Thread Pete Rawson
= 5uRad (80fs) @ 10MHz. With more care, or better equipment, 10fs resolution might be possible; but it will be difficult. Without knowing the noise type involved, it's unclear what benefit might be provided by averaging. More work needs to be done. Pete Rawson

Re: [time-nuts] Low jitter oscillators

2010-08-15 Thread Pete Rawson
informal communication within Agilent that the low jitter 10811 devices exhibit 180fs rms jitter routinely. Pete Rawson ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] WTB: Older Version of LabView

2010-08-17 Thread Pete Rawson
. Student versions have been on *bay for less than $90. Pete Rawson ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] WTB: Older Version of LabView

2010-08-17 Thread Pete Rawson
Yes, the student edition is fully functional. Printed results will include a Student Edition water mark to remind you it's not for publication. Pete Rawson On Aug 17, 2010, at 9:07 AM, J. Forster wrote: Do the Student Versions allow full access and use of the NI Driver library? I want

[time-nuts] Chuck Norton's passing

2010-09-06 Thread Pete Rawson
and always willing to help anyone he could. He will be missed. Pete Rawson ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Timing Distribution in Mountainous Terrain

2010-09-10 Thread Pete Rawson
Can you use tethered balloons at each site to obtain adequate S/N in their position to permit time calculations to 30ns uncertainty? Pete Rawson On Sep 10, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Oz-in-DFW wrote: On 9/9/2010 2:03 PM, Ralph Smith wrote: 1e-11 only buys you 3000 seconds of drift before blowing

Re: [time-nuts] Timing Distribution in Mountainous Terrain

2010-09-10 Thread Pete Rawson
will create negligible error. Ballons might be at each site to create redundant data suffer a few lost ballons while waiting for replacements, or to switch time master. It might be necessary to update path properties just prior to timing. Pete Rawson On Sep 10, 2010, at 12:14 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote

Re: [time-nuts] Upgrading old Thunderbolt?

2010-09-24 Thread Pete Rawson
The OXCOs are identical on the schematic, but pinout patterns vary. At least mine did, which can be cobbled around, but not fun. Pete Rawson On Sep 24, 2010, at 6:18 PM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi The new-er ocxo's are available on the e place for about $50. Replacement tbolts are $60 to$120

Re: [time-nuts] Zero dead time and average frequency estimation

2010-01-31 Thread Pete Rawson
these, but they might serve to get a conversation underway. Any enlightenment would be greatly appreciated. Pete Rawson On Jan 31, 2010, at 8:50 PM, Tom Van Baak wrote: Magnus, Correct, all the terms cancel between the end points. Note that this is exactly equivalent to the way a traditional gated

Re: [time-nuts] Test Equipment

2010-02-01 Thread Pete Rawson
The early production E8285A units operate all RF functions down to 100KHz. You have to ask the seller to verify what he's offering operates this way. Pete Rawson On Feb 1, 2010, at 8:18 PM, k3...@aol.com wrote: If goggle HP 8285a spec, you will get HP spec which say this unit is 800 Mhz up

Re: [time-nuts] CPLDs for clock dividers

2010-02-03 Thread Pete Rawson
On the subject of dividers, the 74HC4059 is a synchronous CMOS part with a really easy to use divide by 10K function favorable jitter performance. It's cheap available from distributors. With a 10MHZ sinewave input, jitter measures less than 4ps rms 27ps p-p on 2 samples I checked. Pete

[time-nuts] ADEV vs MDEV

2010-02-05 Thread Pete Rawson
similarly. I would appreciate any comments or observations on this topic. My motivation is to discover the simplest scheme for making stability measurements at this performance level; this is NOT even close to the state-of-the-art, but can still be useful. Pete Rawson

Re: [time-nuts] ADEV vs MDEV

2010-02-06 Thread Pete Rawson
Bruce, THANKS. The paper you provided the last link for is excellent. I haven't seen it before it provides a marvelous explanation of the various stability tools. The specs on the CNT81 don't reveal that the 50ps single shot TI capability is what the built-in display shows. The GPIB data

Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz phase detector: 4046 or separate XOR (74HCT1G86)?

2010-11-05 Thread Pete Rawson
Achim, The 74LV4046 from Texas Instruments is far superior to any of the earlier variants. It can accept much wider range of both amplitude frequency to yield clean, fast and low jitter output. Pete Rawson On Nov 5, 2010, at 2:28 AM, Achim Vollhardt wrote: Any idea on what would

[time-nuts] please un subscribe Pete to Time Nuts

2011-06-02 Thread Pete Rawson
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Re: [time-nuts] please un subscribe Pete to Time Nuts

2011-06-02 Thread Pete Rawson
This was for Pete Rawson. When I go to unsubscribe it says it is an untrusted site, so this is the best I can do under the circumstances. Pete Rawson died Dec 3 and I am just closing out his e-mail. Sorry not to notify people sooner. I didn't know if he knew any of the group personally