Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C Reception on Cape Cod

[Bob Camp]

Hi

Unless they picked it up and moved it, Dana is in Indiana not Illinois :)...

Bob

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Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 10:45 AM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: [time-nuts] LORAN-C Reception on Cape Cod

Hello The Net: (especially the LORAN-C listeners)

Right now my SRS FS700 Loran-C receiver is locked onto a signal.

GRI 89700 microseconds   station: AUTO (M)
location: DANA, IL  USA

Receiver locked
Tracking Loran-C signal

Receiver gain: 77dB
Noise margin:  39 dB

Loran Freq offset:  -1.1E-10
Phase: -17.9 deg

Stations found: (ident: Amp in dB)
M59*   X56

Time since lock:   0:21:40  ( had lock overnight, but with an error so I 
did a new search)
Length last unlock:  0:10:42

Signal status:  a r b n o

I am using the standard SRS active whip antenna about 7' above ground in 
the back yard.
Receiver firmware is 1.19

As time permits I will compare the Loran-C to the T'Bolt GPS/DO, with 
the Tracor 527E.

It is nice to have Loran-C signal to play with.
The Nantucket Loran-C station was a bout 40 miles away. Almost a Cs 
reference in my shack.


Stan, W1LE Cape CodFN41sr



XXXx

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Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C Reception on Cape Cod

[Don Henderickx]

On 3/20/2012 9:24 PM, Stan, W1LE wrote:
The Wildwood, NJ tech center could be part of the 9930 or the 9960 
chains.
It was only sporadically on. As testing dictated, not a normal 
operation site.


I have not listened to these GRIs.

I hope to configure to use the single antenna with multiple Loran-C 
receives.
Have to ponder that action Difficulty is that one receiver has to 
be dedicated to a single GRI.


89700 (microsecond GRI) is till coming in with Dana, IL as master and 
Seneca, NY as the X slave.


Stan, W1LECape Cod



On 3/20/2012 4:09 PM, Bill Riches wrote:

Seems that Cape May NJ is on also - is that part of the chain?

73, Bill WA2DVU





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If I am not mistaken Dana is not in Illinois it is in Indiana.
Still receiving at 2200 hrs local.
Don

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Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C Reception on Cape Cod

[paul swed]

Thanks Stan
I told the austron to use the master.
Suspect I would get a nice increase by using the secondary.
Will have to try that.

I built an active splitter some years ago to drive up to 6 rcvrs.
Essentially a single opamp gain stage then a opamp as a buffer for each
coax out. Simple dumb and works well. The gain stage simply makes up a spot
of gain for the 140' of coax to the shack and the splitting. Think it was a
gain of 2-3 as I recall. Did the same thing in the same case for WWVB
rcvrs. Lets me run them all if I want.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Stan, W1LE  wrote:

> The Wildwood, NJ tech center could be part of the 9930 or the 9960 chains.
> It was only sporadically on. As testing dictated, not a normal operation
> site.
>
> I have not listened to these GRIs.
>
> I hope to configure to use the single antenna with multiple Loran-C
> receives.
> Have to ponder that action Difficulty is that one receiver has to be
> dedicated to a single GRI.
>
> 89700 (microsecond GRI) is till coming in with Dana, IL as master and
> Seneca, NY as the X slave.
>
> Stan, W1LECape Cod
>
>
>
> On 3/20/2012 4:09 PM, Bill Riches wrote:
>
>> Seems that Cape May NJ is on also - is that part of the chain?
>>
>> 73, Bill WA2DVU
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C Reception on Cape Cod

[Stan, W1LE]

The Wildwood, NJ tech center could be part of the 9930 or the 9960 chains.
It was only sporadically on. As testing dictated, not a normal operation 
site.


I have not listened to these GRIs.

I hope to configure to use the single antenna with multiple Loran-C 
receives.
Have to ponder that action Difficulty is that one receiver has to be 
dedicated to a single GRI.


89700 (microsecond GRI) is till coming in with Dana, IL as master and 
Seneca, NY as the X slave.


Stan, W1LECape Cod



On 3/20/2012 4:09 PM, Bill Riches wrote:

Seems that Cape May NJ is on also - is that part of the chain?

73, Bill WA2DVU





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Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C Reception on Cape Cod

[Bill Riches]

Here is some info

http://www.loran-history.info/wildwood/eecen.htm

http://www.loran-history.info/dana/dana.htm

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Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 4:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C Reception on Cape Cod

Seems that Cape May NJ is on also - is that part of the chain?

73, Bill WA2DVU


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Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C Reception on Cape Cod

[Bill Riches]

Seems that Cape May NJ is on also - is that part of the chain?

73, Bill WA2DVU

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Behalf Of Stan, W1LE
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 10:45 AM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: [time-nuts] LORAN-C Reception on Cape Cod

Hello The Net: (especially the LORAN-C listeners)

Right now my SRS FS700 Loran-C receiver is locked onto a signal.

