Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time..

2008-10-30 Thread David Ackrill
Steve Rooke wrote: I guess the question is, what's the likely-hood of a world standard time being adopted (sort of like Star Trek)? I would say it's very unlikely to happen. People tend to prefer the time in their area to match up with the day. So, having the sun come up at 7pm wouldn't

Re: [time-nuts] Does the EU or another European country have an equivalent of http://www.usno.navy.mil ?

2008-10-06 Thread David Ackrill
Gretchen Baxter wrote: Hi, I am doing research for my employer around time synchronization. I have found a lot of good information at http://www.usno.navy.mil But does the EU or other European countries have a similar source? Several universities and scientific organisations in various

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble GPSDO power suply unit.

2008-09-12 Thread David Ackrill
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After connecting all wires to the Trimble plug and made a check if all voltage is correct and left the PS unit to run on the table without load/connecting to the GPSDO, about 15min got a big bang and the Power Supply Unit blow-up. On my unit the PSU was not working

Re: [time-nuts] New to the list...Hello from Melbourne

2008-08-31 Thread David Ackrill
Clint Jeffrey - VK3CSJ wrote: As for me now, there are a couple of interests, I'm wanting to put together a receiver operating at 8.4GHz where the PLO is referenced (10MHz) from a OCXO which in turn is getting it's reference from a GPS Rx with a 10KHz output, all for the sake of increased

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt self-survey results...

2008-08-30 Thread David Ackrill
Michael Baker wrote: However, after completing its self-survey it thinks its elevation is 11.2 meters when the actual elevation of its antenna (on my house roof) is 28.4 meters. I've not found any GPS receiver, available to the general pubic anyway, that correctly reports its height above

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt self-survey results...

2008-08-30 Thread David Ackrill
There's a discussion of the different height measurements and the errors found when using 4 Garmin GPS receivers at http://users.erols.com/dlwilson/gpsvert.htm ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] TBolt question

2008-08-24 Thread David Ackrill
Thomas A. Frank wrote: Just to add a little confusion to the mix, mine is marked 5/1/03 Rev A I wonder who will prove to have the last maked TB? Mine has 4/26/04 Rev E, which I guess is the American notation for 26th April 2004. Dave ___

Re: [time-nuts] Importing into EEC

2008-08-15 Thread David Ackrill
Jim Palfreyman wrote: My pet hate is loose and lose. Perhaps we could form a chapter of the ? http://www.worldwidewords.org/articles/apostrophe.htm Dave (G0DJA) ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] CE Mark

2008-08-15 Thread David Ackrill
David Forbes wrote: This is interesting. It means that I, as an American exporter selling directly to end customers in the EU, do NOT need to CE mark my American made products. I have bought several items from the US for personal use, and not for resale, I don't remember any of them

Re: [time-nuts] GPS shielding by power lines?

2008-08-10 Thread David Ackrill
Alan Melia wrote: Hi Tom Brilliant I hadnt thought of the fields actually affecting the operation of the electronics! that is certainly something that might be interesting to check. I note there lines have three phase feeds but no neutral wire so they must use ground as the return path to any

Re: [time-nuts] GPS shielding by power lines?

2008-08-10 Thread David Ackrill
Arnold Tibus wrote: As long as the system is kept balanced a 3 phase energy transport system does not need a 4th wire as the sum of all the currents in the 3 wires (phase shift 120deg between the wires) is zero! regards Arnold, DK2WT That is true Arnold, but in the UK (and in some other

Re: [time-nuts] GPS shielding by power lines?

2008-08-10 Thread David Ackrill
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: The fact that the navigation message is 50Hz in the GPS signal and the power-grid in the UK is close to 50Hz is not a good thing in any case. By UK law, it must be within +/- 1% of 50Hz. :-) Dave (G0DJA) ___ time-nuts

[time-nuts] Trimble Palisade (Was - GPS shielding by power lines?)

