Re: [time-nuts] Low CostTemperature sensor
Even cheaper... Diiode as a cheap sensor ? https://www.arrow.com/en/research-and-events/articles/using-a-simple-diode-as-a-ballpark-temperature-sensor On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Bill Hawkinswrote: > Perrier, > > Google finds a Siemens NI1000 sensor that follows the nickel curve. > Nickel is popular in industrial control for cost, but not as accurate as > platinum. Converting the platinum curve to accurate temperatures > requires a second order equation, but has been done with 0.1% analog > converters. > > Digi-key has ZNI devices as surface mount parts. Sparse data said > nothing about a platinum curve. > > I'm curious because my former employer did very well selling platinum > RTD sensors, usually 100 ohms at the triple point. > > Bill Hawkins > > > -Original Message- > From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Perry > Sandeen via time-nuts > Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 9:33 PM > To: time-nuts@febo.com > Subject: [time-nuts] Low CostTemperature sensor > > List, > A while back there was much discussion about temperature sensors. > One simple inexpensive one to consider would be the ZNI1000Temperature > sensor. > It's 1K ohms at 0C and it replicates the temperature curve of the Pt 1K > ohm sensors. > It's about $3 from Digi-Key. > FWIW YMMY > Regards, > Perrier > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- -- Teach your kids Science, or somebody else will :/ ja...@ball.net vk2...@google.com callsign: vk2vjb ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Seiko watch "leap second enabled"
The watch is fine. Ive intentionally set it to be off time to have it automatically recover with essentially leap second precision. On 21 Jul 2016 3:25 p.m., "Mike Cook"wrote: > While I was googling for reports of other misbehaving GPS chips, I > discovered the existence of the worlds first leap second enabled wrist > watch. > Seiko introduced the Astron models 8X53, 8X82, 7X52 which automatically > check for a leap second on ……. > > « Seiko Astron enters the leap second data receiving mode after the first > GPS signal is received on or after June 1st and December 1st. » (User > Manual) > > D’OH!… > > Maybe one of Homer’s inventions. > > If any of you have one, have you checked how it has reacted? > > > "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those > who have not got it. » > George Bernard Shaw > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Timelab Query (likely noob error)
Thanks John. Definite Noob issue. It helps to have the counter in the correct mode as well ;) All working as it should be now. Cheers Jason. On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 7:54 PM, John Miles <j...@miles.io> wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Jason > Ball > > Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 10:38 PM > > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > > Subject: [time-nuts] Timelab Query (likely noob error) > > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm afraid this may be a noob question as I've undoubtedly done something > > wrong, either that or I have some phenominal time sources... more likely > > I've made an error in an assumption or two. This should to my mind be > > within the capabilities of the counter I have, but right now I'm starting > > to wonder. > > > > The problem is I'm seeing a 10s tau of 9.29E-18 which to my limited > > understanding is highly doubtful. > > > > So what have I done wrong ? > > > > Hi, Jason -- > > Let's take a look at the .tim file (email it to j...@miles.io) -- > probably just a missing/inappropriate scale factor. > > -- john, KE5FX > Miles Design LLC > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- -- Teach your kids Science, or somebody else will :/ ja...@ball.net vk2...@google.com <vk2f...@google.com> callsign: vk2vjb ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] New Symmetricom 58532A antennas - Launch3
Thank you ;) On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 5:19 AM, Gregory Beatwrote: > I received this e-mail earlier today (below) from Launch3. > Launch3 has been selling surplus/overstock cellular/telecom equipment. > They currently have a LARGE supply (~750) of surplus Symmetricom 58532A > antennas. > > Symmetricom 58532A GPS Antenna -- Datasheet > http://www.microsemi.com/document-portal/doc_view/133381-58532a > > I acquired one of these antennas 2 weeks ago, they are brand new in box. > My 58532A antenna is currently connected to a Symmetricom/Datum TS2100 GPS > w/Heol N024 receiver upgrade. > > Check their web site and contact them (web page info), with number you > desire, > so they can determined shipping charges. > > Greg > w9gb > > From: Launch3 > > Hello > > You previously purchased or inquired about the Symmetricom 58532A GPS > Antennas, we are currently liquating all 750 of them. > They are all New in Box and the price is $25 each + Shipping > > Link to the part - https://www.launch3telecom.com/symmetricom/58532a.html > > Launch3Telecom.com > Launch3Services.com > 27 Daniel Rd. > Fairfield, New Jersey 07004 > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- -- Teach your kids Science, or somebody else will :/ ja...@ball.net vk2...@google.com callsign: vk2vjb ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] HP 5372A available in Sydney, Australia