GRI 89700 microseconds   station: AUTO (M)
location: DANA, IL  USA

Receiver locked
Tracking Loran-C signal

Receiver gain: 77dB
Noise margin:  39 dB

Loran Freq offset:  -1.1E-10
Phase: -17.9 deg

Stations found: (ident: Amp in dB)
M59*   X56

Time since lock:   0:21:40  ( had lock overnight, but with an error so I 
did a new search)
Length last unlock:  0:10:42

Signal status:  a r b n o

I am using the standard SRS active whip antenna about 7' above ground in the
back yard.
Receiver firmware is 1.19

As time permits I will compare the Loran-C to the T'Bolt GPS/DO, with the
Tracor 527E.

It is nice to have Loran-C signal to play with.
The Nantucket Loran-C station was a bout 40 miles away. Almost a Cs
reference in my shack.


Stan, W1LE Cape CodFN41sr



XXXx

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Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C Reception on Cape Cod

[Don Henderickx]

On 3/20/2012 10:51 AM, J. Forster wrote:

Sometimes, it pays to just sit on your butt. I never took my Austron loop
down or the 2100F out of the rack.  :)))

-John

==
Alson have lockup of austron 2100R in northwest Illinois en42.

Don wa9ylp



Hail to the US institutions which first stopped LORAN action long enough
so that pricy but apparently useless equipment could enter the shacks of
European time nuts for peanuts. Hail to the US institutions for
reawakening LORAN so that is is there for you US based time nuts again.
The Tracor may be the better solution but  for a quick check the built in
phase comparator of the FS700 is more than adequate. My comparisons
between  my GPS based GPSDO and the FS700 (using the German Sylt chain)
show frequency differences<10E-12 over observation times of some hours or
so with the built in comparator.

73s and my congrats to LORAN
Ulrich, DF6JB

Am 20.03.2012 um 15:51 schrieb paul swed:


Stan good documentation
I also copied it last night and posted.
Your loss of lock is due to the fact that these guys don't seem to work
past 11pm.
The system is not on at all times.
At least thats what I am seeing.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL
Boston

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Stan, W1LE
wrote:


Hello The Net: (especially the LORAN-C listeners)

Right now my SRS FS700 Loran-C receiver is locked onto a signal.

GRI 89700 microseconds   station: AUTO (M)
location: DANA, IL  USA

Receiver locked
Tracking Loran-C signal

Receiver gain: 77dB
Noise margin:  39 dB

Loran Freq offset:  -1.1E-10
Phase: -17.9 deg

Stations found: (ident: Amp in dB)
M59*   X56

Time since lock:   0:21:40  ( had lock overnight, but with an error so
I
did a new search)
Length last unlock:  0:10:42

Signal status:  a r b n o

I am using the standard SRS active whip antenna about 7' above ground
in
the back yard.
Receiver firmware is 1.19

As time permits I will compare the Loran-C to the T'Bolt GPS/DO, with
the
Tracor 527E.

It is nice to have Loran-C signal to play with.
The Nantucket Loran-C station was a bout 40 miles away. Almost a Cs
reference in my shack.


Stan, W1LE Cape CodFN41sr



XXXx

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Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C Reception on Cape Cod

[J. Forster]

Sometimes, it pays to just sit on your butt. I never took my Austron loop
down or the 2100F out of the rack.  :)))

-John

==


> Hail to the US institutions which first stopped LORAN action long enough
> so that pricy but apparently useless equipment could enter the shacks of
> European time nuts for peanuts. Hail to the US institutions for
> reawakening LORAN so that is is there for you US based time nuts again.
> The Tracor may be the better solution but  for a quick check the built in
> phase comparator of the FS700 is more than adequate. My comparisons
> between  my GPS based GPSDO and the FS700 (using the German Sylt chain)
> show frequency differences <10E-12 over observation times of some hours or
> so with the built in comparator.
>
> 73s and my congrats to LORAN
> Ulrich, DF6JB
>
> Am 20.03.2012 um 15:51 schrieb paul swed:
>
>> Stan good documentation
>> I also copied it last night and posted.
>> Your loss of lock is due to the fact that these guys don't seem to work
>> past 11pm.
>> The system is not on at all times.
>> At least thats what I am seeing.
>> Regards
>> Paul
>> WB8TSL
>> Boston
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Stan, W1LE 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello The Net: (especially the LORAN-C listeners)
>>>
>>> Right now my SRS FS700 Loran-C receiver is locked onto a signal.
>>>
>>> GRI 89700 microseconds   station: AUTO (M)
>>> location: DANA, IL  USA
>>>
>>> Receiver locked
>>> Tracking Loran-C signal
>>>
>>> Receiver gain: 77dB
>>> Noise margin:  39 dB
>>>
>>> Loran Freq offset:  -1.1E-10
>>> Phase: -17.9 deg
>>>
>>> Stations found: (ident: Amp in dB)
>>> M59*   X56
>>>
>>> Time since lock:   0:21:40  ( had lock overnight, but with an error so
>>> I
>>> did a new search)
>>> Length last unlock:  0:10:42
>>>
>>> Signal status:  a r b n o
>>>
>>> I am using the standard SRS active whip antenna about 7' above ground
>>> in
>>> the back yard.
>>> Receiver firmware is 1.19
>>>
>>> As time permits I will compare the Loran-C to the T'Bolt GPS/DO, with
>>> the
>>> Tracor 527E.
>>>
>>> It is nice to have Loran-C signal to play with.
>>> The Nantucket Loran-C station was a bout 40 miles away. Almost a Cs
>>> reference in my shack.
>>>
>>>
>>> Stan, W1LE Cape CodFN41sr
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> XXXx
>>>
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Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C Reception on Cape Cod