2008-08-10 Thread David Ackrill
Alan Melia wrote: Hi Didier, thanks for that idea, yes they were all pucks all Garmin two intended for marine use and one was a old Garmin GPSIIplus with a mag puck. I have a Trimble Palisade that I have not got round to working on yet, but I understand that there are problems putting this

Re: [time-nuts] Leap Second Pending

2008-07-29 Thread David Ackrill
J. L. Trantham wrote: Same here. Yes, seems that it's pending in the UK as well. ;-) Dave (G0DJA) ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt SV and AMU Signal levels

2008-07-23 Thread David Ackrill
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If your counter will accept an external reference I'd suggest using the Thunderbolt for that and just trusting the results. However, if the figures you've shown represent the resolution limit of your counter then you may want to consider a counter with better

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt SV and AMU Signal levels

2008-07-23 Thread David Ackrill
Ulrich Bangert wrote: just in order to prevent anybody into believing that Variation of +/- one count in the last digit is normal for any counter. It is caused by a slight shift between the counter gate and the input signal. The longer the time between digit changes, the more stable

[time-nuts] Thunderbolt PSU

2008-07-22 Thread David Ackrill
The Thunderbolt arrived today. Thanks again to all involved. However, it looks like my PSU is faulty. I carefully cut the outer on the cable, splayed out the coloured inner connectors, so as to avoid short circuits, and noticed that colours of the insulation on the cable cores did not match

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt PSU

2008-07-22 Thread David Ackrill
Mike S wrote: Most switching supplies require a minimum load to operate correctly. If the output is just open, and you don't see any voltage, it doesn't necessarily indicate a problem. No, the unit is dead... I managed to get another one locally, a place called JPG in Chesterfield. Almost

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt PSU

2008-07-22 Thread David Ackrill
Oh, for anyone else who has the same PSU as I received, the colours of the output, from the markings I can see on the PCB, are as follows. Brown = Ground (Yes, honestly! The brown wire is soldered to the case in my unit) Black = 12 Volts (I presume nevative) Red = +12 Volts Green = +5 Volts

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt PSU

2008-07-22 Thread David Ackrill
Bill Janssen wrote: On my unit White is Common for the other voltage leads and blue is not used. Yes Bill, Now I've had a bit of a poke round, the white is common, it's connected to the ground plane on the main PCB, and the blue wire is cut off just behind the grommet. My Thunderbolt lives!

[time-nuts] Thunderbolt Lives

2008-07-22 Thread David Ackrill
Well, setting up the Trimble software was quite straight forward, and I've got nearly all Green on the alarms. The only two yellowed are Self Survey Activity and Stored Possition. I'll do some reading of the manual before I go messing with any of the settings. Next thing to do is save up

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Lives

2008-07-22 Thread David Ackrill
David C. Partridge wrote: The self survey will go green after it has completed the survey as will the stored position. Thanks for the advice Dave, Yes, I can see that it's only 73% through the self survey, so I'll leave it whilst I do the dinner, and see if it's finished by then. Did I

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Lives

2008-07-22 Thread David Ackrill
David C. Partridge wrote: The self survey will go green after it has completed the survey as will the stored position. The Self Survey has gone green as Self-Survey Progress is at 100% now, and the Thunderbolt is seeing 7 out of the 8 satellites at the moment. However, Stored Position is

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Lives

2008-07-22 Thread David Ackrill
Only 3 sats visible and the Thunderbolt has un-locked. I guess I need to get an external antenna up ouside and clear of as many obstructions as I can make it. Dave (G0DJA) ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Lives

2008-07-22 Thread David Ackrill
Bill Beam wrote: The unit was shipped configured not to save position after a self-survey. This assures a Self-Survey after power cycle. Thanks Bill, Someone else pointed out my mistake as well. So, I've now set the self-survey up again after doing as you suggested. Thanks - Dave (G0DJA)

[time-nuts] Thunderbolt SV and AMU Signal levels

2008-07-22 Thread David Ackrill
Sorry to be a bore, but like any kid with a new toy I'm facinated by the changing values on the display... What do the values under SV and AMU mean? Maybe I should recognise them from other GPS satellite days, but they don't seem to be values that I remember. I'm sure it all means that they

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt SV and AMU Signal levels

2008-07-22 Thread David Ackrill
Oh well then, I guess everyone is asleep. So, GN all. Dave (G0DJA) ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt SV and AMU Signal levels

2008-07-22 Thread David Ackrill
Chris Kuethe wrote: What do the values under SV and AMU mean? SV = space vehicle. mostly irrelevant, unless you care about the serial number of the bit of metal up there. Usually people mean to say PRN, or Pseudo-Random Noise code number - one of the 32 codes transmitted by the satellite.

