Re: [time-nuts] WWVB remod instant cheap clock receiver

2014-07-13 Thread paul swed
I figured there were other modules. Glad to see wallymart has them also.
Over payed? The costyco comes in a multi color display with temp and
humidity.
But then again its the module after all.
How big is the loopstick and did you confirm the wiring?
Regards
Paul.
WB8TSL


On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 1:32 AM, Paul Davis 
ziggy9+time-n...@pumpkinbrook.com wrote:

 Paul -

 You over paid ;)
 Neither one is going to break the bank, but I found the Westclox Model
 72006 'Atomic LCD Alarm Clock' $10.97 at Walmart. Similar module inside.

 Paul


 On Jul 11, 2014, at 12:55 PM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Intended to add the model number.
 Cosco only has one type a c89201


 On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Pete Lancashire p...@petelancashire.com
 
 wrote:

  Do you have a model number or can you send me a picture ?
 
  Have to do a Costco run this weekend
 
  -pete
 
  On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 9:16 AM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote:
  OK its been a bit hard finding the little wwvb receiver kits the last
 few
  years.
  While in costco for sub $18 Lacrosse sells a multi color LCD clock.
  Wel you just know what happened next.
 
  The clock as a wwvb receiver works great however if you read the reviews
  there is a issue with the battery backup.
  It doesn't work. Mine does so who knows and I don't really care.
 
  There is a clock module in the unit and it works nicely. See attached
 pix
  V = 3V in
  P2 = control ground=on
  T = data high=low carrier compatible with the remod as is no inverter
  needed.
  G = ground
 
  To get inside to recover the module.
  Remove the glass screen its stuck on. Gently pry off.
  There are 4 screws one in each corner.
  You could simply tap the module out and use it or feed the data back
 into
  the clock. Lots of options.
  But my only goal is a source of clock modules for time-nuts that does
 not
  require a microscope to solder.
 
  By keeping the loopstick you can wrap 10 turns of wire around the end
 and
  feed a larger active antenna to it as a tuned stage.
  Regards
  Paul
  WB8TSL
 
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Re: [time-nuts] WWVB remod instant cheap clock receiver

2014-07-13 Thread Paul Davis
The real point was just to mention another source - j/k about the price ;)  
Lots of Wally World around so maybe easier to find than Costco. I embedded a 
picture which I hope will appear. The loopstick is about 7mm diameter and 6cm 
long. It is attached to a small circuit board which is marked RC8000 V1. Don't 
know if there is a CM8000 chip under the black blob, but could well be. Top to 
bottom as mounted in the clock the connections are labeled on the clock board 
as:

1 - PON (Power ON - active low)
2 - TCO (Time Code Out - idles low in standby)
3 - gnd
4 - vdd (3V from battery) - probably 3.3v OK.

Verified those with 'scope. Slightly different pinout but similar signals.


Paul
---

On Jul 13, 2014, at 10:41 AM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote:

I figured there were other modules. Glad to see wallymart has them also.
Over payed? The costyco comes in a multi color display with temp and
humidity.
But then again its the module after all.
How big is the loopstick and did you confirm the wiring?
Regards
Paul.
WB8TSL


On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 1:32 AM, Paul Davis 
ziggy9+time-n...@pumpkinbrook.com wrote:

 Paul -
 
 You over paid ;)
 Neither one is going to break the bank, but I found the Westclox Model
 72006 'Atomic LCD Alarm Clock' $10.97 at Walmart. Similar module inside.
 
 Paul
 
 
 On Jul 11, 2014, at 12:55 PM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Intended to add the model number.
 Cosco only has one type a c89201
 
 
 On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Pete Lancashire p...@petelancashire.com
 
 wrote:
 
 Do you have a model number or can you send me a picture ?
 
 Have to do a Costco run this weekend
 
 -pete
 
 On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 9:16 AM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote:
 OK its been a bit hard finding the little wwvb receiver kits the last
 few
 years.
 While in costco for sub $18 Lacrosse sells a multi color LCD clock.
 Wel you just know what happened next.
 
 The clock as a wwvb receiver works great however if you read the reviews
 there is a issue with the battery backup.
 It doesn't work. Mine does so who knows and I don't really care.
 
 There is a clock module in the unit and it works nicely. See attached
 pix
 V = 3V in
 P2 = control ground=on
 T = data high=low carrier compatible with the remod as is no inverter
 needed.
 G = ground
 
 To get inside to recover the module.
 Remove the glass screen its stuck on. Gently pry off.
 There are 4 screws one in each corner.
 You could simply tap the module out and use it or feed the data back
 into
 the clock. Lots of options.
 But my only goal is a source of clock modules for time-nuts that does
 not
 require a microscope to solder.
 
 By keeping the loopstick you can wrap 10 turns of wire around the end
 and
 feed a larger active antenna to it as a tuned stage.
 Regards
 Paul
 WB8TSL
 

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Re: [time-nuts] WWVB remod instant cheap clock receiver

2014-07-13 Thread Paul Davis

Since the 87kb picture was completely stripped out of my prior reply, here's a 
link to a pic:
http://www.pumpkinbrook.com/files/Module1.jpg

Paul
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Re: [time-nuts] WWVB remod instant cheap clock receiver

2014-07-13 Thread paul swed
Paul the pix came through and yes another nice module and as you say at
wally world and there are lots of those.
The only guess is the data out or time code. They come both ways. That is
as the remodulator is designed a low carrier -14 db at the tick represents
a high logic.