[Ulrich Bangert]

Hail to the US institutions which first stopped LORAN action long enough so 
that pricy but apparently useless equipment could enter the shacks of European 
time nuts for peanuts. Hail to the US institutions for reawakening LORAN so 
that is is there for you US based time nuts again. The Tracor may be the better 
solution but  for a quick check the built in phase comparator of the FS700 is 
more than adequate. My comparisons between  my GPS based GPSDO and the FS700 
(using the German Sylt chain) show frequency differences <10E-12 over 
observation times of some hours or so with the built in comparator.

73s and my congrats to LORAN
Ulrich, DF6JB

Am 20.03.2012 um 15:51 schrieb paul swed:

> Stan good documentation
> I also copied it last night and posted.
> Your loss of lock is due to the fact that these guys don't seem to work
> past 11pm.
> The system is not on at all times.
> At least thats what I am seeing.
> Regards
> Paul
> WB8TSL
> Boston
> 
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Stan, W1LE  wrote:
> 
>> Hello The Net: (especially the LORAN-C listeners)
>> 
>> Right now my SRS FS700 Loran-C receiver is locked onto a signal.
>> 
>> GRI 89700 microseconds   station: AUTO (M)
>> location: DANA, IL  USA
>> 
>> Receiver locked
>> Tracking Loran-C signal
>> 
>> Receiver gain: 77dB
>> Noise margin:  39 dB
>> 
>> Loran Freq offset:  -1.1E-10
>> Phase: -17.9 deg
>> 
>> Stations found: (ident: Amp in dB)
>> M59*   X56
>> 
>> Time since lock:   0:21:40  ( had lock overnight, but with an error so I
>> did a new search)
>> Length last unlock:  0:10:42
>> 
>> Signal status:  a r b n o
>> 
>> I am using the standard SRS active whip antenna about 7' above ground in
>> the back yard.
>> Receiver firmware is 1.19
>> 
>> As time permits I will compare the Loran-C to the T'Bolt GPS/DO, with the
>> Tracor 527E.
>> 
>> It is nice to have Loran-C signal to play with.
>> The Nantucket Loran-C station was a bout 40 miles away. Almost a Cs
>> reference in my shack.
>> 
>> 
>> Stan, W1LE Cape CodFN41sr
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> XXXx
>> 
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Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C Reception on Cape Cod

[paul swed]

Stan good documentation
I also copied it last night and posted.
Your loss of lock is due to the fact that these guys don't seem to work
past 11pm.
The system is not on at all times.
At least thats what I am seeing.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL
Boston

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Stan, W1LE  wrote:

> Hello The Net: (especially the LORAN-C listeners)
>
> Right now my SRS FS700 Loran-C receiver is locked onto a signal.
>
> GRI 89700 microseconds   station: AUTO (M)
> location: DANA, IL  USA
>
> Receiver locked
> Tracking Loran-C signal
>
> Receiver gain: 77dB
> Noise margin:  39 dB
>
> Loran Freq offset:  -1.1E-10
> Phase: -17.9 deg
>
> Stations found: (ident: Amp in dB)
> M59*   X56
>
> Time since lock:   0:21:40  ( had lock overnight, but with an error so I
> did a new search)
> Length last unlock:  0:10:42
>
> Signal status:  a r b n o
>
> I am using the standard SRS active whip antenna about 7' above ground in
> the back yard.
> Receiver firmware is 1.19
>
> As time permits I will compare the Loran-C to the T'Bolt GPS/DO, with the
> Tracor 527E.
>
> It is nice to have Loran-C signal to play with.
> The Nantucket Loran-C station was a bout 40 miles away. Almost a Cs
> reference in my shack.
>
>
> Stan, W1LE Cape CodFN41sr
>
>
>
> XXXx
>
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