Re: [time-nuts] single board PCs

2013-01-07 Thread Bob Camp
HI Well if you are getting it done in seconds on Matlab, then you likely don't need Matlab very badly. Around here a typical Matlab setup is indeed CPU bound for a *lot* longer than that during a normal work day. Two or three hours a day is not at all unusual. Bob On Jan 6, 2013, at 11:21

Re: [time-nuts] single board PCs

2013-01-07 Thread Jim Lux
On 1/6/13 8:56 PM, gary wrote: There is an open source equivalent of Matlab called Octave. Yes..we use it too, and for anyone who uses Matlab, Octave is nice to have as well. For instance, we have a centralized license server for Matlab, and if you're incommunicado, you're stuck, but with

Re: [time-nuts] single board PCs

2013-01-07 Thread Robert LaJeunesse
their own code as they choose on the Windows PC. Works for us. Bob LaJeunesse - Original Message From: Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sun, January 6, 2013 7:26:46 PM Subject: [time-nuts] single board PCs

Re: [time-nuts] single board PCs

2013-01-07 Thread Jim Lux
On 1/6/13 9:26 PM, Hal Murray wrote: jim...@earthlink.net said: Precisely.. but I'd just as soon not be in the PC integration business, finding boards to plug into a mobo, etc. I was wondering what folks have used (or seen used) in this sort of usage model. Google for embedded PC and/or

Re: [time-nuts] single board PCs

2013-01-07 Thread Alberto di Bene
On 1/7/2013 1:25 AM, Jim Lux wrote: If you're building a standalone widget (e.g. something like an NTP server we've been discussing, etc.) with an embedded PC, don't want to fool with hardware designing, etc.; use off the shelf OSes (win and Linux) and software (Matlab, Labview); have solid

Re: [time-nuts] single board PCs

2013-01-07 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 06:11:59 -0800 Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: It's sort of the upscale version of the Arduino, PIC, MSP430 thing. I'm looking for a building block that I can just drop in, hook up, and not worry too much about. If you don't mind to be stuck on linux and *bsd, i

Re: [time-nuts] single board PCs

2013-01-07 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:40:00 +0100 Alberto di Bene dib...@usa.net wrote: I haven't used this, but from the specs it looks interesting ... [1]http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php?g_code =G135235611947 73 Alberto I2PHD I hear a lot of talk about those

Re: [time-nuts] single board PCs

2013-01-07 Thread cfo
On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 16:25:59 -0800, Jim Lux wrote: Consulting the hive mind.. If you're building a standalone widget (e.g. something like an NTP server we've been discussing, etc.) with an embedded PC, don't want to fool with hardware designing, etc.; use off the shelf OSes (win and Linux)

Re: [time-nuts] single board PCs

2013-01-07 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 16:41:06 +0100 Attila Kinali att...@kinali.ch wrote: Eg. you can also try the OlinuXino from Olimex, which are damn cheap. (and unlike the Raspberry Pi they are completely documented and you don't need any binary only drivers). I haven't tried any of those yet (didn't have

Re: [time-nuts] single board PCs

2013-01-06 Thread Chris Albertson
There is not hottest ticket. It depends on what you need. The TI launch pad is less then $5 shipped which makes it really popular. If you need loots of compute power and have an $85 budget and can stand a 9 square PCB buy an Intel Atom motherboard it comes with dual core Atom CPU soldered down

Re: [time-nuts] single board PCs

2013-01-06 Thread gary
This might be a good place to start looking. http://beagleboard.org/project/BeagleTick/ I got a beagleboard mx, but it is for a different project. I'm not up to speed on it enough to comment if this is the best solution. I can tell you the hardware design and more importantly the

Re: [time-nuts] single board PCs

2013-01-06 Thread Jim Lux
On 1/6/13 5:43 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: There is not hottest ticket. It depends on what you need. The TI launch pad is less then $5 shipped which makes it really popular. Somehow I suspect the MSP430 launchpad won't run windows/Linux and Matlab, eh? If you need loots of compute power

Re: [time-nuts] single board PCs

2013-01-06 Thread Jim Lux
On 1/6/13 5:52 PM, gary wrote: This might be a good place to start looking. http://beagleboard.org/project/BeagleTick/ I got a beagleboard mx, but it is for a different project. I'm not up to speed on it enough to comment if this is the best solution. I can tell you the hardware design and

Re: [time-nuts] single board PCs

2013-01-06 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Ummm, er you want to run Matlab and you are likely paying $100 an hour to whom ever is waiting on the machine. My *guess* is that a micro board of what ever flavor will do an arbitrary Matlab run in maybe 30 days. That same run would take something large about 30 minutes. That of course

Re: [time-nuts] single board PCs

2013-01-06 Thread jim s
On 1/6/2013 5:59 PM, Jim Lux wrote: On 1/6/13 5:52 PM, gary wrote: This might be a good place to start looking. http://beagleboard.org/project/BeagleTick/ I got a beagleboard mx, but it is for a different project. I'm not up to speed on it enough to comment if this is the best solution. I

Re: [time-nuts] single board PCs

2013-01-06 Thread gary
You pay quite a premium for a Supermicro mobo over say an Asus, which is the atom D525 mobo I am using. [Supermicro didn't have one at the time.] The newer atoms address more RAM. But if you are going to run Matlab, you might want to consider the low power Xeon CPUs. Yes, that sounds nuts on

Re: [time-nuts] single board PCs

2013-01-06 Thread Hal Murray
jim...@earthlink.net said: What's the hot ticket these days.. One of the CarPC things (most are a miniITX/miniATX with a USB or SD disk drive). (This is what I used last time) I think you need to figure out how much horsepower you want/need and/or how much cooling you can afford. Much of

Re: [time-nuts] single board PCs

2013-01-06 Thread Nathaniel Bezanson
Jim Lux wrote: the remote device isn't working well. With IMPI, you can actually mess with the bios. Supposedly it ls like really being there. Thanks, I'll take a look.. The ability to poke at the device remotely at a very low level is quite useful (e.g. if it's unattended). Pretty

Re: [time-nuts] single board PCs

2013-01-06 Thread Jim Lux
On 1/6/13 6:09 PM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi Ummm, er you want to run Matlab and you are likely paying $100 an hour to whom ever is waiting on the machine. My *guess* is that a micro board of what ever flavor will do an arbitrary Matlab run in maybe 30 days. Yes. But any of a zillion PC clones

Re: [time-nuts] single board PCs

2013-01-06 Thread gary
There is an open source equivalent of Matlab called Octave. If you are doing data acquisition, GPIB linux is kind of ugly. But if you are doing computation, Octave might be suitable. http://octave.1599824.n4.nabble.com/Octave-instrument-control-option-td4630948.html Like MS Office versus

Re: [time-nuts] single board PCs

2013-01-06 Thread Hal Murray
jim...@earthlink.net said: Precisely.. but I'd just as soon not be in the PC integration business, finding boards to plug into a mobo, etc. I was wondering what folks have used (or seen used) in this sort of usage model. Google for embedded PC and/or mini-ITX. There are lots of them out

Re: [time-nuts] single board PCs

2013-01-06 Thread Robert Atkinson
: Re: [time-nuts] single board PCs On 1/6/13 6:09 PM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi Ummm, er you want to run Matlab and you are likely paying $100 an hour to whom ever is waiting on the machine. My *guess* is that a micro board of what ever flavor will do an arbitrary Matlab run in maybe 30 days