Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-17 Thread Attila Kinali
On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 15:06:19 -0600 x...@darksmile.net wrote: Question: What GPS timing module should I go with? No more Motorola Oncore so what's best right now? Who sell modules? What are the price ranges? I would go for the LEA modules. For once because you get pretty complete

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-17 Thread Chris Albertson
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 7:03 PM, x...@darksmile.net wrote: The miniITX mobos are quite impressive. There is no argument there. However, My simple idea was this: Since I want to keep time at 3 separate locations and wanted stratum 1 NTP, I didn't want overkill. What is your accuracy

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-17 Thread Tom Van Baak
Question: What GPS timing module should I go with? No more Motorola Oncore so what's best right now? Who sell modules? What are the price ranges? Your comments are most welcome. -George, N2FGX Hi George, Welcome back to the list; you've been quiet for a long time. This sounds like a

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-17 Thread Attila Kinali
Moin, On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 11:42:06 -0700 Tom Van Baak t...@leapsecond.com wrote: A new LEA6-T single piece cost IIRC 190EUR from the webshop. A LEA5-T was IIRC half price. And a little caution: the LEA5 modules use considerably more power during aquisition than the LEA4 did and the

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-17 Thread xaos
Tom, Thank you and nice to be back! Was working major hours for a while. Workin' for a living :) Now, I must confess that this project is sort of a milestone for me. Those who hate kids (I know you are out there !) can stop reading now :) My daughter, who just turned six, has been very

[time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread xaos
Hello everyone, I started a new project for myself where I would use the RasperryPi Linux board as a NTP server. My goal is to design a custom board for the Pi and mount a GPS receiver on it. With this combination, I should be able to configure NTP for the Pi and thus have the Pi act as

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread Azelio Boriani
uBlox LEA-5T, LEA6-T? SkyTraq Venus5? On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 11:06 PM, x...@darksmile.net wrote: Hello everyone, I started a new project for myself where I would use the RasperryPi Linux board as a NTP server. My goal is to design a custom board for the Pi and mount a GPS receiver on

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread Davis, Zach
/ -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of x...@darksmile.net Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 4:06 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers Hello everyone

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread Michael Tharp
On 10/16/2012 05:06 PM, x...@darksmile.net wrote: My goal is to design a custom board for the Pi and mount a GPS receiver on it. With this combination, I should be able to configure NTP for the Pi and thus have the Pi act as a Stratum 1 NTP server. The new RasberryPI has 512MB memory so it

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread xaos
Michael, Thank you for your most valuable information. This is why time-nuts is so amazing! My goal is actually two-fold. First, I would like to have a NTP server that I can easily hook up (well, as easily as possible) without dedicating a Linux server each time. My personal use would require

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread k6rtm
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[time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread sh...@impsec.net
Michael Tharp g...@partiallystapled.com wrote [RE: raspberry pi ntp server] It's not a terrible idea, but the RPI has a USB ethernet transceiver so in addition to the latency/jitter of the ethernet it also has the latency/jitter of the USB. I've been playing with a pair of Raspberry Pi ntp

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread xaos
Annoyance with small Linux boards: My single biggest annoyance is that all the I/O connectors are coming out from all 4 directions. What I mean is this: It would be nice to have ethernet+LEDs+USB+VGA(HDMI) come out from one side, and Power/I/O/RS232 from the opposite side. This way if I make

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread Michael Tharp
On 10/16/2012 06:28 PM, sh...@impsec.net wrote: I'm a junior time-nut at best but it looks to me like jitter from the USB Ethernet is acceptably low, based on ntpq -p anyway: It's a minor problem at worst. There are many worse conflating factors and NTP adjusts very slowly anyway to deal with

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread Chris Albertson
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 3:26 PM, x...@darksmile.net wrote: Michael, Thank you for your most valuable information. This is why time-nuts is so amazing! My goal is actually two-fold. First, I would like to have a NTP server that I can easily hook up (well, as easily as possible) without

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread Hal Murray
One does NOT need a dedicated server for NTP. NTP can run on a linux system that is also a web and mail server or on e linux desktop system that you use for web surfing and web browse ring, just as long as the box stays running and you don't turn it off. It's been discussed before, but

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread Joseph Gray
Coincidentally, I just ordered a R-Pi yesterday. I have other potential uses for it, not NTP. If you are not in a hurry, it is possible to find the Soekris boards on ebay for a decent price. I got one last year, in a case, for $50. Joe Gray W5JG ___

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread Chris Albertson
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: One does NOT need a dedicated server for NTP. NTP can run on a linux system that is also a web and mail server or on e linux desktop system that you use for web surfing and web browse ring, just as long as the box

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread Hal Murray
Question: What GPS timing module should I go with? No more Motorola Oncore so what's best right now? Who sell modules? What are the price ranges? One option would be just a DE-9 connector with power on pin ??? (I forget). You may need inverters and/or level shifters on Rx and Tx. That

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread xaos
The miniITX mobos are quite impressive. There is no argument there. However, My simple idea was this: Since I want to keep time at 3 separate locations and wanted stratum 1 NTP, I didn't want overkill. Actually my reason for 3 different locations is simple: Internet is flakey some places and

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread xaos
Err... I meant packs of cigarettes NOT cartons :) Quoting x...@darksmile.net: The miniITX mobos are quite impressive. There is no argument there. However, My simple idea was this: Since I want to keep time at 3 separate locations and wanted stratum 1 NTP, I didn't want overkill. Actually my

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread bownes
By the way, you need not use a USB serial adapter. Several folks are doing PPS on the gpio pins. Take a look here https://github.com/davidk/adafruit-raspberrypi-linux-pps And here http://www.frambozenbier.org/index.php/raspi-community-news/4439-george-lu-on-ntp-pps On Oct 16, 2012, at

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread David J Taylor
Hello everyone, I started a new project for myself where I would use the RasperryPi Linux board as a NTP server. [] Question: What GPS timing module should I go with? No more Motorola Oncore so what's best right now? Who sell modules? What are the price ranges? Your comments are most