Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz OCXO recommendations

2014-11-12 Thread Mark Spencer
Sorry a few more points to mention. If for some reason I am particularly concerned about the stability of an OCXO reference I will compare it to another OCXO and on occasion to a GPSDO as well while measuring a Device Under Test. This gives me some comfort that if am looking at the

Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz OCXO recommendations

2014-11-12 Thread Neil Schroeder
Just to add a note on the original question : there are some brand new never used Vectron 8091s available for a reasonable price now and it's drift and jitter have been on par with my Wenzel. I am not yet set up to measure it's phase noise or other general rf characteristics but according to

Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz OCXO recommendations

2014-11-11 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Joe It is not clear to me what your goal is. Simplicity, cost or performance. A PLL based on 1 pps is not optimum. I call this approach GPSPLL versus GPSDO. Thanks to work done by Karen in Moscow I found out that you can program a $14 ublox M7 to frequencies above 1 KHz. If you use 200 KHz

Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz OCXO recommendations

2014-11-11 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Ok, let’s back off a bit. If 0.2 ppm over a narrow range is the objective, that sounds like a TCXO application. If you really are only after the 14.4 MHz, that’s the quick / easy way to go. Everything running on 3.3V, total current may be below 10 ma. Far fewer parts involved. A lot

Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz OCXO recommendations

2014-11-11 Thread Joseph Gray
If 0.2 ppm over a narrow range is the objective, that sounds like a TCXO application. Please point me to such a TCXO at 14.4 MHz that is affordable. Joe Gray W5JG ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz OCXO recommendations

2014-11-11 Thread Mark Spencer
Hi I have not had much luck with ocxo's sourced from the usual auction site. By far and away the best value for money for me has been found in some packaged frequency standards containing OCXO's and a non auction site purchase of a BVA OCXO. I find the concept of occasionally adjusting a

Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz OCXO recommendations

2014-11-11 Thread John Marvin
Connor-Winfield has a line of TCXO's with 0.1 ppm stability that can be bought from Digi-Key in single unit quantities for about $25. Search for M100F. They don't have a 14.4 Mhz, but they do have 10.0 Mhz, which you indicated could also work for you. Regards, John AC0ZG On 11/11/2014

Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz OCXO recommendations

2014-11-11 Thread Bob Camp
Hi This is one of several that come up when I do a search at Mouser: http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/ABRACON/ASVTX11-14400MHZ-T/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMsBj6bBr9Q9aTQ72VsxIq1y8x3GpFIJ334%3d That’s the link, to the full reel. At one piece they are $5.89 each. Temperature spec is +/- 2.5 ppm over -30

Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz OCXO recommendations

2014-11-11 Thread Charles Steinmetz
Mark wrote: I find the concept of occasionally adjusting a good OCXO which in turn is used as a reference works well for me.I have some that haven't needed adjustment for over 2 years (they are still well within one part per billion of being on frequency.) A few of us have advocated

Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz OCXO recommendations

2014-11-11 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The only gotcha is accuracy. If that is part of the equation, then even a pretty dumpy OCXO properly GPSDO’d will beat one that is a very good OCXO indeed. A darn good OCXO will age down in the 1x10^-11 per day range. In a bit over 10 days you may be past +/- 1x10^-10. An OCXO based

[time-nuts] 10 MHz OCXO recommendations

2014-11-10 Thread Joseph Gray
From the current crop of ebay OCXO's available, what have you actually used that you would recommend for the following? Sine output, either 5V or 12V, better than 0.2ppm stability after warmup. I plan on putting things in a sealed box, so there shouldn't be too wide a temperature fluctuation.

Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz OCXO recommendations

2014-11-10 Thread Hal Murray
jg...@zianet.com said: I want to use it as a standalone reference to PLL a 14.4 MHz VCXO. With the right divisors, I can get both the 10 MHz (/10/10) and the 14.4 MHz (/16/9) down to 100 KHz. You can run at 400 KHz by dividing by 5/5 and 4/9. I could use a GPSDO, but that means needing a

Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz OCXO recommendations

2014-11-10 Thread Joseph Gray
You can run at 400 KHz by dividing by 5/5 and 4/9. True. Either will work. You said 0.2ppm stability. What do you need for accuracy and/or how are you going to calibrate your setup? I will initially calibrate the OXCO against my HP GPSDO. Idealy, it will only need checking against the GPSDO