There is a spare inverter in the remod and actually 2 so the signal can be
inverted if needed.
The way to tell polarity is there will be a consistent 1 hz pulse that
aligns to wwv's tick. That way you can tell the polarity. Or just try
inverting if the signal does not work.

I like these modules sure beats the 2 different SMTs I had to solder and at
$10 cheap.
Regards
Paul.
WB8TSL


On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Paul Davis 
ziggy9+time-n...@pumpkinbrook.com wrote:


 Since the 87kb picture was completely stripped out of my prior reply,
 here's a link to a pic:
 http://www.pumpkinbrook.com/files/Module1.jpg

 Paul
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Re: [time-nuts] WWVB remod instant cheap clock receiver

2014-07-12 Thread Paul Davis
Paul -

You over paid ;)
Neither one is going to break the bank, but I found the Westclox Model 72006 
'Atomic LCD Alarm Clock' $10.97 at Walmart. Similar module inside. 

Paul


On Jul 11, 2014, at 12:55 PM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote:

Intended to add the model number.
Cosco only has one type a c89201


On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Pete Lancashire p...@petelancashire.com
wrote:

 Do you have a model number or can you send me a picture ?
 
 Have to do a Costco run this weekend
 
 -pete
 
 On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 9:16 AM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote:
 OK its been a bit hard finding the little wwvb receiver kits the last few
 years.
 While in costco for sub $18 Lacrosse sells a multi color LCD clock.
 Wel you just know what happened next.
 
 The clock as a wwvb receiver works great however if you read the reviews
 there is a issue with the battery backup.
 It doesn't work. Mine does so who knows and I don't really care.
 
 There is a clock module in the unit and it works nicely. See attached pix
 V = 3V in
 P2 = control ground=on
 T = data high=low carrier compatible with the remod as is no inverter
 needed.
 G = ground
 
 To get inside to recover the module.
 Remove the glass screen its stuck on. Gently pry off.
 There are 4 screws one in each corner.
 You could simply tap the module out and use it or feed the data back into
 the clock. Lots of options.
 But my only goal is a source of clock modules for time-nuts that does not
 require a microscope to solder.
 
 By keeping the loopstick you can wrap 10 turns of wire around the end and
 feed a larger active antenna to it as a tuned stage.
 Regards
 Paul
 WB8TSL
 
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Re: [time-nuts] WWVB remod instant cheap clock receiver

2014-07-11 Thread Pete Lancashire
Do you have a model number or can you send me a picture ?

Have to do a Costco run this weekend

-pete

On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 9:16 AM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote:
 OK its been a bit hard finding the little wwvb receiver kits the last few
 years.
 While in costco for sub $18 Lacrosse sells a multi color LCD clock.
 Wel you just know what happened next.

 The clock as a wwvb receiver works great however if you read the reviews
 there is a issue with the battery backup.
 It doesn't work. Mine does so who knows and I don't really care.

 There is a clock module in the unit and it works nicely. See attached pix
 V = 3V in
 P2 = control ground=on
 T = data high=low carrier compatible with the remod as is no inverter
 needed.
 G = ground

 To get inside to recover the module.
 Remove the glass screen its stuck on. Gently pry off.
 There are 4 screws one in each corner.
 You could simply tap the module out and use it or feed the data back into
 the clock. Lots of options.
 But my only goal is a source of clock modules for time-nuts that does not
 require a microscope to solder.

 By keeping the loopstick you can wrap 10 turns of wire around the end and
 feed a larger active antenna to it as a tuned stage.
 Regards
 Paul
 WB8TSL

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Re: [time-nuts] WWVB remod instant cheap clock receiver

2014-07-11 Thread paul swed
Intended to add the model number.
Cosco only has one type a c89201


On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Pete Lancashire p...@petelancashire.com
wrote:

 Do you have a model number or can you send me a picture ?

 Have to do a Costco run this weekend

 -pete

 On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 9:16 AM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote:
  OK its been a bit hard finding the little wwvb receiver kits the last few
  years.
  While in costco for sub $18 Lacrosse sells a multi color LCD clock.
  Wel you just know what happened next.
 
  The clock as a wwvb receiver works great however if you read the reviews
  there is a issue with the battery backup.
  It doesn't work. Mine does so who knows and I don't really care.
 
  There is a clock module in the unit and it works nicely. See attached pix
  V = 3V in
  P2 = control ground=on
  T = data high=low carrier compatible with the remod as is no inverter
  needed.
  G = ground
 
  To get inside to recover the module.
  Remove the glass screen its stuck on. Gently pry off.
  There are 4 screws one in each corner.
  You could simply tap the module out and use it or feed the data back into
  the clock. Lots of options.
  But my only goal is a source of clock modules for time-nuts that does not
  require a microscope to solder.
 
  By keeping the loopstick you can wrap 10 turns of wire around the end and
  feed a larger active antenna to it as a tuned stage.
  Regards
  Paul
  WB8TSL
 
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