Since its a relevant piece of kit I've included the mail from ARNSW here. Two units are available if anybody is interested. Cheers. HP 5372A and Wave Technologies DTS2070 digital time system. Amateur Radio NSW as for sale two HP 5372A time and interval analysers. Both are working with good displays. They have been tested on both inputs for the basic frequency and time measurement functions. Spare input modules are available as are some spare boards. They did not come with manuals. Also one Wave Technologies DTS2070 Digital time measurement system. Powers up OK and was in use when removed for sale. These can be viewed at the club rooms at 63 Quarry Rd Dural. Prospective buyers are welcome to test the equipment. Please contact by email at arnsw.sa...@gmail.com . The HP5372As are advertised on the ARNSW web site at http://www.arnsw.org.au/html/page_disposals.html -- -- Teach your kids Science, or somebody else will :/ ja...@ball.net vk2...@google.comcallsign: vk2vjb ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Has my TBolt gone south ?
Or if your in Australia, a cockatoo. I've had to rerun my coax twice over the past 12 months On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 9:18 AM, William Beam wb...@gci.net wrote: A nearby thunderstorm could have taken out the preamp in the antenna. 73 Bill Beam NL7F - Original Message - From: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement To: Cc: Sent:Wed, 12 Aug 2015 23:29:45 +0200 Subject:Re: [time-nuts] Has my TBolt gone south ? On 8/12/2015 8:29 PM, Hal Murray wrote: How long did you wait after turning it on? How good is your antenna position? Did you tell it to remember the location after a survey finished? If it's been off for a few weeks, it doesn't know where the satellites are. To get started, it has to find one by a brute force search. With a good antenna, that doesn't take very long. Then it takes 15 minutes to collect the satellite info. With a poor antenna location, it takes longer, maybe a lot longer. Thanks Hal for your answer. My TB now is switched on since yesterday, but no satellites are acquired... Last time I switched it on, it worked, and, even after a long off period, it did take not more than a few minutes to acquire the first satellite. Yesterday, after I saw that no satellites did show up in LH, I issued the ! command to do a cold reset, just to see if it could be of help. My antenna is a timing antenna, on the chimney of my house, completely free from obstacles. There is the possibilities that a thunderstorm has broken its small mast, tomorrow I will check. This seems to be the only reasonable cause of the malfunction... the TB accepts commands and sends back status info. Unless its GPS receiver has developed a fault.. 73 Alberto I2PHD ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- -- Teach your kids Science, or somebody else will :/ ja...@ball.net vk2...@google.com vk2f...@google.com callsign: vk2vjb ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lab upgrade
The fault was found by somebody with a heck of a lot more experience than yours truly. Turns out the 5v regulator had shorted out, a protection diode did it's thing and popped the fuse protecting the rest of the system. J. On 29 Jul 2015 2:49 am, Robert LaJeunesse lajeune...@mail.com wrote: One of the cheap and dirty ways to find a short is current tracing. Use a voltage and current limited source and a matching detector to find where the current flows. I've used a current limited DC supply as the source and, for the detector, an old DVM with 10uV resolution. For an AC approach a simple audio oscillator (or function generator) works nicely as the source, while a the detector starts with an audio playback tape head (from an old VCR), then some sort of amplifier-speaker, or maybe just an oscilloscope. If you are lucky you have an old HP logic pulser and current tracer set that do the same thing... Bob L. ... I'll buzz out the pins on the connnector there and see if I can find the probably short and let people know. Cheers Jason ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Picked up the Austral 2200A tonight
A lack of precision in that last email from me it seems. I was planning on using a DDS and re-purposed multiplier board to provide the 1.5Ghz LO, but as the time server needs to use the 10MHz signal to compensate for phase shift this won't necessarily work out as you have indicated.The multiplier board I have _should_ work using a 500Mhz input and tuning the pass filter to the third harmonic while maintaining a sufficient drive for the mixer. Your right on the DDS resolution and lack of reference, I may scrap that plan have to look at a 10Mhz referenced PLL for the input frequency instead. I haven't gotten to the IF filter yet :/ I have to admit a certain temptation to simply pull the rubidium and put it in a box or repurpose the existing box. It would be a shame to waste such a nice piece of obsolete tech though. I have noted a number of blown caps on the voltage regulator board so some repair work needed there. I can not fund the battery backup yet for the configuration settings.. Either its hidden, missing, or I'm having a stupid moment I was under the impression that none of these units were Y2K compliant, however this unit happy accepts dates post Y2K. I can't comment on the GPS rollovers though. Cheers J. Thanks for the help. Cheers Jason. -- -- Teach your kids Science, or somebody else will :/ ja...@ball.net vk2...@google.com vk2f...@google.com callsign: vk2vjb ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] Picked up the Austral 2200A tonight
Just picked it up, it has an internal rubidium which piqued my interest as worst case I could cannibalize the unit. It's also been sitting on a shelf for 10 years so the oscillator should hopefully have some life left in it. What does surprise me is the firmware is dated 25th August 1998, I was of the opinion these units weren't Y2K compliant and would have assumed an update in 1998 would have been tested... gps rollover not withstanding. Is there anyway to get the 10MHz output running off the rubidium without a satellite lock ? I can't seem to trigger it just yet. My plan is to use a DDS to generate a 1.Ghz LO and to feed this into a suitable mixer to down convert to the 75.42Mhz input signal for the gps reference as a start to see if I can get the thing working, allowing for the 1024 week offset of course. Just waiting on parts at the moment. Cheers J. -- -- Teach your kids Science, or somebody else will :/ ja...@ball.net vk2...@google.com vk2f...@google.com callsign: vk2vjb ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lab upgrade
Ok - not so bad. One of the 250v 5Amp inside the case blew on the 10v line. Now to work out why... J. On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Jason Ball ja...@ball.net wrote: Recently I've been on the hunt for test gear so facilitate moving up into the microwave bands (ham radio), accurate timing being one of the basics to be sorted. As part of this I've recently acquired a HP 5335A with OCXO and HP5350B microwave frequency counter, both picked up today. I've setup a test stack using a stanford research function generator and my existing HP 5384A counter to compare all the kit, it was nice to see everything lock in within +5Hz @ 10MHz using only the internal reference. I'll have a GPSDO running in a couple of days to provide an external reference as well. Unfortunately after running for 15 minutes the HP 5335A literally went 'clunk' and now has no display which is disappointing as I wanted some of the measurement functions this unit provides. There's no odd small (for an old system) so I'm hoping its a reasonably simple problem, I'll open the case tonight. Does anybody have any experience with issues on the HP 5335A's ? Cheers j. -- -- Teach your kids Science, or somebody else will :/ ja...@ball.net vk2...@google.com vk2f...@google.com callsign: vk2vjb -- -- Teach your kids Science, or somebody else will :/ ja...@ball.net vk2...@google.com vk2f...@google.com callsign: vk2vjb ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] Austron 2010B useful in Australia/Sydney at all ?
I can pick one up in excellent condition for a reasonably low price... but only if it could be useful. J. -- -- Teach your kids Science, or somebody else will :/ ja...@ball.net vk2...@google.com vk2f...@google.com callsign: vk2vjb ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lab upgrade
Thanks for that Bob. From the circuit diagram the path to ground appears to be on either the 3v the 5v lines that are fed via this fuse. When I disconnect the power supply from the rest of the system the fuse doesn't blow which suggests the fault is in the logic board, of course it could simply mean that connector completes the circuit. I'll buzz out the pins on the connnector there and see if I can find the probably short and let people know. Cheers Jason. On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 7:06 AM, Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org wrote: Hi Look for electrolytic / tantalum capacitors on the 10V rail with scorch marks…. Bob -- Teach your kids Science, or somebody else will :/ ja...@ball.net vk2...@google.com vk2f...@google.com callsign: vk2vjb ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2010B useful in Australia/Sydney at all ?
