Re: [time-nuts] fast switching quiet synthesizer

2014-10-08 Thread br...@ko4bb.com
Although the DDS settles rapidly there some filter settling time is required. These systems are combinations of DDS and direct synthesis with microsecond or sub microsecond settling. Bruce. On October 8, 2014 at 3:52 AM Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: br...@ko4bb.com said

Re: [time-nuts] fast switching quiet synthesizer

2014-10-07 Thread br...@ko4bb.com
Kratos (www.kratosepd.com) do fast switching synthesiser subsystems that can be locked to a reference.. Aeroflex (www.aeroflex.com/ASCS) do 250ns settling time synthesisers. Bruce On October 7, 2014 at 7:52 PM Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: On 10/7/14, 1:19 PM, Don Latham wrote: I

Re: [time-nuts] fast switching quiet synthesizer

2014-10-07 Thread br...@ko4bb.com
http://gmcatalog.kratosepd.com/index.cfm?act=prodsforgroupgrp=45 http://ams.aeroflex.com/ASCS/micro-ASCS-prods-synthesizers.cfm are the relevant webpages Bruce On October 7, 2014 at 11:06 PM br...@ko4bb.com br...@ko4bb.com wrote: Kratos (www.kratosepd.com) do fast switching synthesiser

Re: [time-nuts] Low noise powersupplies

2014-08-07 Thread br...@ko4bb.com
I have a couple of these. however their noise spectral density tends to rise precipitously below 1Hz or so. There are regulators with significantly lower flicker noise. Bruce On August 7, 2014 at 6:35 AM Tom Van Baak t...@leapsecond.com wrote: Ole, Thanks for bringing it to our

[time-nuts] Sine to square wave converter Phase Noise

2014-07-29 Thread br...@ko4bb.com
Recently I have been comparing the phase noise of the HOlzworth HX4210 and the LTC7957-4. I have found that the performance of these devices is comparable with a 10MHz sinewave input with a PN noise floor below -160dBc/Hz. For offsets below 100Hz the LTC6957-4 is quieter and for offsets below 50Hz

Re: [time-nuts] Sine to square wave converter Phase Noise

2014-07-29 Thread br...@ko4bb.com
On 07/29/2014 10:55 AM, br...@ko4bb.com wrote: Recently I have been comparing the phase noise of the HOlzworth HX4210 and the LTC7957-4. I have found that the performance of these devices is comparable with a 10MHz sinewave input with a PN noise floor below -160dBc/Hz. For offsets

Re: [time-nuts] Sine to square wave converter Phase Noise

2014-07-29 Thread br...@ko4bb.com
However that will increase the signal transition times to significanly greater than the 300ps seen at the LTC6957 output. Bruce On July 29, 2014 at 7:54 AM Gerhard Hoffmann dk...@arcor.de wrote: Am 29.07.2014 um 13:38 schrieb David C. Partridge: Further to my previous post: I note that

Re: [time-nuts] Sine to square wave converter Phase Noise

2014-07-29 Thread br...@ko4bb.com
-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of br...@ko4bb.com Sent: 29 July 2014 12:00 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Sine to square wave converter Phase Noise Sorry, I meant the LTC6957-4 of course._SELA = l FILTA = L FILTB = H ie an input stage BW

Re: [time-nuts] sine to square wave converter

2014-07-11 Thread br...@ko4bb.com
The Achilles heel of that biasing technique is that the emitter currents of the pair of pnp's is affected by the noise on the 20V supply. The 20V supply noise is only attenuated by a factor of 5 or so when both transistors have equal collector currents. I have both an LTC evaluation board for the

Re: [time-nuts] sine to square wave converter

2014-07-10 Thread br...@ko4bb.com
On July 10, 2014 at 10:55 AM ewkeh...@aol.com wrote: As part of the FE 405 B project a separate output circuit is in the works. The universal controller and auxiliary board are the same as used in the FE5680A GPSDO but because of the very low ADEV a separate circuit board that divides by

Re: [time-nuts] Sad news Ulrich Bangert

2014-06-23 Thread br...@ko4bb.com
Sadly Ina was terminally ill and died in May 2012. Ulrich kept this to himself until about six months later in an email explaining why he had been out of touch. In respect for Ulrich's wishes I kept this news off the list. Ulrich's Obituary indicates that one parent, his in-laws and siblings as

[time-nuts] Over optimistic PN measurements

2014-05-27 Thread br...@ko4bb.com
There has been some controversy over the Phase noise of CMOS logic devices. Perhaps the apparently anomalously low PN measures are due to the use of cross correlation in the phase noise measurement equipment and the occurrence of phenomena detailed in the recent NIST papers: