Re: [time-nuts] 1903 Railroad self-Winding / Self-setting Clock: rapid clicking

2014-11-02 Thread paul swed
Pretty funny. As a ham radio operator I have had 4 clocks on the walls for years. I obtained 5 IBM clocks quite a while ago and built drivers and such for them. Actually ran them for a while but found the noise annoying. Replaced them with cheap wall clocks internal drivers removed and a master sys

Re: [time-nuts] 1903 Railroad self-Winding / Self-setting Clock: rapid clicking

2014-11-02 Thread Mitchell Janoff
The rapid clicking of slave clocks in schools was a design feature of IBM (and later Simplex) clocks. The master clock sent out minute pulses to the slave clocks for the first 50 minutes of each hour on the "A" side of the circuit. Slave clocks operating on-time would automatically switch to the

Re: [time-nuts] 1903 Railroad self-Winding / Self-setting Clock

2014-11-01 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Hal: I think there were a number of slave clock systems and some of them could do DST/ST changes and/or catch up from a power failure. That very well might have been what you heard. To me the winding sounds like a muffled air compressor. The setting sounds like Thunk. Mail_Attachment -- Ha

Re: [time-nuts] 1903 Railroad self-Winding / Self-setting Clock

2014-11-01 Thread Hal Murray
bro...@pacific.net said: > The click-click-click... is the self winding. A solenoid vibrates back and > forth and a pawl and ratchet winds the main spring. I don't think that's what I was referring to. It was a long time ago so my memory may be buggy. The click-click-click... that I remembe

Re: [time-nuts] 1903 Railroad self-Winding / Self-setting Clock

2014-11-01 Thread Bob Stewart
ber 1, 2014 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 1903 Railroad self-Winding / Self-setting Clock Hi Hal: The click-click-click... is the self winding.  A solenoid vibrates back and forth and a pawl and ratchet winds the main spring. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIxOVo_0xgo&feature

Re: [time-nuts] 1903 Railroad self-Winding / Self-setting Clock

2014-11-01 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Hal: The click-click-click... is the self winding. A solenoid vibrates back and forth and a pawl and ratchet winds the main spring. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIxOVo_0xgo&feature=youtu.be Mail_Attachment -- Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com http://www.end2partygovernment.co

Re: [time-nuts] 1903 Railroad self-Winding / Self-setting Clock

2014-11-01 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Mike: The hourly synchronization 1 second wide pulse turns on a second prior to the top of the hour and off at the top. But . . . . it's not a low voltage pulse, but rather each clock is in a series loop where the external resistance is more than an order of magnitude higher than the intern

Re: [time-nuts] 1903 Railroad self-Winding / Self-setting Clock

2014-11-01 Thread Bill Riches
Book info amazon http://www.amazon.com/American-Clocks-Volume-Special-Self-Winding/dp/0930163 443/ref=sr_1_sc_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1414869823&sr=8-3-spell&keywords=american+cloc ks+tran+duyly 73, Bill, WA2DVU Bill I responded to Mike there seems to be a number of threads running on this. So in fact y

[time-nuts] 1903 Railroad self-Winding / Self-setting Clock

2014-11-01 Thread Bruce Hunter via time-nuts
The Western Union clocks used in broadcasting up through the middle 70's were designed to be corrected through one-second current pulses over a standard 60 mA teletype loop. The clocks were wired in series like the old series Christmas-tree bulbs. Internally, the clocks employed two 1-1/2 V

Re: [time-nuts] 1903 Railroad self-Winding / Self-setting Clock

2014-11-01 Thread paul swed
Bill I responded to Mike there seems to be a number of threads running on this. So in fact you do have the telegraph coil in the clock. Makes sense to me. Thats why the 100 V they needed to drive 10-20 ma through the coil over distance and had to account for line loss. The boook you mention. Online

Re: [time-nuts] 1903 Railroad self-Winding / Self-setting Clock

2014-11-01 Thread paul swed
It certainly depends on your comfort with any particular technology. Be it discrete ICs or microprocessors what you ask for is indeed trivial to do. The hardest part may be building the pulse driver and thats not really hard. The telegraphs should have been a higher voltage to drive a 10-20 ma curr

Re: [time-nuts] 1903 Railroad self-Winding / Self-setting Clock

2014-11-01 Thread Bill Riches
I have the wall mounted version. I believe that the hour adjust solenoid took 100 volts or so. I will check my manual on the clock. At a minute before the top of the hour until a minute after the hour all traffic would stop on the WU lines and at the top of the hour a 100 v dc pulse came over the

Re: [time-nuts] 1903 Railroad self-Winding / Self-setting Clock (Bob Camp)

2014-11-01 Thread Mitchell Janoff
ing one of > these units I had modified but at the time there wasn't a single person > who was interested. I have been using the RFTG-u REF1 since then and > it is a nice unit. The modifications I added (including a power supply > -see photo) allows the lights to cycle through their n

Re: [time-nuts] 1903 Railroad self-Winding / Self-setting Clock

2014-11-01 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The “easy way” is probably to take a GPS module and get the time out of that. There’s not a big need for a GPSDO in this case. The modules cost < $20 and run on very little power. Mate the module up with your processor du-jour and let it figure out when the top of the hour is. There are a

Re: [time-nuts] 1903 Railroad self-Winding / Self-setting Clock

2014-11-01 Thread Hal Murray
We had something like that in school when I was a kid. (many years ago) I remember occasional click-click-click... as it got reset. mp...@clanbaker.org said: > I am wondering what the easiest approach to this might be?I suppose I > could take the 1-sec pulses from a GPSDO (Trimble Thunderb

[time-nuts] 1903 Railroad self-Winding / Self-setting Clock

2014-10-31 Thread Mike Baker
Hello, Time-Nutters-- A friend has a vintage oak-cabinet pendulum movement clock made by The Self Winding Clock Company some time around 1903. The company was formed in 1886. By the early 1900's era, this clock was known for its relative accuracy. These clocks were pendulum controlled and powe