I've decided to pick up this unit as it is in really nice condition and inexpensive. I'll see if I can pickup the e-loran signals on my ham kit over that weekend to see if there is any point, failing that another member of time buts may be interested. J On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Jason Ball ja...@ball.net wrote: I can pick one up in excellent condition for a reasonably low price... but only if it could be useful. J. -- -- Teach your kids Science, or somebody else will :/ ja...@ball.net vk2...@google.com vk2f...@google.com callsign: vk2vjb -- -- Teach your kids Science, or somebody else will :/ ja...@ball.net vk2...@google.com vk2f...@google.com callsign: vk2vjb ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] Lab upgrade
Recently I've been on the hunt for test gear so facilitate moving up into the microwave bands (ham radio), accurate timing being one of the basics to be sorted. As part of this I've recently acquired a HP 5335A with OCXO and HP5350B microwave frequency counter, both picked up today. I've setup a test stack using a stanford research function generator and my existing HP 5384A counter to compare all the kit, it was nice to see everything lock in within +5Hz @ 10MHz using only the internal reference. I'll have a GPSDO running in a couple of days to provide an external reference as well. Unfortunately after running for 15 minutes the HP 5335A literally went 'clunk' and now has no display which is disappointing as I wanted some of the measurement functions this unit provides. There's no odd small (for an old system) so I'm hoping its a reasonably simple problem, I'll open the case tonight. Does anybody have any experience with issues on the HP 5335A's ? Cheers j. -- -- Teach your kids Science, or somebody else will :/ ja...@ball.net vk2...@google.com vk2f...@google.com callsign: vk2vjb ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] Austron 2200A
While I may be counting chickens, I'm likely to take delivery of an Austron 2200A in the next week. Somewhat predictably the antenna isn't included and I've seen the extensive thread from this mailing list circa 2007 where the thread seemed to peter out at the end. Worst case I could probably pillage the (working) rubidium oscillator that's inside it, ideally it would be nice to get the unit working as is. Did people end up getting their Austron's up and running ? At the moment I'm looking at options to make a down converter to deliver the 75.3Mhz required for the Austron and to power a timing antenna with 5v LNA that I have sitting on the shelf. There are some 23cm amateur kits that would be adapted for the mixer unless there is a 'simpler' solution I've missed. Any suggestions ? Cheers -- -- Teach your kids Science, or somebody else will :/ ja...@ball.net vk2...@google.com vk2f...@google.com callsign: vk2vjb ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] 10MHz Square to Sine Wave Conversion
A would have thought a simple band pass filter would do the job by tuning out the harmonics. On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 3:49 AM, skipp Isaham via time-nuts time-nuts@febo.com wrote: re: 10MHz Square to Sine Wave Conversion The GPSDO I recently acquired outputs a 10 MHz square wave. I'd like to convert it to a sine wave and I am looking for suggestions and info re any reasonable pre-made circuits and/or boards. No sense reinventing the wheel if I can avoid it. Otherwise I will start from scratch and make a new wheel Thank you in advance for your replies. Regards, skipp skipp025 at yahoo dot com ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- -- Teach your kids Science, or somebody else will :/ ja...@ball.net vk2...@google.com vk2f...@google.com callsign: vk2vjb ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] New wrist watch
I did much the same thing, but settled on the Seiko astron due to the lack of LF time sync in Sydney. GPS for the win and satisfying the closet horologist in me. J On 7 Jul 2015 3:22 pm, D W watsondani...@gmail.com wrote: With my new found interest in time nuttiness I thought I should upgrade to a decently accurate watch. I had some features I was looking for and settled on a Casio Wave Ceptor. My second choice was an Eco Drive, but the Casio had the right mix of features at a good price. As I was sitting outside reading the manual after buying it, I laid it flat on the table and started a manual sync to WWVB. The UI is pretty intuitive for having so few buttons and indicators. It quickly told me that it had found a stable signal, and about six minutes later it was synced. Pretty cool. Anyone know what the drift is like in this watch if it can't find the signal for several days/weeks? I would hope that actual performance is a little better than the +/- 15 sec per month stated in the manual. I should trap it in a faraday bag for a while to test it... Dan ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Time in a cave
If you don't require an accurate external sync (GPS), one options is to use solarflare 10GB NIC's with the high resolution clock on board, using this clock to govern the PC clock.Running PTP through this can yield +-250ns synchronisation between the nodes due to the hardware implementation for the PTP stack and does support external sync to a GPS PTP signal if available. I have no association with the company, but I like the product. http://www.solarflare.com/Precision-Time-Synchronization-PTP J. On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Tucek, Joseph joseph.tu...@hp.com wrote: I'm looking for information on non-GPS time sources. For background, I need to provide PTP to a cluster where we don't have line of sight to the sky, and are unlikely to get roof-rights without a fight. There are CDMA solutions that would work (e.g. Endrun Technologies), but I was wondering if there were any other options. I either need an indoor capable PTP, or an indoor capable PPS. Microsemi claims to have an indoor capable GNSS system, but I've yet to find a sales rep to talk about it; if anyone has a link to one who can, I'd love to find out the problems^W^W^W^W talk to them about it. For an example of something that almost but doesn't quite work, Beagle Software has a CDMA NTP server, but they do neither PTP nor PPS in the CDMA version. Similarly, Meinberg will sell a PTP unit that freeruns (if you override the config), but they have no solution to discipline via CDMA. I'm also curious if anyone has any idea about non-GPS time sync after CDMA gets turned off (can I get time from 4G?). My endgame worst case is to just do PPS from a stratum 2 NTP (or even a freerunning oscillator) and lie to my PTP server; hard sync to UTC is a secondary concern so long as the cluster agrees with itself. Endrun is looking pretty good, but I'd really like to have a second option to compare against. -Joe ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- -- Teach your kids Science, or somebody else will :/ ja...@ball.net vk2...@google.com vk2f...@google.com callsign: vk2vjb ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] Hi all
I should drop an email rather than just lurking on this extremely interesting list. I'm in the process of building my first GPSDO, so I have lots to learn and am enjoying the education. This list has been a real eye opener for me. I'm a licensed amateur radio operator looking to move up into the microwave bands, and I spend a lot of time repairing old radio kit for reuse by other operators. As such an accurate time reference is important, hence this project. So far I've based everything on a number of published sites and designs to learn the basics before launching into something more adventurous and am building a simple PLL locked OCXO using a Navman Jupiter Tu60 GPS and an IsoTemp OCXO. Together these will exceed the limitations of my equipment in measurement, so I'll probably have to build a second one for comparison on the DSO or look into other measurement methods to validate the results. Lots to learn... -- -- Teach your kids Science, or somebody else will :/ ja...@ball.net vk2...@google.com callsign: vk2vjb ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Oscilloquartz 3210 Cesium Standard
Replacing the caps could have increased voltages and exposed a fault that caused the caps to fail... As always step 1 - check voltages/regulators. Remove bridging components (diodes, power resistors) if necessary to stop the smoke and trace the circuit as any number of components could have gone open circuit. Double check your soldering just in case there is an accidental bridge in there. Good luck. Cheers J. On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Pete Lancashire p...@petelancashire.com wrote: If not check for shorted diodes. -pete On Sep 8, 2014 2:43 PM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote: Adrian please copy me on the pictures also. Whats odd is the caps were bulging. You replaced them and now things are smoking. Might one have been put in backwards? Regards Paul. WB8TSL On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Adrian Constantinescu adrian.valentin.constantine...@gmail.com wrote: Bert Kehren via time-nuts time-nuts@... writes: or send it off list if you can not compress it. Bert Thank you for your quick reply, i will take some pictures in the morning and post them. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- -- Teach your kids Science, or somebody else will :/ ja...@ball.net vk2...@google.com vk2f...@google.com callsign: vk2vjb ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Poor Mans TIC (Using Beaglebone onboard PRU)
This is interesting. Im in the process of building my first GPSDO, it would be interesting to use the PRU to monitor and validate that device, obviously to the limit of the PRU's accuracy. I have several BBB's sitting here waiting for a project. On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 7:14 AM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote: Ian Thank you On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Iain Young i...@g7iii.net wrote: Hey Paul, Grab the tarball, it contains each of the other files in that directory. And yes, the README tells you what you need to do. Note you will need the PRUSS compiler end probably the AM335x PRU Package to compile. Google for it, or grab this one via git: https://github.com/rjw245/am335x_pru_package/ [Not mine, but used the inputtest example as a base]. Dump the files in the inputtest directory (or create a new one at the same level), then do the pasm and make stuff. To get started quickly, tic_ab_dualpru, tic_ab_pru0.bin, and tic_ab_pru1.bin, and just run tic_ab_dualpru. This will work on a BBW. I am currently playing with it on the BBB, and have discovered I can go to 10ns resolution, but the code needs adjusting (seems the PRUs might be running at a different speed to the BBW, I need to investigate!) I also still have the 10-11uS issue mentioned below, but I am unconvinced I have the pin-mux settings quite right yet (I think they are being passed back through the SOC-fabric, thus slowing things down!) I'll probably post an update over the weekend (not had chance to play all week due to work commitments) Iain On 05/09/14 20:09, paul swed wrote: Ian what files are needed? Forgive me if its in the read me. Thanks On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 2:56 PM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote: Ian Have not downloaded the info yet. But I was surprised by the fact you were using LORAN sooo you must be in Europe. Lucky you to have such a fine signal. Great job on the tic. Now to go download the bits. Thanks again. Regards Paul. On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 10:26 PM, Tom Van Baak t...@leapsecond.com wrote: Hi Iain, Thanks very much for posting, and for sharing the code. I know many of us are interested in how well modern CPU's or SBC's can be used as time interval, time stamping, and frequency counting instruments. I know the BB PRU's have been mentioned before on the list but it's really nice to see actual code and test results. About the hp 5370 -- realize that these are still 1000x more precise (on the order of tens of ps) than what a BB/PRU is capable of (on the order of tens of ns). But as you observe, they key point is -- for mid- to long-term measurement of free-running time/frequency standards you do not necessarily need ps-level measurement capability. Nanosecond, or even microsecond time resolution is more than enough to create comprehensive plots of time and frequency drift over the long-term. Again, thanks. /tvb - Original Message - From: Iain Young i...@g7iii.net To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 1:24 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Poor Mans TIC (Using Beaglebone onboard PRU) Hi Folks, As much as we all love our HP 5370B's, they are a tad expensive if you want to monitor several PPS sources long term to ensure they are all closely syncronised. In my case, I have three Austron 2100 LORAN receivers and a HP Z3816A GPS receiver. I wanted to be able to compare each of their PPS outputs with the PPS output of the Z3816A, as well as each other. Clearly, multiple 5370's would have been too expensive, not just for initial outlay, but also ongoing electrical costs would not be helped! However, the Beaglebone (Both White and Black variants) have two PRUs. These are real-time units, with clocks that run at 200 MHz, and most instructions complete in 1 clock cycle (5ns) So, I decided to write a TIC in the PRU Assembler to scratch my particular itch. The current code waits for the A clock to go high, and then counts until B goes high, resets it's counters, and waits for A to go high again. It also keeps track of a sequence number for sanity's sake, and onward processing. Since the Beaglebone's have two PRUs, I have written the code to run on both at the same time, and use different GPIO pins, so you can compare up two sets of two clocks, or two clocks with a common reference. Pins are documented in README.txt Now, it's resolution is 20ns. However, it gets confused if the two pulses are less than around 10-11uS apart. I -think- this is when it sends the data back to the host processor via shared RAM. In my case, this is not an issue, as I can just slew the PPS from the Austron's (or even use the Fixed PPS), but if you wanted to compare two GPS receivers, then that would be an issue.
Re: [time-nuts] Ublox neo-7M GPS
I have a dozen ublox max-7's on hand and should have suitable PCB's for the analysis in a couple of days. Unfortunately I don't have the analyser, the test kit is currently limited to a HP5834A recently calibrated to Rb and a 100MHz DSO so probably not what your looking for. Let me know if I can help though. On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Ed Palmer ed_pal...@sasktel.net wrote: Does anyone have a neo-7M and an HP 5371A or a 5372A Analyzer? Use the Histogram Time Interval function to measure a block of samples. That will show the length of the samples with a resolution of 200 ps. That's what I did a couple of years ago when I analyzed the Navsync CW-12 with the old and new firmware. -- -- Teach your kids Science, or somebody else will :/ ja...@ball.net vk2...@google.com callsign: vk2vjb ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.