Re: [time-nuts] Be aware of test equipment seller orzel-enterprises oneBay

2012-09-11 Thread jim s
A friend has been off Ebay because he was nearly beside himself after doing the same as you specify here for a beautiful Burroughs glass sided calculator. It arrived in an manner nearly identical to the one in David's package. The vendor claimed no liability to do what he took money for and

Re: [time-nuts] Be aware of test equipment seller orzel-enterprises oneBay

2012-09-11 Thread David Kirkby
On 11 September 2012 12:29, jim s j...@jwsss.com wrote: A friend has been off Ebay because he was nearly beside himself after doing the same as you specify here for a beautiful Burroughs glass sided calculator. It arrived in an manner nearly identical to the one in David's package. The

Re: [time-nuts] Be aware of test equipment seller orzel-enterprises oneBay

2012-09-11 Thread Gregory Muir
After experiencing UPS issues, I now specify Fed-X where possible. The outside condition of the containers even look better when delivered. These people seem to care more about what they are doing. I once had a large ~150 lb low-pass RF filter that arrived by Fed-X freight that was delivered

Re: [time-nuts] Be aware of test equipment seller orzel-enterprises oneBay

2012-09-11 Thread Peter Gottlieb
I've had FedEx destroy packages. One was so bad the driver told me he didn't even want to accept it at loading but thought I should see it before sending it back. The seller told me they gave him a really hard time and wanted to deny any responsibility as he had packaged using a

Re: [time-nuts] Be aware of test equipment seller orzel-enterprises oneBay

2012-09-11 Thread lists
: Peter Gottlieb n...@verizon.net Sender: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 11:02:15 To: time-nuts@febo.com Reply-To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Be aware of test equipment seller orzel-enterprises oneBay

Re: [time-nuts] Be aware of test equipment seller orzel-enterprises oneBay

2012-09-11 Thread Tom Knox
FedEx is great compared to UPS in Boulder. UPS boxes are usually crushed and beat up, FedEx the boxes are almost always pristine. Thomas Knox Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 11:02:15 -0500 From: n...@verizon.net To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Be aware of test equipment seller

Re: [time-nuts] Be aware of test equipment seller orzel-enterprises oneBay

2012-09-11 Thread Paul Flinders
On 11/09/2012 13:17, David Kirkby wrote: If a buyer changes his mind, he will usually have to pay shipping both ways. I say usually, because under the Distance Seller Regulations in the UK, if an individual (non-business) buys an item at a fixed price from a business, and they get it and don't

Re: [time-nuts] Be aware of test equipment seller orzel-enterprises oneBay

2012-09-11 Thread Don Latham
Two things about this. First, needs to be clearly stated that buyer pays for return shipping. I've seen this stated. Second, I note that of late, sellers are padding the hell out of the sales through excessive, even in some cases grotesque, shipping costs. They're bf high enough as it is... Don

Re: [time-nuts] Be aware of test equipment seller orzel-enterprises oneBay

2012-09-11 Thread lists
Ebay fees don't reflect shipping cost, so the seller makes more money by inflating the shipping price, even if it reduces the final sales price. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Be aware of test equipment seller orzel-enterprises oneBay

2012-09-11 Thread J. Forster
Shipping is not cheap. It is not the seller's fault. If you think the shipping charges are out of line, report the item. I've done that. I've seen stuff offered for $0.01 + $80 shipping. -John = Two things about this. First, needs to be clearly stated that buyer pays for return

Re: [time-nuts] Be aware of test equipment seller orzel-enterprises oneBay

2012-09-11 Thread jim s
On 9/11/2012 8:37 AM, Gregory Muir wrote: If you have a chance, you should visit one of the UPS shipping test labs where customers are supposed to take their prototype packaging to have it tested to see if it will stand up to the rigors of UPS shipping. Your jaw will drop when you see what

Re: [time-nuts] Be aware of test equipment seller orzel-enterprises oneBay

2012-09-11 Thread David Kirkby
On 11 September 2012 21:32, Don Latham d...@montana.com wrote: Two things about this. First, needs to be clearly stated that buyer pays for return shipping. I've seen this stated. Second, I note that of late, sellers are padding the hell out of the sales through excessive, even in some cases

Re: [time-nuts] Be aware of test equipment seller orzel-enterprises oneBay

2012-09-11 Thread Peter Gottlieb
It all works in UPS's favor. Larger, more robust packaging adds to weight and dimensional charges. The incentives are all there for them to be as rough as they can get away with. Why take extra care and go slower when you just blame the customer, and win by getting more money in

Re: [time-nuts] Be aware of test equipment seller orzel-enterprises oneBay

2012-09-10 Thread Tom Miller
measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 6:16 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Be aware of test equipment seller orzel-enterprises oneBay I hope the list admin does not mind this email, but I think it will be useful to any time nut buying test equipment from eBay. orzel

Re: [time-nuts] Be aware of test equipment seller orzel-enterprises oneBay

2012-09-10 Thread David Kirkby
of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 6:16 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Be aware of test equipment seller orzel-enterprises oneBay I hope the list admin does not mind this email, but I think it will be useful to any time nut buying test

Re: [time-nuts] Be aware of test equipment seller orzel-enterprises oneBay

2012-09-10 Thread lists
measurementtime-nuts@febo.com Reply-To: Tom Miller tmil...@skylinenet.net, Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Be aware of test equipment seller orzel-enterprises oneBay For me, the link does not work. About a month ago I

Re: [time-nuts] Be aware of test equipment seller orzel-enterprises oneBay

2012-09-10 Thread Jerry
time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Be aware of test equipment seller orzel-enterprises oneBay Items can swim through peanuts. You can put the peanuts in bags so the items in the box don't reach the outside. -Original Message- From: Tom Miller tmil...@skylinenet.net