Re: [time-nuts] Frequency generator and counter on same external reference

2012-12-08 Thread Chris Wilson


 Two rules to follow.  1 - use well shielded cables for the 10 MHz 
 distribution
 if you wish to receive WWV 10 off the air.  The skinny cables used for
 Ethernet
 generally don't cut it.

 2.  Most instruments have a high impedance 10 MHz input.  Put them in 
 the middle
 with T connectors left over from your 10 base T days.  If you have an 
 instrument
 that terminates the 10 MHz input, it goes last.  Otherwise use a 
 terminator at the
 end.

 I have an Advantest spectrum analyzer,  HP selective level meter, 
 Racal-Dana counter,
 Flexradio 1500, and Gigatronics generator daisy chained from a 
 Thunderbolt.  Plenty
 of signal, and the fat (well shielded) cables let me listen to WWV.



08/12/2012 11:30


Thanks for that Chuck, appreciated.


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[time-nuts] Frequency generator and counter on same external reference?

2012-11-29 Thread Chris Wilson


  29/11/2012 09:40

I don't think this is an issue, but thought it best to ask. I am
repairing an 18GHz counter and it has a 10MHz external reference port.
So does my elderly Marconi 2019A sig gen. Is there any potential issue
having them both referenced off my Thunderbolt GPS referenced
standard, at the same time?

Thanks.

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Re: [time-nuts] Frequency generator and counter on same external reference

2012-11-29 Thread Tom Clifton
Good heavens, no.  By doing so, they both have the same reference and the 
measuremets actually means something. I have a stack of HP stuff (3586, 3386 
and assorted counters) all T'd off my Tbolt without issue.  The only caveat is 
that you don't put too much stuff across the T-bolt output so as to load it 
down to the point where some device can't get clocking. Before you hit that 
point, you may need a high quality (low jitter) distribution amp in the timing 
chain.  

Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 09:42:39 +
From: Chris Wilson
 Subject: [time-nuts] Frequency generator and counter on same 
external reference?
 I am  repairing an 18GHz counter and it has a 10MHz external reference 
port. So does my elderly Marconi 2019A sig gen. Is there any potential 
issue having them both referenced off my Thunderbolt GPS referenced standard, 
at the same time?
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Re: [time-nuts] Frequency generator and counter on same external reference

2012-11-29 Thread Chris Wilson


 Good heavens, no.  By doing so, they both have the same reference
 and the measuremets actually means something. I have a stack of HP
 stuff (3586, 3386 and assorted counters) all T'd off my Tbolt
 without issue.  The only caveat is that you don't put too much stuff
 across the T-bolt output so as to load it down to the point where
 some device can't get clocking. Before you hit that point, you may
 need a high quality (low jitter) distribution amp in the timing chain.  



29/11/2012 15:44

I thought it would be fine, but thought and know can be poles apart at
my level of knowledge :) Thanks for that.



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Re: [time-nuts] Frequency generator and counter on same external reference

2012-11-29 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
Two rules to follow.  1 - use well shielded cables for the 10 MHz 
distribution
if you wish to receive WWV 10 off the air.  The skinny cables used for 
Ethernet

generally don't cut it.

2.  Most instruments have a high impedance 10 MHz input.  Put them in 
the middle
with T connectors left over from your 10 base T days.  If you have an 
instrument
that terminates the 10 MHz input, it goes last.  Otherwise use a 
terminator at the

end.

I have an Advantest spectrum analyzer,  HP selective level meter, 
Racal-Dana counter,
Flexradio 1500, and Gigatronics generator daisy chained from a 
Thunderbolt.  Plenty

of signal, and the fat (well shielded) cables let me listen to WWV.

On 11/29/2012 07:01 AM, Tom Clifton wrote:

Good heavens, no.  By doing so, they both have the same reference and the 
measuremets actually means something. I have a stack of HP stuff (3586, 3386 
and assorted counters) all T'd off my Tbolt without issue.  The only caveat is 
that you don't put too much stuff across the T-bolt output so as to load it 
down to the point where some device can't get clocking. Before you hit that 
point, you may need a high quality (low jitter) distribution amp in the timing 
chain.

Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 09:42:39 +
From: Chris Wilson
  Subject: [time-nuts] Frequency generator and counter on same external 
reference?
  I am  repairing an 18GHz counter and it has a 10MHz external reference port. 
So does my elderly Marconi 2019A sig gen. Is there any potential issue having 
them both referenced off my Thunderbolt GPS referenced standard, at the same 
time?
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Re: [time-nuts] Frequency generator and counter on same external reference

2012-11-29 Thread Tom Clifton
Kind of funny you bring that up.  I have an old Fluke 1900A counter (plastic 
case) that radiates 10mhz clock that deafens my receiver.  It only took me a 
week  to find the intermittent source of interference  Boy, did I feel 
stupid...

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Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 08:45:04 -0800
From: Chuck Forsberg
Subject: Re: Frequency generator and counter on same external reference

Two rules to follow.  1 - use well shielded cables for the 10 MHz distribution 
if you wish to receive WWV 10 off the air ...
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