Re: [time-nuts] Freq cal to 1ppm without GPSDO

2011-02-17 Thread Hal Murray
Thanks to you and the others for your replies. After some more HF reception problems here, I have come to the same conclusion as you. I found an Oncore M12+ timing GPS is available pretty cheap from Hong Kong, so that's my plan. Years ago, I remember smiling when I figured out that I could

Re: [time-nuts] Freq cal to 1ppm without GPSDO

2011-02-17 Thread WB6BNQ
John, Besides the M12 receiver you will need an interface board to provide a 3.3 volt regulator for the M12, a 5 volt regulator and some 74c04's or some such to provide the 1pps interface and drive levels to a MAX232 chip for a RS232 interface. Then you will need to build up the Brooke Shera

Re: [time-nuts] Freq cal to 1ppm without GPSDO

2011-02-17 Thread WB6BNQ
John, One other thing I forgot to touch on. The 1pps signal out of the a GPS receiver is very jittery. For your TCXO it will be good enough except for you having to stare at the scope while comparing the GPS to your TCXO. Any oscillator of higher quality will be a problem when just using the

Re: [time-nuts] Freq cal to 1ppm without GPSDO

2011-02-17 Thread Chris Albertson
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 11:43 PM, David J Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Would you count these as nearer a working system?  Only needs USB power, and includes the antenna and cable.  http://www.sureelectronics.net/goods.php?id=99 I'm still waiting for mine to arrive. The

Re: [time-nuts] Freq cal to 1ppm without GPSDO

2011-02-17 Thread Bob Camp
] On Behalf Of John Beale Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:10 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Freq cal to 1ppm without GPSDO Hi Murray, Thanks to you and the others for your replies. After some more HF reception problems here, I have come to the same conclusion as you. I found

[time-nuts] Freq cal to 1ppm without GPSDO

2011-02-16 Thread Murray Greenman
John, I've had quite a bit of experience doing what you want to do, and have tried several methods. TV used to be a good way, but now that everything's gone digital that method is out. Despite advice to the contrary, comparing with WWV or similar on HF is NOT reliable to 1ppm. This is because

Re: [time-nuts] Freq cal to 1ppm without GPSDO

2011-02-16 Thread John Beale
Hi Murray, Thanks to you and the others for your replies. After some more HF reception problems here, I have come to the same conclusion as you. I found an Oncore M12+ timing GPS is available pretty cheap from Hong Kong, so that's my plan. best regards, John Beale 1. My best advice is to

Re: [time-nuts] Freq cal to 1ppm without GPSDO

2011-02-16 Thread Chris Albertson
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:09 PM, John Beale be...@bealecorner.com wrote: Hi Murray, Thanks to you and the others for your replies. After some more HF reception problems here, I have come to the same conclusion as you. I found an Oncore M12+ timing GPS is available pretty cheap from Hong

Re: [time-nuts] Freq cal to 1ppm without GPSDO

2011-02-16 Thread David J Taylor
Yes they sell for about $35 on EB. But you will need to build a support/interface for it. Yo will need some voltage regulators, a 74*04 inverter (the RS232 standard has DCD non-inverted but inverts data) TTL to RS232 level converters, 10-pin female headers and other misc parts. And a GPS