Re: [time-nuts] Power splitter on the Thunderbolt units

2008-07-17 Thread David Ackrill
Tom Van Baak wrote: It was used with the 10 MHz output; either to split the output or to combine with a phased locked 10 MHz backup source (we've seen this on other telecom frequency references). Sounds like a nice little 'freebe' for some. :-) I can understand that it would be better to

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Palisade

2008-07-15 Thread David Ackrill
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 14/07/2008 21:09:41 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone have any useful information on using it, or should I open it up and replace the multiway socket and see if I can do something else other than mount it outside

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Palisade

2008-07-15 Thread David Ackrill
Tom Van Baak wrote: Google for Trimble Palisade or see if this helps: I did :-) Thanks for the additional site, I'd not seen that. Cheers - Dave ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Palisade

2008-07-15 Thread David Ackrill
Robert Berg wrote: I picked up a couple of prewired cables for the Palisade from tiger- tech.biz Thanks Bob, I'll follow that up. Cheers - Dave ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

[time-nuts] Thunderbolt - On its way!

2008-07-14 Thread David Ackrill
I just received confirmation that my payment has been cleared, so I hope my Thunderbolt is on its way. :-) Thanks to all involved. I hope to be trawling back through the discussions on software soon. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com

[time-nuts] Trimble Palisade

2008-07-14 Thread David Ackrill
For a very good price I bought a Trimble Palisade the other day. It came without the multiway plug, so I wonder if there's a source of those anywhere? I did find websites for programs for extracting 1PPS data, and even an add on NMEA board, but I'm not really bothered about that. Does anyone

Re: [time-nuts] TBolt UK import

2008-06-22 Thread David Ackrill
Roy Phillips wrote: Phil Thanks for the information on importing a Thunderbolt into the UK. I hope you are correct regarding the final imported price because it is usually the case that to bring an item into the UK makes the end price in £ sterling the equal to the US $ price in US $ !?

Re: [time-nuts] TAPR now open for Thunderbolt orders

2008-06-21 Thread David Ackrill
John Ackermann N8UR wrote: Hello! We're happy to announce that TAPR is now accepting orders from time-nuts subscribers for the Trimble Thunderbolt GPSDO units. Great news. :-) Thank you to all that have made this possible, I've just placed my order. I intend to use it to lock any future

Re: [time-nuts] Strange reports of bocked messages to timenuts

2008-05-17 Thread David Ackrill
Dr. David Kirkby wrote: I've been receiving some emails which claim to come from my ISP saying my messages to timenuts have been blocked due to spam. A typical subject line is [time-nuts] ***Your message was blocked*** But I've not sent a message! I don't think it was necessarily from

Re: [time-nuts] Administrivia: Please don't use the Spam button to unsubscribe

2008-05-14 Thread David Ackrill
Neon John wrote: BTW, John, what other lists do you run? I can answer that one, I found a list at https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo Which I got to by taking the time-nuts off the end of the unsubscribe link at the bottom of the email. ;-) Now, where did I leave my

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Group Buy, part 1

2008-05-07 Thread David Ackrill
Attila Kinali wrote: Although, such behaviour has existed since the first cave men draw pictures on the walls of their caves, i have the impression that it is getting more and more pronounced over the last years. And as you can see, it even caught technical people who were among those who

[time-nuts] PC Clock adjustments

2008-03-09 Thread David Ackrill
Hello, I'm new to this forum, so please excuse me if I use the wrong terminology, or show up my lack of knowledge in the subject of keeping time. Please also excuse the length of this message, but I thought it would be best to explain, as much as I can, the set up here and the problems that

Re: [time-nuts] PC Clock adjustments

2008-03-09 Thread David Ackrill
Bruce Griffiths wrote: Automatic adjustment of the clock rate to minimise power is incompatible with accurate timekeeping. Thanks for the responce Bruce, I don't think the newer PC has that facility, and the load on it is not all that great normally. The CPU usually reports well under

Re: [time-nuts] PC Clock adjustments

2008-03-09 Thread David Ackrill
David Ackrill wrote: Bruce Griffiths wrote: Automatic adjustment of the clock rate to minimise power is incompatible with accurate timekeeping. Thanks for the responce Bruce, I don't think the newer PC has that facility, and the load on it is not all that great normally. AH

Re: [time-nuts] PC Clock adjustments

2008-03-09 Thread David Ackrill
David Ackrill wrote: Anyway, at least I know more about the motherboards and operating systems in both my PCs now. :-) Don't they say that pride comes ahead of a fall? I decided to get rid of my errant XP machine, and it was sort of working OK, so I reinstalled Windows XP and went out